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stockholmer

(3,751 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:18 AM Feb 2012

4 stats that show Apple alone could take out the US stock market gains to a large degree

Apple now makes up close to 17% of the the NASDAQ 100 Index weighting.

Apple now makes up almost 4% of the S&P 500 Index weighting.

Apple's earnings represent 43% of the year over year S&P 500 profits increase from Q4 2011.

Apple's stockpile of 100 billion dollars is larger than all but 56 NATIONS entire GDP's.

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At what point does Apple gain so much power that it becomes too big to fail as well in terms of any price being paid to appease it? Also, at what point does the 'what is good for Apple is therefore good for the USA' meme allow for carte blanche in terms of oversight by Apple of rules and laws that are designed to regulate business for the good of the citizens?

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4 stats that show Apple alone could take out the US stock market gains to a large degree (Original Post) stockholmer Feb 2012 OP
Stocks aren't the economy postulater Feb 2012 #1
AAPL is thoroughly unleveraged. Hard to fail like a bank. nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2012 #2
The key point. With zero debt it more like Fort Knox than some house of cards. banned from Kos Feb 2012 #5
This is what happens Owlet Feb 2012 #3
At some point, Apple is the inverse of what is good for the economy. Pholus Feb 2012 #4

postulater

(5,075 posts)
1. Stocks aren't the economy
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 12:38 AM
Feb 2012

they are just people with extra money gambling that someone else will value more than they will in the future.

 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
5. The key point. With zero debt it more like Fort Knox than some house of cards.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:43 AM
Feb 2012

Of course the stock price could retreat on lower sales.

But its still cheap on an EPS basis. Its cheaper than Nokia which is about 6-7 dollars a share last I looked.

Owlet

(1,248 posts)
3. This is what happens
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 07:45 AM
Feb 2012

when everybody gets an iPad for Christmas. Totally predictable. Here's another take with AAPL as currency (or gold - take yr pick)

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/losing-graciously

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
4. At some point, Apple is the inverse of what is good for the economy.
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:31 AM
Feb 2012

Except for a diminishing number of design/software positions and many lower pay retail jiobs Apple IS a foreign company now, just one with a fair number of U.S. stockholders. As Apple's future improves I cannot see any particular reason all of those ties will not start to shrink.

This was PLAINLY evident in Jobs' last public conversation with President Obama and in Apple's STATED position that the U.S. workforce no longer has the motivation or skill set for them.

Another victory for the cheap labor movement. Why shouldn't everyone be cheap labor? Given the numbers, it obviously works.

Now I need to rethink my positions on ninteenth century America. From the civil war to the robber barons, perhaps cheap labor was always the way to go.

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