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[Warren DeMontague]

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[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

1. Clearly, "Milton Diamond" is a tool of the patriarchy

As well as a porn producer.

All I know is that every relationship I've been in, when porn has been watched it was at the full suggestion of my partner. And no, I'm not giving out their names so you creeps can look them up, or so the matriarchy can have them sent to re-education camp.

[Warren DeMontague]

3. A lot of couples enjoy it together, and a lot of women enjoy it.

Another interesting reference was the Milwaukee, I think, study where they couldn't end up having it because they couldn't find ANY men who never watched porn.


OOOO NOOOOEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

[Rowdyboy]

2. Both being gay, my partner and I have similar tastes and find some porn downright er....

Stimulating, so to speak. Its a pleasant diversion for a lazy Monday....

[Warren DeMontague]

4. I think this is one of the big issues some so-called "2nd wave" feminists have with LGBT people.

They don't conveniently fit the narrative,

they enjoy sex (something that is considered, at best, "problematic" in many of these circles, certainly a minefield full of doom and shame and horrible oppression)

...and WORST of all, many gay men engage in these allegedly "programmed by the patriarchy" male sex behaviors, ranging from "objectification" (whatever that means) to the watching of smut, which going by some of the polemical outbursts in radfem-land, is not just one of the worst acts of oppression in human history, but it would seem that the looking at pictures of consenting adults fucking by other consenting adults is THE singularly most oppressive atrocity atrocious oppression act in the history of life on Earth, in the history of sentient life anywhere, hell, in anything that's ever happened or could be imagined to happen.

[Upton]

5. Study doesn't surprise me at all..

My SO and I have always enjoyed porn together....I guess the radical feminists would say she doesn't know what's good for her and needs to go to a special Andrea Dworkin memorial retraining camp.

Actually, we have a good laugh at them, for their goals are much the same as those of RW fundies. IMO, the anti sex radfems have given all feminists a bad name..

[seabeyond]

6. Researchers find legalizing child porn may lead to fewer rates of child sex abuse

According to a study headed by Professor Milton Diamond, from the University of Hawaii, in countries where child porn has been legalized the rate of child sex abuse has fallen significantly.

Milton told Honolulu news station KITV.com, he is not advocating legalizing using kids to make pornography.

“The can do it artificially and if that reduces child sex crimes, I think that is a plus,” he said. We think the perpetrator is more likely to use pornography to masturbate and not go after kids, so we think it’s better for kids.”

Currently computer-generated, or “virtual” child pornography, is banned in the United States when that image is indistinguishable from that of an actual minor.

http://blog.chron.com/momhouston/2010/12/researchers-find-legalizing-child-porn-may-lead-to-fewer-rates-of-child-sex-abuse/
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[Warren DeMontague]

7. Off topic. If you want a discussion into material involving non-adults, start a new thread.

When agenda-driven people desperately try to conflate material by and for adults with material involving non-adults, they enable child abuse IMHO.

Similarly to how when people try to muddy the definition of consent, they make it easier for rapists.

We are talking, here, about material by and for ADULTS, which is what constitutes legal porn in this world. That is completely different from anything involving non-adults, similar to the way that driving on the freeway is different from taking your car and driving over grandpa on purpose.