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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 08:35 AM Sep 2012

is the end of monsanto near? prop 37 succeeding as nations ban GMO

http://www.nationofchange.org/end-monsanto-near-prop-37-succeeding-nations-ban-gmo-crops-1348924495



Is the end of Monsanto within reach? It has certainly been a rough couple of weeks for the mega corporation as the real dangers surrounding GMOs are being brought to the attention of consumers on a global scale like never before. It all started with the monumental French study finding a serious link between the consumption of Monsanto’s Roundup-drenched GMOs and massive tumors. Being called the ‘most thorough’ research ever published on the real health effects of GMOs, the study led to even larger victories.

After the study not only did France call for a potential worldwide ban on GMOs pending the results of their in-depth analysis, but Russia’s major consumer rights organization announced a ban on both the importation and use of Monsanto’s GMO corn.

Prop 37 Can Label Monsanto Out of Existence

And now, the Proposition to label all GMOs in the state of California is showing massive success. If Prop 37 passes, it won’t just affect California. It is very likely that other states will not just take note, but adopt similar legislation. Through this legal mechanism, we can essential label Monsanto out of existence. This is possible when considering that the average consumer is actually opposed to GMOs and heavily in favor of proper labeling.
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is the end of monsanto near? prop 37 succeeding as nations ban GMO (Original Post) xchrom Sep 2012 OP
Great news! Laurajr Sep 2012 #1
It would be nice to see Monsanto go the way of the unhappycamper Sep 2012 #2
... xchrom Sep 2012 #3
More hysteria. Do you really think these things through? Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #4
and how much does monsanto pay you? n/t Pharaoh Sep 2012 #5
Excellent response! Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #16
If YOU think it's hysteria and ignorance, then maybe... MattSh Sep 2012 #25
Yes, how dare anyone attack a Bain Capital-funded company! valerief Sep 2012 #6
Unfortunately, science in on Monsanto's side. Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #17
unfortunately we don't really know that Viva_La_Revolution Sep 2012 #20
Science is on Monsanto's side GitRDun Sep 2012 #26
Bullshit! Webster Green Sep 2012 #27
It ain't tama Sep 2012 #28
Yeah, what do all those nations banning GMOs know? valerief Sep 2012 #31
Absolutely not. See 'Scientists Under Attack' (German documentary on INDEPENDENT biotech research). proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #33
Thanks for the great info, proverbial! If I believed in Evil, Monsatan would be top of my list. They Mnemosyne Sep 2012 #42
The movement in the prop is to label GMOs lunasun Sep 2012 #9
If you are under the impression that the world can be fed with "organic" food, you are very mistaken Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #19
hey even Haiti after disaster and in need of food help rejected the free GMO seeds lunasun Sep 2012 #29
I doubt it. truebluegreen Sep 2012 #34
Is the world presently being fed? roody Sep 2012 #39
Please explain.... blackspade Sep 2012 #14
Do you really think that labeling of foods would spell the end of Monsanto? Buzz Clik Sep 2012 #18
then what's the problem? Viva_La_Revolution Sep 2012 #22
That is not the point.... blackspade Sep 2012 #41
FYI, some reading about Monsanto and ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Commission); Bain, too. proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #23
Whats so ignorant about wanting to know what's in the food-like substances that we ingest? arikara Sep 2012 #44
I hope we can label all GMOs in the US, like Europe has. Overseas Sep 2012 #7
+1! nt Viva_La_Revolution Sep 2012 #21
Monsanto ain't going away because of a label... tinrobot Sep 2012 #8
Tell that... Loudestlib Sep 2012 #10
I read labels and so do a lot of other people. RC Sep 2012 #12
I stopped buying a number of products that contain high-fructose corn syrup LiberalEsto Sep 2012 #15
please beware of beet sugar too lunasun Sep 2012 #30
Didn't know that LiberalEsto Sep 2012 #36
i doubt it high end chefs using local organic is rich peoples fare from what service workers say lunasun Sep 2012 #38
So they have nothing to fear and should have no objection to the labeling for us 5% who read them. Overseas Sep 2012 #24
Yeah, that's why there're so many low-sodium foods on the market. valerief Sep 2012 #32
I agree and I am in front of roody Sep 2012 #40
Prop 37 LoisB Sep 2012 #11
This will be a big fight mainly due to the fact Monsanto has all the seeds patented! The farmers jonesgirl Sep 2012 #13
Finding a Monsanto GMO corn pesticide in the blood of pregnant women/umbilcal cord samples is ok? proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #35
typo - umbilical proverbialwisdom Sep 2012 #37
Right now, 90% of the soybeans grown on earth have stacked genetic traits. NNadir Sep 2012 #43
So what, this is just a labeling scheme. They're not banning products from market. Sirveri Oct 2012 #45
You might wish to reconsider the monstrous implications of your post which I doubt you meant. proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #46
Business Section NYT: 'The Epi-Pen's Maker Invests in Expansion As Allergy Rates in Children Rise' proverbialwisdom Oct 2012 #47

