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After a very good weekend in which fortune fell upon Bernie Sanders like a bird alighting on a podium, you could be forgiven for thinking the Sanders campaign has momentum.
On Saturday, he won Washington states caucus with 72 percent of the vote. He won Hawaiis with 70 percent of the vote. And he won Alaskas with a whopping 82 percent of the vote. This follows victories in Idaho and Utah, where Sanders beat Hillary Clinton with 60-point margins. And if the past is any indication, the Sanders campaign will turn those wins into massive cash donations, fueling his efforts in Wisconsin (which votes next week), New York, and California.
Given his success, his fundraising, and the sheer enthusiasm for his campaign, its easy to look at the past week and believe that Sanders is on the cusp of a new dawnthat soon hell turn a corner toward victory. Dont let anybody tell you we cant win the nomination or win the general election, he told supporters. Were going to do both of those things.
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None of this is to dismiss Sanders or his support. But at this stage, the primary is static. There are states that favor Sanders, and there are states that favor Clinton. The latter hold more pledged delegates than the former. After Nevada, the Sanders campaign pursued a state-win strategy, designed to score as many states as possible. But they didnt need states; they needed delegates. Now, they face a hill thats almost too steep to climb.
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SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)Devine gets paid whether Sanders wins or not. Devine gets paid more the longer Sanders competes. And it's all about Devine getting paid, at this point. If Sanders is running the 2016 version of Clinton's 2008 campaign, Tad Devine would be the Mark Penn character. The shady consultant who is more concerned with his own bottom line than the candidate he was hired to elect.
stopbush
(24,393 posts)Hillary is winning the popular vote, the delegate vote, the state vote and has 10+ times the super delegates as Bernie. The only place he can come close to matching one of Hillary's winning metrics is by winning states. It matters not that he's winning states with low populations and low delegate counts as long as he thinks a claim of "look how may states we're winning" fools people into believing he's surging. It's all about advancing a rationale that the super delegates should switch their votes to him.
It's really pretty pathetic.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Stop posting it.
stopbush
(24,393 posts)Do you have different numbers? If so, post them.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)ANCHORAGE The parking lot at West Anchorage High School was full long before the democratic caucus officially began at 10 a.m. Saturday. By that time, there was a line out the door and around the building for people waiting to show support for their favorite candidate.
In 2008, roughly 2,500 people turned out to the Anchorage caucus. This year, that number was at least 5,000 possibly more according to Jake Hamburg from the Alaska Democratic Party.
Inside the school, the hallways were clogged with people trying to check in. At one point, a marshal with the Anchorage Fire Department came through the building to make sure it wasnt over capacity.
It just seems to be an organizational nightmare and poorly done, said Bernie Sanders supporter Tobias Reynolds.
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Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Delete it.
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stopbush
(24,393 posts)I just looked at the Alaska D party site, and here are the final numbers:
Total voters: 10,610
For Sanders: 8447 (79.56%)
For Clinton: 2144 (20.19%)
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Not going there however.
I swore off GD-P.