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2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:16 PM Oct 2015

Well, if this isn't strong evidence of the demise

of the biosphere...

Mind-blowing” die off of seabirds underway from California to Alaska — Experts: “This is unprecedented…

Experts: “This is unprecedented… Worst I’ve ever seen… Why they’re dying, I’m still baffled” — “Every bird we’re seeing is starving to death… Basically withering away” — “Catastrophic molting” due to unknown cause (VIDEO)

http://tribelive.ning.com/forum/mind-blowing-die-off-of-seabirds-underway-from-california-to-alas






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Well, if this isn't strong evidence of the demise (Original Post) 2naSalit Oct 2015 OP
What's to be baffled about? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #1
I agree 2naSalit Oct 2015 #3
I live a ten minute walk from the largest fresh water lake in Calif. truedelphi Oct 2015 #9
We are So- ruffburr Oct 2015 #2
Indeed. 2naSalit Oct 2015 #4
Unfortunately, there's no 'out' to which to get. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #5
My guess would be radiation Gman Oct 2015 #6
I am pretty confident 2naSalit Oct 2015 #13
Rescue center overwhelmed with starving seabirds; rising ocean temperatures (El Niño) cited OKIsItJustMe Oct 2015 #7
Pacific Ocean is “Turning Into a Desert” Newest Reality Oct 2015 #8
Kicked and recommended! The canary in the coal mine, so to speak. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #10
Our whole world seems to be the coal mine these days... k&r, nt appal_jack Oct 2015 #14
No Words cantbeserious Oct 2015 #11
Biospheric Bird Decline Since 1970. Following means that many many birds have disappeared. DhhD Oct 2015 #12

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. What's to be baffled about?
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:25 PM
Oct 2015

The food chain is falling apart, from top to bottom. Starving polar bears, dying seals, starving birds, overfished and collapsed fisheries, corals bleaching and dying, microfauna whose shells are literally dissolving in a more acidic ocean.

Get the DNA sequenced now, and maybe in some future, if we still have one, we might be able to bring species back into existence, if we can ever reverse the damage we've done. We're in the next extinction event already.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
3. I agree
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:34 PM
Oct 2015

with you. I posted this in order to call attention to the dye-off mostly. I find the "baffled" claim to be spurious at best but I am also aware that many scientists are either bought off or silenced and when they do speak up, their voice is heavily guarded (self censoring) or misquoted.

But it is worth it to get others to notice that this is already happening. I don't hold much hope for our species, unfortunately, we seem to be hell-bent on taking every other species out with us when ours crashes.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
9. I live a ten minute walk from the largest fresh water lake in Calif.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 09:16 PM
Oct 2015

Over the last two weeks (it could be longer than that - I was evacuated during one of the fires and didn't follow any environmental crisis matters while evacuated) thousands of fish have died off. According to the local news, experts are baffled at the die off.

This is terrible as the local environment is dependent on the fish. So many different kinds of birds that need the fish for food.

I just came in from my afternoon walk around 2 hours ago. The bird population was totally quiet - extremely odd during a pleasant fall day with cool temps when birds should be abundant.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
2. We are So-
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:29 PM
Oct 2015

Past the tipping point that it reminds me of the movie 2012, When Cusak says "when they say it's in control don't panic, Get the Hell out" , Look around you, Drought, Floods, unprecedented storms, and More to come, But what the hell be like an Ostrich and stick your head in the sand, Or wherever works for you, Vote republican and destroy the planet.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
5. Unfortunately, there's no 'out' to which to get.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:37 PM
Oct 2015

The wealthy are blinded by their belief that their money will somehow save them while the rest of the world is dying around them. So they just keep doing everything they can to exploit the environment for further money, shrugging off the damage they do in the name of greed.