Laurajr

(223 posts)
1. Great news!
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 08:41 AM
Sep 2012

Monsanto has been a thorn in this nations side for years. Remember agent orange many people still suffering. Monsanto deserves to die.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
4. More hysteria. Do you really think these things through?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:15 AM
Sep 2012

The ignorance surrounding this movement is stunning.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
16. Excellent response!
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:46 AM
Sep 2012

If someone disagrees with you, they must be a corporate whore.

You see, this is exactly what I'm talking about -- raw emotion and no thought.

(The answer, by the way, is NOTHING)

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
25. If YOU think it's hysteria and ignorance, then maybe...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:16 PM
Sep 2012

you should explain why. If you don't, you leave yourself open to these types of responses.

So... can you explain why it's hysteria and ignorance?

We can wait...

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
17. Unfortunately, science in on Monsanto's side.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:48 AM
Sep 2012

We constantly harp on the knuckledraggers for their poor understanding of scientific issues and their willingness to fly off emotionally when scientific answers are available.

We do exactly the same thing, but we have different demons that terrify us.

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
20. unfortunately we don't really know that
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:06 PM
Sep 2012

since they don't share ALL of the test data, just the 'good' results.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
26. Science is on Monsanto's side
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:32 PM
Sep 2012

Do you have some science you can point us too? Studies? I have not personally seen any studies funded outside the industry that say genetically modified food is safe. I have an interest in this topic. Would be interested in reading anything you can show us.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
27. Bullshit!
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:34 PM
Sep 2012

Monsanto is an evil predator corporation. Their goal is to control the world's food supply. That is obvious.

Have you heard about all the farmers in India who have committed suicide after getting screwed by Monsanto.

Heard about insects becoming resistant to their stupid GMO pesticide schemes? Everything they are doing is backfiring on them. Their "scientists" are fucking clueless.

You are the one who has a very poor understanding of the scientific issues involved in GMOs, yet you attack those who have figured out how dangerous this stuff is.

How anyone defend what these assholes are doing is very puzzling.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
28. It ain't
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:36 PM
Sep 2012

I know quite a lot about agricultural science, environmental science, evolutionary science etc. and Monsanto monoculture is science of suicide.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
33. Absolutely not. See 'Scientists Under Attack' (German documentary on INDEPENDENT biotech research).
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 04:48 PM
Sep 2012



From the website:

http://www.scientistsunderattack.com/

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Dr. Árpád Pusztai

In 1996 and 1997, Dr. Pusztai and his co-worker and wife Dr. Susan Bardócz carried out the first carefully designed and highly sensitive nutrition and toxicologiocal feeding study testing a genetically modified food, potatoes engineered to express the snowdrop lectin gene. When he discussed their findings in an interview broadcast on January 13, 1998 as part of the evening BBC news, a series of events was triggered that have profoundly impacted scientific and public attitudes about GM foods.

Just days after the interview, Dr. Pusztai was relieved of his duties by the director of the Rowett Research Institute, had his laboratory notes confiscated, and was in effect banned from any further interaction with his colleagues at Rowett, where the experiment had been conducted. His wife was then the manager of the division of the Rowett Institute within which the work was carried out. She, too, lost her job over the controversy triggered by the article.

