Water Powered Car Unveiled: Yes It's Real

[DeSwiss]

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October 19, 2013



Everyday the world becomes aware of technologies that have the potential to halt the unnecessary damage we continue to create using fossil fuels. We’ve been talking about it for years, transitioning our way of life to be more harmonious with the planet and its natural systems. I’m not talking about solar or wind power (although great), I’m talking about clean and green technology that render fossil fuel burning technologies inferior and obsolete.

One of these “new” technologies is a water fuelled car, and it has been unveiled on a number of occasions. It’s an automobile that derives its energy directly from water, and water alone. It is not hard to see why it’s not available to the masses. An engine powered by water would wipe out a large chunk of the fossil fuel industry and change the way these companies do business all together. The oil and gas corporations combine to bring in trillions of dollars every year. Inventions like these are a direct threat to the industry.

JAPANESE COMPANY UNVEILS WATER POWERED CAR


A Japanese company called Genepax unveiled their water powered car in 2008 in Osaka, Japan (1). It doesn’t matter if it’s tap, bottled, or lake water, anything type of water can make this car run. An energy generator splits the water molecules to produce hydrogen and this is used to power the car. They use a membrane electrode assembly (MEA) to split the Hydrogen from the Oxygen through a chemical reaction. The cell needs only water and air, eliminating the need for a hydrogen reformer and high pressure hydrogen tank.

This isn’t a conspiracy! The reality of this device has been verified by patent offices all over the world. To search a Japanese patent, you have to go through the Industrial Property Digital Library (IPDL). This organization makes patents available to the intellectual property department of the Japan Patent Office. The IDPL provides over 60 million documents and their relevant information as published since the end of the 19th century. The fact that these are even published for patent pending says a lot.

Click HERE to view the water energy system patent. You can also visit the Industrial Property Digital Library itself, do a “PAJ” search. Type in the publication number **2006-244714**. Documents are also on file with the European Patent Office, you can view them HERE. Reuters also did a brief report on the vehicle as you can see in the video below.

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[VanillaRhapsody]

1. So if it turns water to hydrogen...doesn't that use up the water?

wouldn't that be an even bigger problem later on?

[longship]

3. Yup! It violates the laws of thermodynamics.

It takes more energy to hydrolyze the water than one gets back by burning the hydrogen.

So if that's all they're doing, it won't work. Something screwy with their claims, or the reporting here.

[Xipe Totec]

2. Utter bullshit. nt

[MannyGoldstein]

4. Things don't have to actually work to be patented

They have to be new and non-obvious. Nothing that says they need to function.

[Marie Marie]

5. If this is true, how long before we are all watching the new documentary,

Who Killed The Water Car? (Spoiler Alert: Big Oil)

[Not Sure]

8. LOL

[PamW]

6. It's a FRAUD!!!

This is a scientific FRAUD and the people that don't realize it just flat out don't know their high school chemistry.

There's NO ENERGY in water. Water is the oxide of hydrogen, the byproduct of hydrogen combustion; it is "hydrogen ash".

Suppose I told you I had a car that could run on "wood ash"; the same stuff you clean out of your fireplace.

If you ask me how it works, I tell you that you take the wood ash and reverse the process to get wood, and then you burn the wood to make heat, which powers a heat engine; and you get motion.

The problem is that stage where you convert the wood ash back into wood. Under the laws of Physics; the ONLY way to do that is to put back the energy you got when you burned the wood.

That's the FLAW in the above FRAUD, the part where they say a generator converts the water back into hydrogen and oxygen. In order to do that, you need ENERGY!! If you have the energy to convert water into hydrogen and oxygen; why not just use that energy to power the car?

Why go through a process of using energy to convert water to hydrogen and oxygen and then burning the hydrogen and oxygen? That process CAN NOT be 100% efficient by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics; so you are going to throw away some of your energy in inefficiency.

If you have the energy to do the water to hydrogen / oxygen conversion; then just USE IT.

This isn't even a new FRAUD; it's an old one. I'll tell you how it works. It's been tried before. What has been done in the past is use hot zirconium to combine with water and give you burnable hydrogen. ( That's where the hydrogen that caused the Fukushima explosions came from. ) However, what you are doing isn't burning water as is the claim; in terms of chemistry, you are burning the zirconium. The real fuel is not the water, it is zirconium. If we converted our cars to burn zirconium, then the world's supply of zirconium could run our cars for a couple weeks. It's not a viable idea.

Let me second what Manny says above about patents. The issuance of a patent is NO GUARANTEE that the idea works or is worthwhile. All the patent office does is make sure that the patent holder is the first to come up with the idea. The patent office doesn't review the patent to ensure that it works. In fact, one of the ways to detect a charlatan that is attempting to perpetrate a fraud, is to have someone that is claiming that the issuance of a patent is a guarantee that the idea works. The patent office does no such thing. When someone tells you that it does; grab onto your wallet, and RUN away.

The good thing about science is that it is true, whether or not you believe in it.
--Neil deGrasse Tyson

PamW

[oldhippie]

9. Thanks for that great explanation, Pam .....

That was good. It even made me think a little, and I understand the chemistry. Water as "hydrogen ash" is a good one I will remember.

I wonder how many people will fall for this hoax?

[FogerRox]

7. Some funny shit

An energy generator splits the water molecules to produce hydrogen and this is used to power the car.

What powers this "energy generator"? Nuff said.

Click on the "More" link and read about the "Free Energy Device", click on that link and you arrive here:
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/12/04/free-energy-device-yes-they-are-real/

Like I said, some funny shit- Nuff said.

[hunter]

10. Geez. I built this fusion reactor and all I've got to show for it is huge medical bills...

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. It used expensive metal as the fuel, not water

Genepax uses a metal or a metal compound that can cause an oxidation reaction with water at room temperature, the company said. Metals that react with water include lithium, sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium. The main feature of the Water Energy System is that it can be operated for a longer period of time by controlling the reaction of the metal or the metal compound, the company said.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080616/153301/

As we discussed 5 years ago, this is the equivalent of chucking a lump of sodium into water, like you did at school. The metals concerned are expensive to produce or recycle from the waste (sodium hydroxide, or something like that) that you'd be left with. This would be why the company shut down after a year - there were no more gullible Reuters reporters to scam, and everyone who understood energy knew it was impractical.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste. And the minds.com URL is a terrible thing to waste with articles that don't have a clue about chemstry or energy, but claim that there's a big conspiracy to hide these incredible discoveries. "The same group of people that own the big oil companies also own the mainstream media, so it’s not surprising that we don’t hear about these technologies. Scientists have been murdered, labs have been burnt down, and prototypes have been taken" - that writer is a loon.

[eppur_se_muova]

13. Holy shite, that's even worse !!

Thanks for reading through that drivel; I can't make myself do it anymore.

[eppur_se_muova]

12. Yes, it's a real scam ...

It takes energy to split water into H2 and O2; only part of that energy is recovered on burning. The electrolysis of water has been known for over two and a quarter centuries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water


See a list of previous incarnations here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1787786&mesg_id=1788066