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Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:33 PM


When will they close the "Brooklyn Castle" school?

Part of what I understand from the preview is that this school, I.S. 318, has a great culture in which Chess is cool. We can assume, then, that they must be a good school, at least in terms of student ‘growth’ and that they have ‘effective’ teachers, also in terms of how much ‘growth’ their students have relative to similar students.

As yet more proof that the NYC progress reports on which they have shut down over 100 schools, and the teacher value-added results which we can soon look forward to being used as a ‘significant’ portion of the teacher evaluations, are not accurate enough to be used for such high-stakes purposes, I took a look at their data.

According to The New York Times website, in this school only 4% of the English teachers are “above average” or “high” (insert joke here) compared to 25% of the teachers throughout the city, while 18% of math teachers are “above average” or “high.” Imagine how many Chess championships this school would have won if they had some good teachers.

In New York City schools get annual “progress reports” in which most of the grade is based on student growth relative to similar students. If a school gets three consecutive ‘C’s, or one ‘D’ or one ‘F’, they get on a list for possible closure. I.S. 318 got a ‘C’ in 2010 and another ‘C’ in 2011. In 2011, around the time this movie would have been filming, they were in the bottom 19 percent of all middle schools, according to this metric. In 2010, they were in the bottom 15 percentile. All this while they were winning national Chess championships for ten years! Lucky for them they narrowly missed getting a third ‘C’ and got a ‘B’ in 2012, which catapulted them to the 52nd percentile among New York City middle schools.


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Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:24 PM

1. I am personally aware of one school in NYC which went from an A to an F the next year to an A the

following year.

Yeah. Great marking system.

I'm sure this is not the only school to have had that experience.

It's clearly an imbecilic system, so I bet we keep it for another 10 or 12 years.

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Sun Oct 28, 2012, 06:47 PM

2. great system, designed to close down public schools.


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