In its October 16, 1999 issue, the respected British medical journal The Lancet published the Pusztai study results, in an article co-authored with Dr. Stanley Ewen. The research was subjected to an unprecedented two-year campaign of criticism carried out by proponents of GM technology. The U.K. Royal Society played an active role in organizing and publicizing criticisms of the Pusztai-Ewen experiment. The Lancet subsequently published a series of letters raising various questions and criticisms, to which Pusztai and Ewen responded fully. The validity of their study and its findings remain intact. To this day, the Pusztai-Ewen experiment remains the most sensitive and rigorous GM food feeding trial ever conducted.

Pusztai, Ewen and Bardócz knew very little about GM technology when they successfully competed for the $1.2 million grant from the Scottish government that supported their GM potato feeding study. They discussed the results of this research in much the same way as they had discussed the results of dozens of earlier studies. They did not anticipate the events that would be triggered by their work and a brief report on the evening BBC news program.

Account written by Dr. Charles Benbrook, director of the Northwest Science and Environmental Policy Center and manager of the AgBiotech InfoNet, based in Sandpoint, Idaho.

The Lancet coverage of the controversy:

May 29, 1999: An editorial raises the importance of growing debate over GM food safety and mentions basic findings of Pusztai research, quoting Pusztai's comment in an interview that he would not eat the GM potatoes himself, and that it is "very, very unfair to use our fellow citizens as guineapigs." This ediorial appears over five months before the publication by "The Lancet" of the Ewen-Pusztai paper on the GM potato experiment.

Born in Hungary, he received his degree in chemistry in Budapest and his B.Sc. in physiology and Ph.D. in biochemistry at the University of London. His career spans 50 years and work at universities and research institutes in Budapest, London, Chicago and Aberdeen (Rowett Research Institute). He has published nearly 300 peer-reviewed papers and wrote or edited 12 scientific books.

During the past 30 years, Dr. Pusztai he has pioneered research into the effects of dietary lectins (carbohydrate-reactive proteins), including those transgenically expressed in GM crop plants, on the gastrointestinal tract. His laboratory research on the nutritional and developmental impacts of a transgenic potato with increased natural pest protection has raised public and scientific inquiry in Europe. His October 16, 1999 study results, co-authored with Dr. Stanley Ewen and published in the respected British medical Journal The Lancet, remains the most sensitive and rigorous GM food feeding trial ever conducted.

Since 1998, Dr. Pusztai has been lecturing and acting as a consultant to groups exploring research in the area of health effects of GM foods. He is currently serving as a consultant to the Norwegian Food Sciences Institute.

His seminal article on the impacts of GM potatoes on rats appeared in The Lancet, Oct. 16, 1999, Vol. 354, No. 9187, pages 1353-1354.

Pusztai has co-authored a chapter in the book, Food Safety: Contaminants and Toxins [April 2003, edited by J.P.F. D'Mello, Scottish Agricultural College, Edinburgh, UK; ISBN: 0851996078], Chapter 16, Genetically Modified Foods: Potential Human Health Effects. [Note: This is a read-only PDF; contact the Center for a copy of the document.]


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Dr. Ignacio Chapela

In the spring of 2001 NATURE does something that it had never done before. For the first time in 137 years, the world's most important science magazine actually retracts a published article. This is very strange and very worrying - a scientist is under attack for doing his job.

The renowned biologist Dr Ignacio Chapela has submitted this article a few months earlier. It is about cross-pollination of Mexico's indigenous maize by GM varieties, but the magazine issue has not even finished being distributed when the editors are inundated with a flood of angry e-mails. Ignacio's research scientific qualifications and integrity are called into question. Why has a seemingly normal scientific paper caused such a fuss?

Then GUARDIAN journalists George Monbiot and Claire Robinson discover that all of the letters behind this calumny campaign trace back to one single source: the BIVINGS GROUP, an advertising agency.

They also find out that the agency is paid by MONSANTO, the giant multi-national chemicals and seed corporation. Monsanto has commissioned the BIVINGS GROUP to carry out a viral marketing campaign proudly lauded on their homepage as an effective and modern advertising strategy to "Infect the world!” Fictitious opinions and letters from non-existent persons are computer-generated and flood the addressee's inbox. The next question is obvious: Why is the Monsanto corporation so bent on discrediting Dr Chapela's research?

