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hatrack

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Thu Sep 19, 2024, 06:38 AM Sep 19

Cost Of AI In Water, Energy, Emissions Worse Than You Thought - 1 Email Costs 1 Bottle's Worth Of Water

Roughly a quarter of Americans have used ChatGPT since the chatbot’s 2022 release, according to the Pew Research Center — and every query exacts a cost. Chatbots use an immense amount of power to respond to user questions, and simply keeping the bot’s servers cool enough to function in data centers takes a toll on the environment. While the exact burden is nearly impossible to quantify, The Washington Post worked with researchers at the University of California, Riverside to understand how much water and power OpenAI’s ChatGPT, using the GPT-4 language model released in March 2023, consumes to write the average 100-word email.

Let’s look first at water. Each prompt on ChatGPT flows through a server that runs thousands of calculations to determine the best words to use in a response. In completing those calculations, these servers, typically housed in data centers, generate heat. Often, water systems are used to cool the equipment and keep it functioning. Water transports the heat generated in the data centers into cooling towers to help it escape the building, similar to how the human body uses sweat to keep cool, according to Shaolei Ren, an associate professor at UC Riverside.

Where electricity is cheaper, or water comparatively scarce, electricity is often used to cool these warehouses with large units resembling air-conditioners, he said. That means the amount of water and electricity an individual query requires can depend on a data center’s location and vary widely.

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In Northern Virginia, home to the world’s highest concentration of data centers, citizen groups have protested construction of these buildings, saying they are not only loud energy hogs that don’t bring in enough long-term jobs, but also eyesores that kill home values. In West Des Moines, Iowa, an emerging hotbed of data centers, water department records showed that facilities run by companies like Microsoft used around 6 percent of all the district’s water. After a lengthy court battle, the Oregonian newspaper forced Google to disclose how much its data centers were using in The Dalles, about 80 miles east of Portland; it turned out to be nearly a quarter of all the water available in the town, the documents revealed.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/18/energy-ai-use-electricity-water-data-centers/

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Cost Of AI In Water, Energy, Emissions Worse Than You Thought - 1 Email Costs 1 Bottle's Worth Of Water (Original Post) hatrack Sep 19 OP
I've never had the slightest interest in using ChatGPT or any other "AI". eppur_se_muova Sep 19 #1
I attended this one day conference on this topic at the Oracle center. CoopersDad Sep 19 #2

eppur_se_muova

(37,508 posts)
1. I've never had the slightest interest in using ChatGPT or any other "AI".
Thu Sep 19, 2024, 09:31 AM
Sep 19

I just do not get the attraction. Oh, other than getting "someone" to do work for you without paying them much at all. Corps lurv that.

CoopersDad

(2,901 posts)
2. I attended this one day conference on this topic at the Oracle center.
Thu Sep 19, 2024, 10:17 AM
Sep 19

It was both fascinating and frightening.

Not surprisingly, the worst offenders are very concerned about how to appear sustainable while expanding demand for water and energy to unsustainable levels.

Amazon, Meta, Microsoft, Apple and so many others are responsible on the surface, but consumers help drive the demand for cloud based services and other demands that require data centers.

https://www.svlg.org/silicon-valley-leadership-groups-first-annual-sustainable-growth-summit-driving-innovation-for-a-sustainable-future/

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