Environment & Energy
Related: About this forumClimate Story of the Year/Decade/Century playing out in Real Time....
Background story for newcomers:
Arctic is melting faster than anyone anticipated. Arctic Storm(s) of great intensity appearing that no one has seen before.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014189506
People are seeing mixing, unexplained methane, ice sheet breakups, etc. etc.
Then this thread occurred:
Posted by Tenney Naumer
Posted by: Alais Elena | August 10, 2012 at 19:30
Good find, Tenney (fixed your link). And sea ice speed is one of those things that sea ice models do not reproduce well (see Rampal et al. 2011).
BTW, you were right that 2008 also had a detachment of a swathe of ice floes in the East Siberian Sea, but it doesn't come close to this year's event.
Posted by: Neven | August 10, 2012 at 19:33
Tenney, your find is the find of the century. I already had someone mail me about Hakkinen's work in relation to some other stuff. Unfortunately I'm too busy right now to write more, but I'll try to get to this next week as it shows yet another link between AGW and what we're witnessing in the Arctic right now.
Posted by: Neven | August 10, 2012 at 20:17
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2012/08/arctic-summer-storm-open-thread.html?cid=6a0133f03a1e37970b01761725941d970c#comment-6a0133f03a1e37970b01761725941d970c
BeHereNow
(17,162 posts)Nothing to see here.
BHN
Junkdrawer
(27,993 posts)My guess? They're still trying to figure out how to spin this into a "Yeah, well, it's happened before" story.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)can't figure out a way to tell the story in such a way as to make it mean anything or matter to a guy with three kids, a wife on anti-depressants and an underwater mortgage.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)This isn't exactly newspaper coverage, but it did get a good article on one of their sponsored blogs:
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/a-closer-look-at-ice-impacts-of-a-rare-arctic-summer-storm/