In 2001 Mexican-born Ignacio Chapela has found out that the indigenous maize of Oaxaca province, despite official protection by the Mexican government, has been significantly mixed with genetically manipulated maize. This is a significant discovery, for Oaxaca is not just a spot on the map. This is the genetic reservoir of different varieties of indigenous maize for the whole world, and it was from here that maize set out to conquer the world 5,000 years ago. Ignacio's discovery is highly alarming and Monsanto's response shows that he has hit the weak spot of companies involved in genetic engineering. He undermines the idea of co-existence, the belief propagated by the genetic engineering industry that natural plants can grow next to genetically manipulated plants without any cross-pollination.

However Monsanto aren't content with forcing Nature to bow to imaginary pressure and retract the article - they go after Ignacio himself. Because of his remarkable international career Chapela is expected to be granted professorship and tenure at the University of Berkeley. But he is rejected "for financial reasons" at the end of 2004 and suddenly finds himself in a situation where both his position as a scientist and his livelihood are in jeopardy.

So is Monsanto's suppression of the uncomfortable facts about cross-pollination between GM and normal crops a one off storm in a scientific teacup? Definitely not. What Ignacio found is a great danger to everybody's good in threatening the biodiversity of our plants, the safety of our food and the environment.

Already once before, Chapela waged a fight for freedom in doing research that uncomfortably got in the way of the genetic engineering industry.

Chapela objected to an agreement in which the department and faculty of Plant and Microbial Biology at UC Berkeley took money from Novartis in exchange for a degree of publication scrutiny and trade secrecy, taking a strong position on the issue.

Chapela was initially denied tenure at UC Berkeley in 2003. Supporters claim that this stems from opposition to Chapela's anti-Novartis activism from Molecular and Cell Biology faculty member Jasper Rine, who was both a member of the tenure committee and in a research relationship with the company. However, Chapela was ultimately awarded tenure in 2005.

Chapela has also spoken out against the deal between UC Berkeley, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, and British Petroleum to research the development of biofuels, which may involve genetically engineering microorganisms and plants. The grant went into effect in 2007.

Chapela founded The Mycological Facility in Oaxaca state, a facility dealing with questions of natural resources and indigenous rights, and collaborates with indigenous communities in Mexico, Costa Rica, and Ecuador on issues of rights to genetic resources. He is also an advisory board member for The Sunshine Project, an organization promoting citizens' concerns with biosafety and biowarfare.

He has appeared in several films on genetically modified organism and food systems issues, „The World According to Monsanto“, „The Future of Food“ and „Scientists under Attack – Genetic engineering in the magnetic field of money“ (2010), produced and directed by Bertram Verhaag, Denkmal-Film.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
42. Thanks for the great info, proverbial! If I believed in Evil, Monsatan would be top of my list. They
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:58 PM
Sep 2012

are destroying our access to safe food, contaminating crops, etc.,etc.,etc.

With a whimper, 'cause we'll all be to ill to bang.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
19. If you are under the impression that the world can be fed with "organic" food, you are very mistaken
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:51 AM
Sep 2012

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
29. hey even Haiti after disaster and in need of food help rejected the free GMO seeds
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:55 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2010/06/haitian-farmers-burn-monsanto-hybrid-seeds/

look at how they sold that feed the world crap to India and Mexico
then look what happened or dont look but
Monsanto has yet to show that their crops actually benefit people rather than its own pocketbook,

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
34. I doubt it.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 04:54 PM
Sep 2012

Organic farms, integrating green crops and farm animals, can produce more food per acre than monocultural factory farms. Healthier, too.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. Please explain....
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

How accurate labeling of foods is ignorant.

Or how the French study is hysterical.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
18. Do you really think that labeling of foods would spell the end of Monsanto?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:49 AM
Sep 2012

Are there more than a thousand people who are scared shitless of eating genetically modified foods?

Viva_La_Revolution

(28,791 posts)
22. then what's the problem?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:12 PM
Sep 2012

those 'few' of us will read labels and choose what we want to eat, and the rest of the millions of people will continue to consume it no matter what the labels say. Are you worried about the increased cost of a few more words on a label?

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
23. FYI, some reading about Monsanto and ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Commission); Bain, too.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:40 PM
Sep 2012


http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/09/14/850321/romney-monsanto/?mobile=nc

Romney And Bain Boosted Agriculture Giant Monsanto In Spite Of Toxic Past

By Aviva Shen on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:37 am



Biotechnology firm Monsanto Company, which currently owns most of the patents for America’s staple crops, is already cozy with American lawmakers. A new Nation report, however, indicates that “a very old friend in a very high place” may usher in the corporation’s most prosperous years yet.

