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Stunning photos drive home the destructiveness of tar sands (Original Post) Submariner May 2012 OP
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints... NYC_SKP May 2012 #1
Ugly GCP May 2012 #2
Visible from Orbit......... Visible on Google EArth too. FogerRox May 2012 #14
The Greed Basin. asjr May 2012 #3
Amazing! Almost as informative as an on-site guided tour. Surya Gayatri May 2012 #4
This needs to go viral. tabatha May 2012 #5
Maybe that is the trade off for 240,000 jobs and affordable oil. dkf May 2012 #6
Yet if the oil prices weren't so high arikara May 2012 #18
When the only thing left is money BlueToTheBone May 2012 #20
And you know those trucks are the size of small houses /nt dickthegrouch May 2012 #7
So Much Destruction otohara May 2012 #8
I thought it was interesting Meiko May 2012 #9
There is no way at all, ever, that the land can be returned to its original condition. tabatha May 2012 #12
Poor choice of Meiko May 2012 #15
SLightly inaccurate FogerRox May 2012 #13
You are correct Meiko May 2012 #16
Yup- IT would take 100's if not a 1000 years for Muskeg to develop FogerRox May 2012 #17
They can't and won't. arikara May 2012 #19
Destroying the Muskeg, the Canadian peat bogs FogerRox May 2012 #10
It's like scraping out the residue from a crack pipe, for just one more hit arcane1 May 2012 #11

GCP

(8,166 posts)
2. Ugly
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:52 AM
May 2012

You can see these huge pits from 35,000 ft when flying cross-country. They're raping the earth in the name of fossil fuel.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Amazing! Almost as informative as an on-site guided tour.
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:27 AM
May 2012

The super-heated steam drilling process certainly looks cleaner and less destructive than the open-pit mines. But, what's happening underground?

Thanks for posting this, Sub!

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
5. This needs to go viral.
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

How disgusting. How heartbreaking.

Ruining the planet so that we can drive around with gas and ruin the planet more.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
6. Maybe that is the trade off for 240,000 jobs and affordable oil.
Sat May 26, 2012, 11:46 AM
May 2012

Canada is in a lot better shape financially because they are doing this sort of thing. If we greatly dislike it we need to boost oil prices significantly higher to discourage use and encourage a transition to renewables.

It's all about choices.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
18. Yet if the oil prices weren't so high
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:49 AM
May 2012

it wouldn't be worth their while to destroy so much of Alberta to extract it. Its a catch 22.

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
20. When the only thing left is money
Sun May 27, 2012, 08:56 AM
May 2012

what will we eat? How will we live?

I agree that we need to discourage and boost, but I think human nature would move more easily if we boosted first and then raised. Alternatives that are possible is the only way it can happen. Without war, we could subsidize the remediation of the planet.

But of course, first, we must deal with the greedy and that is the real question. How?

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
9. I thought it was interesting
Sat May 26, 2012, 02:15 PM
May 2012

to note that the oil companies must return the land to it's original condition. At least they don't just leave a big open pit like so many mining operations do.

tabatha

(18,795 posts)
12. There is no way at all, ever, that the land can be returned to its original condition.
Sat May 26, 2012, 04:42 PM
May 2012

The soil is disturbed and will take a very long time to recover if at all.

In the meantime all of the invasive plants that proliferate in disturbed areas will take over - probably permanently.

99% of California grasslands are non-native, and they will never return to what they were - and this invasion occurred in areas that were not disturbed at all.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
15. Poor choice of
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:20 PM
May 2012

words on my part. The hole will be filled in, how's that? At least they are forced to cover it up unlike what used to be. I have to agree it would be nice if they could plant something for ground cover, even a tree or two would be nice.

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
13. SLightly inaccurate
Sat May 26, 2012, 04:43 PM
May 2012

All they have to do is establish grasses and such, but once the Muskeg is torn up, it'll take 1000 years to re establish the Muskeg- peat bogs.

So they'll fill in the holes, and drag some soil over the top and plant grasses and such.

 

Meiko

(1,076 posts)
16. You are correct
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:22 PM
May 2012

It will never be original condition. I don't think you can even regenerate muskeg, that stuff is an eco system onto itself.

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
17. Yup- IT would take 100's if not a 1000 years for Muskeg to develop
Sat May 26, 2012, 07:47 PM
May 2012

In a best case scenario..... sigh

arikara

(5,562 posts)
19. They can't and won't.
Sun May 27, 2012, 02:06 AM
May 2012

This land was muskeg, which is basically the kidneys of the Earth. What they do is cover it up a bit and plant some easy to grow grasses and trees that never grew there before, a few deer and rabbits might eventually move in but it is in no way what it used to be. There is no way with that destruction that they can put it back and the Harper government could care less as long as the Chinese gets their oil.

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
10. Destroying the Muskeg, the Canadian peat bogs
Sat May 26, 2012, 04:40 PM
May 2012

Yes, they're supposed to replant the areas, with grass and bushes, it will take 1000 yrs to regenerate the Muskeg if at all.

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