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
13. I am pretty confident
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 12:45 AM
Oct 2015

that would be a factor in this issue among others but I would give that a good portion of weight. It's one of the things I have been watching for as I suspected we would be seeing some major impacts from day one. You don't have a major event with all the components of concern without a major impact on the natural environment and given that there are still thousands of gallons of contaminant still spilling into the ocean all these years later... not to mention the trash island in the middle of the Pacific. As with a trophic cascade where all components are interdependent, so will a disastrous event of that magnitude impact every component of a nature-scape eventually, I think that is what we are seeing here even though the governments don't dare to admit it. Just because governments want us to think there was nothing to it doesn't mean they are correct. That oh-so-common refrain of, "Nothing to see here, move along." Sadly there are too many willing to be comforted by the refrain because they might have to change their routines and actually think about unpleasant things... and the endless distractions from reality which so many try to make their reality. When it all crashes there will be some totally shocked clueless millions frantically looking for iphone answers... I wonder if they'll notice the actual train wreck as it bears down on them.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
7. Rescue center overwhelmed with starving seabirds; rising ocean temperatures (El Niño) cited
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 08:46 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/environment/article36338667.html
[font face=Serif]September 24, 2015
[font size=5] Rescue center overwhelmed with starving seabirds; rising ocean temperatures cited [/font]
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  • El Niño-triggered sea temperature rise may be affecting food supply of seabirds
  • Young birds most affected because they struggle to dive deeper for food
  • Fairfield rescue center has seen 25 times more common murres than normal this past month
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By Edward Ortiz
[email protected]

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It’s not yet known why so many more birds are appearing, but scientists say warmer El Niño conditions in the Pacific Ocean may be to blame.

Warmer sea temperatures off the West Coast – up to 10 degrees warmer in some southern regions – are not likely to abate anytime soon, said Nate Mantua, research scientist with the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration.

“Marine life is going to be really stressed for at least another six or seven months along the Pacific coast,” said Mantua.

Kyra Mills-Parker, deputy director for the Oiled Wildlife Care Network at UC Davis, said the slackening of trade winds, which is an effect of El Niño, decreases nutrient flow into the upper layers of the ocean. As a result, the birds must dive deeper to catch food, she said.

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http://blog.bird-rescue.org/index.php/2015/10/murre-cy-thats-a-lot-of-murres/
[font face=Serif]October 17, 2015
[font size=5]Murre-cy! That’s A Lot Of Murres![/font]

[font size=4]How many hungry, sick Common Murres have poured into our Northern California center over the last 3+ months? A lot!

Since July 1st a total of 439 Murres have been delivered to our clinic. In October alone we’ve received 95 new patients. Usually this time of the year we receive about 10 of this species each month.

From Monterey to Mendocino the struggling seabirds have been transferred to Bird Rescue’s San Francisco Bay Center. The center has deep above ground pools (pelagic pools) to help the affected Murres swim, eat and gain their strength back.

The starving seabirds has raised red flags among ocean scientists. They believe that as waters warm along the California coast, some diving birds are starving as fish go deeper to reach cooler waters, putting themselves out of the birds’ reach. This past summer Northern California coastal waters have warmed 5 to 10 degrees above historical averages.

Similar strandings with Murres and other pelagic seabirds have been reported from Oregon north to Alaska.

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DhhD

(4,695 posts)
12. Biospheric Bird Decline Since 1970. Following means that many many birds have disappeared.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 10:25 PM
Oct 2015
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/11/1105_021105_BirdDecline.html


Quarter of U.S. Birds in Decline, Says Audubon
John Pickrell
for National Geographic News
November 5, 2002
A quarter of all bird species in the United States have declined in population since the 1970s, according to a report issued by the National Audubon Society.

Of more than 800 native U.S. bird species, 201 are included on the group's Watchlist 2000.

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In a population trend representative of many Hawaiian birds, the report says the akikiki (Oreomystis bairdi), a type of honey creeper on the island of Kauai, has declined from about 7,000 in the 1970s to fewer than 1,000 today.
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