The Nation’s investigative report ( http://www.thenation.com/article/169885/mitt-romney-monsanto-man# ) has uncovered how Mitt Romney personally helped Monsanto shed its string of toxic chemical-related scandals and reinvent itself to dominate American agriculture. Monsanto, an early Bain & Company client, was so impressed with Romney that they started bypassing his superiors to deal with him directly. Romney’s close relationship with then CEO John Hanley prompted his boss to create Bain Capital to keep Romney from leaving and taking their largest consulting client with him.

From 1977 to 1985, Romney helped navigate Monsanto through very rocky waters. The agribusiness was flooded with lawsuits after Congress banned the toxic coolant PCBs, a Monsanto product that has been linked to cancer and neurological disorders. At the same time, Monsanto’s Agent Orange toxin, used to defoliate jungles in the Vietnam War, was linked to the contamination of millions of Vietnamese and American soldiers and had been dubbed “the largest chemical warfare operation” in human history.

Tom Philpott at Mother Jones dug up a 2002 article ( http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/romney-monsanto-bain ) describing Monsanto’s attempts to hide its toxic waste disposal even after managers discovered fish “spurting blood and shedding skin” within 10 seconds of the PCB dump:
Monsanto Co. routinely discharged toxic waste into a west Anniston [Alabama] creek and dumped millions of pounds of PCBs into oozing open-pit landfills. And thousands of pages of Monsanto documents—many emblazoned with warnings such as “CONFIDENTIAL: Read and Destroy”—show that for decades, the corporate giant concealed what it did and what it knew.

Faced with costly litigation, Monsanto relied on Romney to create their new public image — one that did not involve poisoning soldiers or dumping chemicals in rivers:
Dr. Earl Beaver, who was Monsanto’s waste director during the Bain period, says that Bain was certainly “aware” of the “PCB and dioxin scandals” because they created “a negative public perception that was costing the company money.” So Bain recommended focusing “on the businesses that didn’t have those perceptions,” Beaver recalls, starting with “life science products that were biologically based,” including genetically engineered crops, as well as Roundup, the hugely profitable weed-killer. “These were the products that Bain gave their go-ahead to,” Beaver contends, noting that Romney was a key player, “reviewing the data collected by other people and developing alternatives,” talking mostly to “the higher muckety-mucks.”
<...>


Sweetness and light.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
44. Whats so ignorant about wanting to know what's in the food-like substances that we ingest?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:44 PM
Sep 2012

Seriously. What's the problem with the addition of a wee tiny phrase to a package? If Monsatano really thought their stuff was so wonderful you'd think they'd paint it on in great big neon letters. Instead they go through all sorts of expensive and hysterical contortions to avoid doing just that.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
7. I hope we can label all GMOs in the US, like Europe has.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:48 AM
Sep 2012

The people who want to prove they are tough can go ahead and grab those GMO items.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
12. I read labels and so do a lot of other people.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:24 AM
Sep 2012

And I can be quite vocal about excessive salt in foods and with any High Fructose Corn syrup listed in anything I am thinking of buying, talking louder than necessary to my SO, next to me in the store, when reading the list of ingredients.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
15. I stopped buying a number of products that contain high-fructose corn syrup
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:32 AM
Sep 2012

I'm sure a lot of label readers did likewise. For example. a year ago I couldn't find even ONE product from Pepperidge Farms that was high-fructose corn syrup-free.

Within the past year, I've noticed that the companies were changing their ingredients to either stop using HFCS, or to attempt to conceal it by labeling it as "corn sugar".

Believe me, people want to know if they are being sold GMO crap, so we can avoid buying it.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
30. please beware of beet sugar too
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 03:13 PM
Sep 2012

Farmers across the country are planting Monsanto's Roundup Ready sugar beet, genetically engineered for resistance to Monsanto's herbicide glyphosate (marketed as Roundup). Up to 95 percent of the sugar beet crop in Idaho alone is GM, totaling 150,000 out of 167,000 acres.
Half of the granulated sugar in the U.S. comes from pesticide laden sugar beets

and july 2012 fyi>
The days of food and beverage makers hiding the gargantuan sugar content of high fructose corn syrup under the deceptive label of "corn sugar" are over following a U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) decision that prohibits the common industry practice.

