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Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:00 PM

A very simple idea about "scam calls". Why do we get so many of them?

Just 2 words... THEY WORK.!!!


...If these kind of calls didn't work, then we would not get any. Scammers know that a large percent will not work. Chances are, those with a lot of experience, know the approximate percent. But if scams did not work some of the time, to get easy money, (even though it is against the law) then experienced people would try something else that gets people's money.

...Not only do these scams work, but the scammers know that if the number of successful people who get scammed are kept down, then very few scammers get caught. Scammers are greedy assholes, and they want..MORE, AND MORE, AND MORE. !!!!!

...So, many go on, and on, and on..and get caught. We read about them. So and so scammed 25,000 and got 4 to 5 million dollars. Those are the ones who get caught. The ones who get away, we do not read about. And some get away because the scams get some money from lots of people, and often people do not report that they have been scammed with some deal or idea that was too good to be true.

..So..IF it sounds too good to be true, it probably is not true.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:12 PM

1. I am amused by scam calls

I have been told that the IRS was going to arrest me and that my social security number was cancelled several times

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:19 PM

2. Yes, I have gotten that one too. Sometimes the scam call is supposed to be from.."The social

security administration"

I have read that the social security administration,..never calls and asks for information.. They always send a letter to your home address. Yes, the social security administration knows your home address, and yes, that organization sends letters.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 09:11 PM

8. If the postman actually delivers them. Mine puts the

important stuff in someone else's box a lot. Never misses w/the junk mail though. Even w/ the Informed Delivery app, stuff marked time sensitive or with return addresses from TPTB were "found" virtually undamaged 3 weeks after scanning...must have fallen through the cracks, yeah - right, more than just a few times - delivery gets better for a while, then back to postal trick or treat again!

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:20 PM

3. Any solicitations done by phone should have to credit you a quarter on your phone bill

Automatically. If you answer a call from a salesperson, their company should have to credit you.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:21 PM

4. That would stop a lot of them. Probably take the "profit" away..

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:40 PM

5. I get so many that I have several ways of dealing with them for my own amusement

Which at least keeps them from scamming others for a while.

I have a fake cardstock credit card in my wallet from a magazine ad. I give them that number then when it doesn't work, I have a reference for when I say things like, "Oh, I switched two of the numbers," or, "That 0 is really a worn-down 8. My apologies." Normally it takes them 3 tries before they start cursing me out, but I kept one guy on the line for 30 minutes, and I ended it by saying, "Look. This has been fun and all, but I've been deliberately wasting your time, and I need to run an errand." I normally get cursed at, but one guy laughed and told me, "Good job!" and another genuinely sounded hurt that I would lie to him.

Best call was when the first guy handed me off to a "manager" because of problems with my account. I had already kept them on the line for five minutes.
Them: Hello, sir. I apologize for the inconvenience. Let's see if we can get things figured out. What is your last name?
Me: Not a problem. I hope you can help. My last name is Keyface.
Them: Yes sir, thank you, sir, Mr. Keyface. And what is the first name on the account?
Me: Don.
Them: Yes sir, thank you. So the name on the account is Don Keyface?
Me: Yes.
10 seconds of silence
Them: You motherfucking asshole.
Me: Figure it out, did you?
*Hangup*

Lately, I haven't had time to play so when I answer, and they ask how I am, I say, "Fine. Listen, I was having sex with your mother for money last night (I say it in more graphic terms), and she said that she's disappointed in what you do for a living." I then play random notes on my harmonica until they hang up.

Immature, probably doesn't make a difference, but I get some schadenfreude out of it.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 07:46 PM

6. Thank you for sharing that information..Nice to know that your way of dealing with them really

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works and keeps them on the line for a while.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 08:17 PM

7. When you have spare time to kill....

When you have spare time to kill....

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How to answer spam phone calls...

Keep asking: What is your name?
... until you get an answer.

What is your company/org name?
... until you get an answer.

What is your company/org address?
... until you get an answer.

What is your company/org phone number?
... until you get an answer.

What number can I get in contact with you?
... until you get an answer.

So what if they lie?
You're just going to hang up on them anyway.
Even better if you say 'sorry, not interested'.
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Their time is also important to them.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 10:25 PM

9. My technique to deal with them is this

My default ringtone is one second of silence, no vibration. My legit contacts have been assigned an audible ringtone, so I'm aware of it if one of them calls me.

Do I miss calls that I might want? Maybe at the time, but if it is a legit call (doctor's office, etc.) they always leave a message. No message, no callback, its that simple.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:31 AM

10. I just got a call from "social security" ..just now, someone was using my number in Texas.

The voice sounded very strange, but when I heard about "Texas" I just hung up.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:42 AM

11. Here is a link to a May 3, 2019 article, (NY Times) on the "Social Security Scam"

Interesting article. One of the main points is that the number of social security scam calls, has greatly increased in the last year. If you have time, please read the entire article. Many good links to get more information on this topic.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/your-money/scam-calls-social-security-irs.html

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2019, 12:10 PM

12. There is another reason why we get so many .."scam calls" - Calling people has become.." VERY CHEAP"

Not just a little cheaper, but a whole lot cheaper..example. ---back in the 50s -(yes I go back that far) a long distance call might cost $1.25 for a 3 minute call..Let us transpose that to a number that take into account .."inflation"..OK?

So a 3 minute call in today's money might cost $1.25 x 6 or a total of $7.50 ..for a 3 minute call...OK?
..............remember a gallon of gas in the 50s was 25-30 cents a gallon.........................................
..............even multiplying by 6 is not enough.............................................................................

So, if a 3 minute call in today's money is $7.50...what is it today? (lots of plans, and the plans are different but..let's take a chance on an idea this idea: the most it would be...........30 cents for 3 minutes or.........10 cents a minute...at most

Most scam calls are not long distance but local. Yes, some are long distance. The scammers live everywhere and are willing to spend the time and money to call someone out of their area if they thin it will work. ..But the bottom line is calling people is much cheaper today than it was 60 years ago. MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, CHEAPER.. and that is another reason we get so many scam calls.

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