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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:58 PM Jun 2014

Scientists vindicate 'Limits to Growth' – urge investment in 'circular economy'

Scientists vindicate 'Limits to Growth' – urge investment in 'circular economy'

According to a new peer-reviewed scientific report, industrial civilisation is likely to deplete its low-cost mineral resources within the next century, with debilitating impacts for the global economy and key infrastructures within the coming decade.

The study, the 33rd report to the Club of Rome, is authored by Prof Ugo Bardi of the University of Florence's Earth Sciences Department, and includes contributions from a wide range of senior scientists across relevant disciplines.

A fundamental reorganisation of the way societies produce, manage and consume resources could support a new high-technology civilisation, but this would entail a new "circular economy" premised on wide-scale practices of recycling across production and consumption chains, a wholesale shift to renewable energy, application of agro-ecological methods to food production, and with all that, very different types of social structures.

Such a shift will indeed happen. After the collapse is underway.

Or as my wife says, "SHIT ~~~~> SHTF ~~~~> SHIFT"
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Scientists vindicate 'Limits to Growth' – urge investment in 'circular economy' (Original Post) GliderGuider Jun 2014 OP
Today's garbage dumps are tomorrow's mines. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #1
Are scavenger economies sustainable? GliderGuider Jun 2014 #5
Really no choice in the long run. FiveGoodMen Jun 2014 #6
Agreed. nt GliderGuider Jun 2014 #7
Is the title supportable? FBaggins Jun 2014 #2
it's simple math- TimeToEvolve Jun 2014 #3
Yep, Albert showed us the key. nt GliderGuider Jun 2014 #4

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Today's garbage dumps are tomorrow's mines.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

As long as the technology to separate and purify elemental resources can be economically applied.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
5. Are scavenger economies sustainable?
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jun 2014

I have my doubts - especially if a growth imperative is still operational.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
6. Really no choice in the long run.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:24 PM
Jun 2014

The earth isn't getting bigger.

The land for agriculture isn't increasing (or if it is, it won't be for long -- there's only so much land).

New water isn't appearing out of nowhere and oil certainly isn't either.

You can disguise things with inflation, but it's just an optical illusion. There's only so much habitable space. There's only so much stuff.

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
2. Is the title supportable?
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

It sure reads as though some independent group of qualified experts studied someone else's theory and proved that it was accurate.

Instead... it appears that the Club of Rome is putting out yet another in a long series of repeated claims.

That's really not the same thing as "vindication".

TimeToEvolve

(303 posts)
3. it's simple math-
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:49 PM
Jun 2014


here is a lecture by the late Professor Albert Bartlett about Exponential growth and how it applies to our resource and environmental crises.

i've posted this before, but here it is again, it's over an hour in length but it is very substantial.
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