According to recent reports, FDA regulators said they made the move to clear up any confusion about the definition of "sugar."

At present, corn sugar can, at times, refer to another sugary substance - dextrose - which comes from corn starch. Dextrose was developed for people who don't have the ability to absorb or tolerate syrup.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
36. Didn't know that
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:15 PM
Sep 2012

Thanks

If they're not trying to poison us one way, they're trying to kill us some other way.
I wonder if the Romneys eat food containing GMO stuff.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
38. i doubt it high end chefs using local organic is rich peoples fare from what service workers say
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 07:26 PM
Sep 2012

maybe on election trail he has to slum it though.......
GMOs are for the peasants doncha know

they are greedy not insane

Does Monsanto Man Mitt Romney Secretly Eat Organic?
—By Tom Philpott
| Wed Sep. 26, 2012 3:00 AM PDT
http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2012/09/report-monsanto-man-mitt-romney-eats-organic


Nor is this the first time the Romney family has been linked to organic food. Get a load of this 2002 profile of Ann Romney from the Worcester (Mass.) Telegram & Gazette:

Mrs. Romney was introduced to several practitioners of holistic medicine, who persuaded her to adopt alternative therapies. She now eats organic foods and very little meat. She practices reflexology and undergoes acupuncture treatments. She credits the lifestyle with turning her health around.

and if u think monsanto execs eat that crap after all they know pleez

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
24. So they have nothing to fear and should have no objection to the labeling for us 5% who read them.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

LoisB

(7,188 posts)
11. Prop 37
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:22 AM
Sep 2012

I've just read prop. 37 and am voting yes even though it does not go far enough (for instance the requirement shall NOT apply to "food consisting entirely of, or derived entirely from, an animal that has not itself been genetically engineered, regardless of whether such animal has been fed or injected with any genetically engineered food or any drug that has been produced through means of genetic engineering". Also, restaurants are not required to advise on their use of genetically engineered foods.

Prop 37 is, I believe, a decent initial step but we have a long way to go.

jonesgirl

(157 posts)
13. This will be a big fight mainly due to the fact Monsanto has all the seeds patented! The farmers
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:25 AM
Sep 2012

cannot save Monsanto seeds for the next season crop...they have to buy new. Monsanto test farmer's seeds to make sure none have the Patented seeds DNA. Many farmers have been sued by Monsanto because of this, even if it was due to cross-pollination. Do the farmers have money to buy the patents? Do any farmers still have original seeds, and are there enough to get rid of Monsanto?
Monsanto tricked farmers into buying the new seeds. Monsanto boasted their seeds were drought resistant, grew faster and bigger. Most farmers were unaware the seeds were patented. Want to know more? Search such things as; Monsanto sues farmers; farmers cannot save Monsanto seeds for next crop season...you get the picture.
Now, what about our meat, and the use of sex hormones pumped into the animals to make them grow faster and fatter. Why is this being done? The answer: they have to speed it up so they can feed the world.
Any way it ends with the Americans paying the price out of OUR pockets, not the companies. That's the way it is, right? Gotta make sure the investors and shareholders get THEIR money. God forbid the companies pay anything out of their pocket, just keep passing it onto the consumers.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm sick of their mindset, and I'm sick of these lazy ass "investors" too!

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
35. Finding a Monsanto GMO corn pesticide in the blood of pregnant women/umbilcal cord samples is ok?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012
http://www.latimes.com/health/ct-met-gmo-food-labeling--20110524,0,3802216.story

With no labeling, few realize they are eating genetically modified foods

Some consumers are concerned that such foods may pose health risks and say manufacturers should be required to identify them for consumers

By Monica Eng, Tribune reporter
May 24, 2011, 8:28 p.m.


