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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 03:42 AM Dec 2011

What to Do About Asian Carp? Great Lakes States Can’t Agree

The leaders of the Great Lakes states had come to a moment of calm, glassy waters. It was 2008, and after years of negotiation, politicians in the eight states around the lakes had reached agreement on a compact that would protect their (and their Canadian counterparts’) precious fresh water from what they saw as one of the Midwest’s biggest threats: tapping from other, water-hungry regions.

But a different threat soon broke the peace. Tests began indicating that genetic material from Asian carp, a nonnative, voracious fish with the potential to upend the lakes’ ecosystem, had been discovered in the major waterway system leading to Lake Michigan. Last year, fears grew worse: A 19.6-pound bighead carp was captured there not far from the lake — beyond an elaborate electric fence that had been built to prevent just such an outcome.

The states have split. Some, led by water-ringed Michigan, have filed legal actions aimed at ending access from the nearby tributaries of the Mississippi River, where Asian carp already are flourishing, to the Great Lakes. Others, including Illinois, have objected, saying any such closing would interfere with Chicago’s ability to control flooding as well as with the commercial barges that haul sand, coal, cement and salt through the waterway.

In the eyes of some, the fierce debate has shouldered out discussion of other pressing concerns on the Great Lakes: pollution, repair of harbors, restoration of wetlands and even an early test of the compact, expected in the coming months, about whether to divert water to a city not on the lakefront, Waukesha, Wis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/us/in-great-lakes-states-a-divide-over-the-asian-carp.html?_r=1&hpw

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What to Do About Asian Carp? Great Lakes States Can’t Agree (Original Post) XemaSab Dec 2011 OP
A full-on, year-round open season for anyone who wants to fish for them. DCKit Dec 2011 #1
They are filter feeders pscot Dec 2011 #2
You can't really fish for them waddirum Dec 2011 #3
My vote has always been to seperate the Great Lakes and the Mississippi System AnOhioan Dec 2011 #4
Who ever came up with the bright idea to introduce them to our waters should madokie Dec 2011 #5
here ya go AnOhioan Dec 2011 #6
 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
1. A full-on, year-round open season for anyone who wants to fish for them.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 07:02 AM
Dec 2011

I've heard they're not actually bad eating.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
2. They are filter feeders
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:56 PM
Dec 2011

so they won't strike a lure. Wing shooting is a popular method of catching them. Induce them to jump, then blast em in mid-air. I'm not sure you'd want to eat what's left.

waddirum

(979 posts)
3. You can't really fish for them
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:58 PM
Dec 2011

They eat very small aquatic species. They don't really go for bait.

However, they are startled by electric motors and jump out of the water into the air. There is an annual redneck fishing tournament in Bath, IL, where the flying Asian Carp are caught in nets. Check out youtube. There are a bunch of videos of the flying carp in the Illinois River.

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
4. My vote has always been to seperate the Great Lakes and the Mississippi System
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:06 PM
Dec 2011

Will it cause some economic harm to the shipping industry? Probably...but that cost would pale in comparison to the economic damage the entire Great Lakes Basin would suffer if the Asian Carp were to establish themselves in the lakes.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
5. Who ever came up with the bright idea to introduce them to our waters should
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:18 PM
Dec 2011

have his/her ass kicked clear up between their shoulders.
Whose responsible for that anyway, anyone know?

AnOhioan

(2,894 posts)
6. here ya go
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:51 PM
Dec 2011

"Bighead and silver carp were imported by private fish farmers in Arkansas in the early 1970s. They were used to control plant growth in fish ponds, but by the early 1980s, both species had escaped into open waters. With no natural enemies, the fish have reproduced rapidly and traveled up the Mississippi River."

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/bigstory/archive/2011/10/asian-carp-qa.shtml

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