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riversedge

(70,182 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:31 AM Mar 2016

Morning Spin: Sanders' Illinois delegate filings may cause ballot problems at polls

The explanation is that in case someone drops out they would be covered. Seems to me to be purposeful confusion





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Morning Spin: Sanders' Illinois delegate filings may cause ballot problems at polls

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-bernie-sanders-illinois-democratic-primary-voting-problem-20160302-story.html


March 3, 2016


A decision by Bernie Sanders’ Illinois campaign to field more than the maximum number of delegate candidates to be chosen in most of the state’s congressional districts could cause some ballot issues for his supporters.

In Illinois, which holds its primary March 15, Democrats will select 102 delegates from congressional districts throughout the state, varying from four to nine per district.


Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton filed the exact number of delegate candidates in each district. But in 12 of the state’s 18 congressional districts, Sanders’ camp filed an additional delegate candidate beyond the number that voters can select.

Though ballots will say how many delegate spots are up for selection in each district, problems could crop up at polling places if Sanders’ supporters try to vote for all of his delegate candidates in those dozen districts and are voting on optically scanned ballots.


Bernie Sanders won his home state of Vermont in the first results of the Super Tuesday elections, the biggest day in the primary campaign. Mar. 1, 2016. (AP)

When the voter enters his ballot to be scanned, the delegate choices will be listed as an “overvote.” That will require voters to either go back and redo all of their ballot choices or forfeit only their choices for presidential delegates.

The problem cannot occur on touch-screen ballots, which prevent overvoting. But voters who cast a ballot by mail in which an overvote occurs will not have their choices for Sanders’ delegates counted...................

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jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
7. Easy, and upsetting at the same time
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

The Sanders campaign has to know it's going to get stomped in Illinois. It is a large state, they use a primary system, they have two communities with significant African-American populations (the Chicago metro area, and East St. Louis), and Hillary grew up in Chicago - all factors which are devastating to Bernie's chances in the state. (I feel like I'm part of the Spanish Inquisition here; the longer I think about Chicago the more reasons I come up with for Bernie losing by fifty percentage points.) They can't win at the ballot box, so their best move is to win in the court of public opinion by making it look like fraud was committed here.

On to Bernie's evil plan. First, go to the twelve districts most likely to break for Bernie - the eight with Republican congressmen plus the four Democratic districts farthest from either Chicago or ESL, is my guess - and file an extra delegate. Encourage his supporters to vote by mail. A LOT of people are going to just mark all the delegates for their candidate. All the ballots with overvotes will be rejected, and since they don't have names on them those voters will be disenfranchised for this election. Then for the next month, claim the "corrupt Chicago political machine" just handed the election to Hillary. It's a pretty slick way of generating faux butthurt and his supporters will love it.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
4. Did they have so little confidence? (Considering the actual voter turnout of ...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016

... his preferred demographic, I think I can see WHY Bernie's campaign would have come to to the conclusion that "extras" may have been needed.)

Though ballots will say how many delegate spots are up for selection in each district, problems could crop up at polling places if Sanders’ supporters try to vote for all of his delegate candidates in those dozen districts and are voting on optically scanned ballots.


Watch for shouts of how the voting is "rigged" because they couldn't vote for more than they were permitted.

Did you see the HOWLS of OUTRAGE from those Bernie fans because a "voter guide" (a political ad) had not included Bernie's name? That made me chuckle. (And it made me wonder, was it faux-outrage? Or did they actually not understand what it was they were looking at?)





Fla Dem

(23,635 posts)
5. OMG The ethically pure Sanders' campaign tried to sneak an extra delegate on their ballot?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

Say it isn't so Bernie.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. More chicanery...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

I'll LMAO if those ballots get spoiled. Now that its out there the Clinton campaign should ask for extra scrutiny. Why would you do this????

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