...Canadian researchers this year reported that the blood of 93 percent of pregnant women and 80 percent of their umbilical cord blood samples contained a pesticide implanted in GMO corn by the biotech company Monsanto, though digestion is supposed to remove it from the body. "Given the potential toxicity of these environmental pollutants and the fragility of the fetus, more studies are needed," they wrote in Reproductive Toxicology.



http://www.organicconsumers.org/benbrook_annals_response2012.pdf

September 4, 2012

Initial Reflections on the Annals of Internal Medicine Paper "Are Organic Foods Safer and Healthier Than Conventional Alternatives? A Systematic Review

By: Charles Benbrook


Center for Sustaining Agriculture and Natural Resources
Washington State University

...For most people, just switching to organic fruits and vegetables, or organic dairy products or meat, in the absence of other changes in food choices and overall diet quality, would not be expected to trigger a clinically significant improvement in health, especially in the relatively short time periods assessed in the dietary-­‐ intervention or human-­‐health studies reviewed by the Stanford team.

The one exception in the literature—studies spanning the duration of a woman’s pregnancy and the first few years of a child’s life—provide encouraging evidence that organic food can reduce the odds of some adverse health impacts, including birth defects, neuro-­‐behavioral and learning problems, autism, and eczema (Arbuckle, et al., 2001; Bellinger, 2012; Bouchard, et al., 2011; Engel, et al., 2011; Garry et al.; 2002; Rauh, et al., 2011; Schreinemachers, 2003).


Link from: http://www.organicconsumers.org/

NNadir

(33,481 posts)
43. Right now, 90% of the soybeans grown on earth have stacked genetic traits.
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 10:09 PM
Sep 2012

I imagine that all of the GMO proteins provided by things like Tofu wiped out life on earth, just like Fukushima wiped out Japan.

Do you know what another word for genetic modification is? It's called E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N.

When evolution is manipulated for human uses - as has been done for many millennia - it's called Breeding.

It's the reason that a fair number of them were able to survive the human induced droughts in North America this year.

California can't do anything except have mobs pass laws that are meaningless and/or toxic.

We justifiably like to make fun of the right wing for its hatred of science, but one of the things I've learned since blogging is that people who live in cadmium selenide coated glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

The fact is that there is no such thing as "natural" anymore. The anti-science squads, far right and far left have left the planet in a shambles.

California will have a choice: Give up these continual exercises in mob rule stupidity, fear and ignorance, or simply starve to death.

And the last one is not just a paranoid threat. Fear, ignorance and superstition on the climate - said fear, ignorance and superstition on the left coming from the likes of our abysmally educated anti-nukes - has lead to major crop failures on every continent in the last 10 years: Australia, Argentina, France, Russia, and the United States have all suffered major crop failures.

This situation is going to cause evolution whether human directed or otherwise, and all the insipid crap from the population of California will make zero difference.

proverbialwisdom

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46. You might wish to reconsider the monstrous implications of your post which I doubt you meant.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:50 PM
Oct 2012
Posted by NNadir

Do you know what another word for genetic modification is? It's called E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N.

When evolution is manipulated for human uses - as has been done for many millennia - it's called Breeding.


Those words are not used when the processes you describe are applied to human subjects. Those processes are not ethically or legally applicable to human populations, in fact.

Do you know the reason why PEOPLE OVER PROFITS will prevail? Too many children are ill. Consider that as a population American children are the sickest in history and that GMO foods introduced in the 1990's top the list of potential contributing environmental causes.

Here's a chance for the industry to reboot - remove food from the biotech world and carry-on with miracle drug development.


http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/letters/2012-09-28/candidates-mum-autism?v=1348871764


COMMENT: http://www.californiahealthline.org/articles/2012/9/24/californias-preparation-for-treating-adults-with-autism-in-question.aspx

“About 60,000 residents currently receive state-funded services for developmental disabilities, a significant increase from the fewer than 5,000 residents who received such services in the mid-1990s.

“A large percentage of such residents are people younger than 22, the age when they no longer qualify for special education services in public schools.

“In the next three years, thousands of young adults with autism in California will reach that age threshold.”


How long can our nation survive with an increasing population of dependent adults? Our federal health officials have watched autism overwhelm a generation of children and done nothing to stop it. Officials still can’t say for sure how much of the exponential growth in autism is a real increase or just “better diagnosing.” When will they know? When the rate is one in every 10 children?

