Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:09 PM
CalvinballPro (1,019 posts)
Obama unable to begin campaigning for GE due to ongoing primary
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/sanders-reshapes-obamas-2016-plans-221560
Despite his steadily rising popularity, the president’s expected role in 2016 as the Democratic Party unifier is on hold for another three-and-a-half months, if Sanders keeps his campaign going through the July convention.
I know the 2008 primary went long, and I have no right to demand Sanders quit, but I would hope that he could at least think strategically enough to know when to wind it down. Instead, he's ramping up the attacks, which are just going to be used against us later. So disappointing.
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CalvinballPro | Apr 2016 | OP |
SunSeeker | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
liberal N proud | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
kjones | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
Stand and Fight | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
yeoman6987 | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
CalvinballPro | Apr 2016 | #12 | |
yeoman6987 | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
yeoman6987 | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
SunSeeker | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
cosmicone | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
BlueMTexpat | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
BlueMTexpat | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
CalvinballPro | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
BlueMTexpat | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
cosmicone | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
BlueMTexpat | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
Cha | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
Tarheel_Dem | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
CalvinballPro | Apr 2016 | #20 |
Response to CalvinballPro (Original post)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:10 PM
SunSeeker (50,373 posts)
1. Another way Sanders is hurting Dems. nt
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
liberal N proud (60,038 posts)
3. That was my first thought as well
What has BS done for the Democrats?
NOTHING GOOD! |
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:15 PM
kjones (1,053 posts)
6. Spite-er man!
Spite-er man, Spite-er man
Fucks up whatever, in spite, he can |
Response to kjones (Reply #6)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:56 PM
Stand and Fight (7,479 posts)
14. I love you! That's bloody brilliant! LOL
I would make it Spite-Her Man though.
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:16 PM
yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)
7. When did Hillary leave the campaign in '08? I forgot.
I would say that if Bernie can still win the primary then he should stay in. I think they should not use super delegates in the totals right now. In fact for future primaries, I think they should be used at the convention only.
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:29 PM
CalvinballPro (1,019 posts)
12. June 7. But it was a completely different schedule, and some states lost delegates for moving up
the calendar too far. (Michigan.)
The convention that year was in late August. |
Response to CalvinballPro (Reply #12)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:34 PM
yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)
13. Thanks. I would imagine Bernie will assess things in May
after the April primaries.
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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #13)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:13 PM
Tarheel_Dem (31,144 posts)
17. He has already said that he's staying in until CA votes. That's in June. n/t
Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #17)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:16 PM
yeoman6987 (14,449 posts)
18. Oh ok. I hadn't heard that. It's totally his decision.
Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #7)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
SunSeeker (50,373 posts)
15. Did you also forget that Dubya was President in '08?
I don't think the Dem nominee was hurt by Dubya waiting in the wings not being able to campaign for the Dem nominee.
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Response to CalvinballPro (Original post)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
cosmicone (11,014 posts)
2. I think President Obama should just call the election on math
and endorse Hillary to start campaigning.
Bernie is not a democrat and doesn't have the best interests of the party in his mind. He is only for himself. |
Response to cosmicone (Reply #2)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:15 PM
BlueMTexpat (15,210 posts)
5. I can't believe that Prez O will wait much longer
than after the April 26 results, especially if Bernie continues his current tactics.
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Response to CalvinballPro (Original post)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:14 PM
BlueMTexpat (15,210 posts)
4. IMO, his ramping up of attacks on Hillary
as opposed to the GOP shows him as the ordinary politician he truly is, not the person of spotless integrity that he made himself out to be at the beginning.
Bring them on! Hillary's clearly on the high road and her surrogates are not making outlandish or unacceptable statements. This is the much better choice and will serve her well in the GE. |
Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #4)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:17 PM
CalvinballPro (1,019 posts)
8. Hillary really just needs to stick to Obama's 2008 winning strategy: let delegates speak
No one needs to stoop to Sanders' level at this point, because it will only reflect negatively on our candidate. I hope all of her surrogates have gotten word or are just smart enough to know on their own to just maintain, keep calm, and carry on.
"Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." Edit: in the interests of following my own advice, I am trashing GDP. Place makes me so angry I lose my cool too often. |
Response to CalvinballPro (Reply #8)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:23 PM
BlueMTexpat (15,210 posts)
10. I believe that they have received the message.
She's run a classy campaign and is way ahead at this point. There is definitely no need to resort to mudslinging.
But they all should certainly continue to set her record straight when Bernie and his spokepersons distort it or outright lie about it. In the meantime, the Ninas, Cornells, Susans, Tims, etc. continue to make themselves less credible spokespersons - and their candidate less credible as "Mr. Integrity" - literally every time they open their mouths. |
Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #4)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:20 PM
cosmicone (11,014 posts)
9. Bernie has as much to do with integrity
as a snail has to do with speed.
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Response to cosmicone (Reply #9)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:28 PM
BlueMTexpat (15,210 posts)
11. I really didn't believe that
until this past weekend. I'd given him the benefit of the doubt on everything until then.
But deliberately meddling to overturn an official caucus result - even when that deliberate meddling did not change that Hillary still remained the winner and is still WAY ahead in delegates - was the final straw for me. It was the principle. When a candidate holds him/herself to be the most principled, that candidate had better behave in the most principled way. Bernie did not. |
Response to CalvinballPro (Original post)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:07 PM
Cha (289,579 posts)
16. This is "politico" so I'm taking it with salt.. anyway, I'm betting that President Obama
is going to step in at the right time.. and not be dictated by BS dragging anything further down to hurt the Democratic Party.
Thank you for this, Calvin |
Response to CalvinballPro (Original post)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:16 PM
Tarheel_Dem (31,144 posts)
19. As with most things, I trust Pres. Obama's judgement here. There's no point in pissing off a third..
of the party if you don't have to. It makes the job of "bringing us all together" that much harder. I think PBO knows that Democrats prefer Hillary, and folks like Sarandon & Robbins aren't Democrats. In fact, they've gone out of their way to harm Democrats.
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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #19)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 06:18 PM
CalvinballPro (1,019 posts)
20. And I agree, but the more time we have to do that, the better. eom