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Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:27 AM

If it is misogyny to mention a female celeb has gained weight, it is misandry when...?

Or is it fair to assume that NO ONE would call this misandry because it has everything to do with celebrity and nothing to do with hating men or hating women (the meaning of misogyny)

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Reply If it is misogyny to mention a female celeb has gained weight, it is misandry when...? (Original post)
Bonobo Sep 2012 OP
Behind the Aegis Sep 2012 #1
Bonobo Sep 2012 #2
Behind the Aegis Sep 2012 #3
Bonobo Sep 2012 #4
Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #6
TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #5
4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #11
TreasonousBastard Sep 2012 #12
4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #13
Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #7
Bonobo Sep 2012 #9
ElboRuum Sep 2012 #14
littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #15
Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #8
4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #10

Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:35 AM

1. No one would call it "androgyny" because that isn't the correct word.

It could be "misandry", though I don't believe commenting on women's weight is really misogyny.

("Misandry" isn't in the DU spelling dictionary.)

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:43 AM

2. I fixed it.

I quit smoking this morning and am feeling foggy...

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:44 AM

3. Good for you!

I need to quit. I am working up to it. I will be much more than "foggy" when it happens! LOL! Best of luck!


(ETA: FYI....you need to change it in the body of your message too.)

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #3)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 12:51 AM

4. I have quit many times.

The longest was for 4 years about 3 years back. Since then, my longest was 1 year.

I think you can quit when you are ready. It can't really be done until you decide to do it, and then, it can't really be stopped except by you.

Since quitting smoking is, by definition, a passive activity (all that needs to be done is to NOT smoke), it is definitely do-able.

Please let us know on the forum when you quit, maybe a little support will help.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:37 AM

6. Aw, man, good for you! Hang in there.

I've battled other demons, notably alcohol and crappy food and oh did I mention alcohol, but thankfully nicotine was never something I got into enough to have to kick it.

Fortunately, because I know from those around me who've fought with it, that it's tough.

Anyway, again, good for you!!!!!

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:21 AM

5. No.

According to the latest definition, misogyny includes any mention of anything derogatory about any woman for any reason. It also includes favorable mentions, if those favorable mentions include any mention of physical attractiveness.

There is no such thing as misandry-- men exist to be shamed and ridiculed. Jailed if possible.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:07 AM

11. I would clarify that

 

it is only misogyny when directed against some women.

Those that are deemed insufficiently feminist are fair game and may be labeled stupid sluts as the argument requires.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:17 AM

12. I thought there was no such thing as a slut...

or a stupid woman.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:19 AM

13. I thought so too

 

and then I saw some threads about conservative women on here.

Dress inappropriately and you're a tart or airhead (actual words used).

No old school male chauvinist ever displayed as much hate for women as some (emphasis) feminists display towards women who are deemed traitors to the cause.

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:43 AM

7. Am I the only one who sees the face of the dog from "Adventure Time" on Arnold's stomach?

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:49 AM

9. Thanks. I couldn't before but now I can't stop seeing it. nt

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #7)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 08:33 PM

14. Cannot unsee...

Yep, thanks for that.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:41 AM

15. Nope...

but you MADE me look at Arnold's picture again... and for that I may love you...

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 03:48 AM

8. I also think that if the visual presentation of your personal appearance is a BIG PART OF YOUR JOB

it's a little disingenuous to complain when people talk about the visual presentation of your personal appearance.

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Mon Sep 24, 2012, 10:06 AM

10. In the patriarchy it is impossible to be sexist against men

 

sexism requires power.

So for instance a male paparazzi hoping to make 25k per year off his photos is privileged. The incredibly wealth female celeb he is photographing is a helpless victim with no power (even when she orders her body guards to have the man forcibly removed she is still the helpless victim).

Ergo: it's ok when women do it.

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