If the candidates are so worried about the economy, they should consider what autism is going to cost us.
Anne Dachel, Media editor: Age of Autism


COMMENT: There are more childen with autism today than all the other childhood diseases mentioned here including cancer, downs syndrome etc. It is the fastest growing disability. Perhaps you don't know that 25 years ago the number affected was 1 in 10,000. Now it is 1 in 54 boys in this country. It's 1 in 29 boys in New Jersey.

1 in 5 children in school has a developmental disability.

There is no other illness in the US that is increasing as quickly as autism. That is why it needs special attention. Autism classes are bursting at the seams and the schools cannot handle the size or the cost. If we don't stop this epidemic now-we will all be paying for them in our taxes forever because the majority will never be able to support themselves. We are losing generations of children to autism. That's why the president and congress must do something now. You talk about national debt-how about supporting 3-4 million children with autism 10 years from now or sooner?


Oh, yeah, this, too: http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/09/age-of-autism-weekly-wrap-lacrosse-drinks-brian-deer-koolaid.html#more
(includes excerpt of testimony under oath by fully exonerated pediatric gastroenterologist and co-founder of the field, '...we were finding a new disorder. … We were beginning to see a new syndrome, fairly clear features of children [with regressive developmental disorders] presenting with diarrhoea, very often abdominal pain which often was not diagnosed by other doctors. ...There is a characteristic symptom pattern...')

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
47. Business Section NYT: 'The Epi-Pen's Maker Invests in Expansion As Allergy Rates in Children Rise'
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:59 PM
Oct 2012
EXCERPT: A study last year in the journal Pediatrics found that about one in 13 children had a food allergy, and nearly 40 percent of those with allergies had severe reactions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/business/mylan-invests-in-epipen-as-child-allergies-increase.html?pagewanted=all

September 7, 2012
Tiny Lifesaver for a Growing Worry
By KATIE THOMAS


It has become an all-too-familiar story in schools across the country: a child eats a peanut or is stung by a bee and suffers an immediate, life-threatening allergic reaction known as anaphylaxis.

If parents and school authorities know about the allergy and a doctor’s prescription is on file, a nurse can quickly give an injection of epinephrine, saving the child’s life.

But school nurses in many districts face an agonizing choice if a child without a prescription develops a sudden reaction to an undiagnosed allergy. Should they inject epinephrine and risk losing their nursing license for dispensing it without a prescription, or call 911 and pray the paramedics arrive in time?

After a 7-year-old girl died in January in a similar case in Virginia, the state passed a law that allows any child who needs an emergency shot to get one. Beginning this month, every school district in Virginia is required to keep epinephrine injectors on hand for use in an emergency. Illinois, Georgia and Maryland have passed similar laws, and school nurses are pushing for one in Ohio. A lobbying effort backed by Mylan, which markets the most commonly used injector, the EpiPen, made by Pfizer, led to the introduction last year of a federal bill that would encourage states to pass such laws.

Mylan has also lobbied state legislatures around the country directly and is passing out free EpiPens this fall to any qualifying school that wants them.

“When a child is having an anaphylactic reaction, the only thing that can save her life is epinephrine,” said Maria L. Acebal, the chief executive of the Food Allergy and Anaphylaxis Network. “911 doesn’t get there fast enough.”

The efforts are an acknowledgment of the rising rates of food allergies among children and a handful of deaths from allergies across the country. In many schools, children carry their own epinephrine injectors in their backpacks to use themselves, if they’re old enough, or the devices are stored on their behalf in nurses’ offices.

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[font style=color:blue]Although no one knows exactly why, the rate of food allergies among children appears to be on the rise.[/font] One survey found that in 2008, one in 70 children was allergic to peanuts, compared with one in 250 in 1997.

“I don’t think it’s overdiagnosis,” said Dr. Scott H. Sicherer, the author of the report and a researcher at the Jaffe Food Allergy Institute at Mount Sinai Medical Center in Manhattan. “There really seems to be a difference.”

A study last year in the journal Pediatrics found that about one in 13 children had a food allergy, and nearly 40 percent of those with allergies had severe reactions. A recent survey in Massachusetts, where schools are permitted to administer epinephrine to any student, found that one-quarter of students who had to be given the drug for a reaction did not know they had an allergy. But in many schools, employees are not allowed to use epinephrine injectors on children who do not have a prescription.

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Also: http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/09/childhood-american-style.html#comments
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