Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

madokie

(51,076 posts)
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 07:24 AM Apr 2013

Not quiet sure what to make of this but at any rate here it is, Thorium powered cars

It would be nice if thorium pans out as so many envisions. dm

This week’s Txchnologist, the online magazine sponsored by GE, examines a far-out technological innovation that might just contain a kernel of plausibility: a thorium laser power generation system that its creator says could provide electricity for the grid, stand-alone power applications and even cars.

Charles Stevens, an inventor and entrepreneur, recently revealed that his Massachusetts-based R&D firm, Laser Power Systems (LPS), is working on a turbine/electric generator system that is powered by “an accelerator-driven thorium-based laser.” The thorium laser does not produce a beam of coherent light like conventional lasers, but instead merely heats up and gives off energy.

Thorium, a silvery-white metal, is a mildly radioactive element (with an atomic weight of 90) that is as abundant as lead. It is present in large quantities in India and is a much-touted stand in for uranium in nuclear reactors because its fission is not self-sustaining, a type of reaction called “sub-critical.”

The idea has energized the small but active thorium community, which holds that it is the answer to our clean energy needs because it could, effectively, power a car forever. The new technology “would be totally emissions-free,” Stevens said, “with no need for recharging.”

The rest: http://www.gereports.com/thorium-lasers-the-thoroughly-plausible-idea-for-nuclear-cars/

10 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Not quiet sure what to make of this but at any rate here it is, Thorium powered cars (Original Post) madokie Apr 2013 OP
Reads like a scam. FBaggins Apr 2013 #1
Imagine that madokie Apr 2013 #2
His claims are filled with nonsense that sounds scientific... but isn't. FBaggins Apr 2013 #3
Mr. Fusion! Javaman Apr 2013 #4
One thing: if you aren't making a beam of coherent light, you aren't a laser. phantom power Apr 2013 #5
As I said I'm not quiet sure what to make of this madokie Apr 2013 #6
I'm with FB, it's pretty much technobabble word-salad. phantom power Apr 2013 #7
"Thorium" scam widely linked, hits Slashdot eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #8
I figured as much madokie Apr 2013 #9
Should have posted a day earlier ... ;^) nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2013 #10

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
3. His claims are filled with nonsense that sounds scientific... but isn't.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:41 AM
Apr 2013

He claims that it isn't a nuclear reaction... yet also clams more power from a given mass of thorium than you would get from the same mass of uranium in a reactor. Dozens of times as much.

Not that there's any science I've ever heard of that says that thorium produces heat just by heating it up (with a laser or otherwise)... but if such a thing were possible, powering cars would be the least of the applications. You could power the entire globe and "too cheap to meter" would actually come true. No need for containment... no nuclear fission... incredibly cheap/abundant fuel. You would be able to convert existing coal plants (and gas where it was heating steam) cheaply - so little infrastructure requirements.

In short... it's no different from claims to have built cold fusion or perpetual motion machines. He's looking for the gullible.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
5. One thing: if you aren't making a beam of coherent light, you aren't a laser.
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 10:17 AM
Apr 2013

Just because that's the definition of a laser.


madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. As I said I'm not quiet sure what to make of this
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 11:24 AM
Apr 2013

its above my pay scale.
I thought it would be something to get a laugh out of at least, seems its doing just that.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
9. I figured as much
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 01:32 PM
Apr 2013

and pretty much expected the response I got.
Thanks
LOL, I checked out the du link.
DU is amazing, Without a doubt the best place on the net. Bullshit doesn't get very far here, thats good.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Environment & Energy»Not quiet sure what to ma...