Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:52 PM

Treant (1,968 posts)

Kos on Wrapping It Up (Hillary Clinton Group)

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/29/1492734/-Democrats-South-Carolina-and-wrapping-up-our-primary-season

This is a wonderful, if sometimes rather harsh on Sanders, evaluation on the way things look right now. His fair cop is a maximum of five states won by Sanders tomorrow. Maximum.

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22 replies	Author	Time	Post
Kos on Wrapping It Up (Hillary Clinton Group) (Original post)	Treant	Feb 2016	OP
it's funny!	Her Sister	Feb 2016	#1
Great post, Treant!	BlueMTexpat	Feb 2016	#2
still reading!	Her Sister	Feb 2016	#3
Whoosh!	peggysue2	Feb 2016	#4
writer doesnt suffer any fools!	Her Sister	Feb 2016	#5
Always liked KOS analytical insite	FloridaBlues	Feb 2016	#6
Good Read!!!!	asuhornets	Feb 2016	#7
KNR Thank you!	Lucinda	Feb 2016	#8
Brutal, but needed.	Loki	Feb 2016	#9
Please cross post this over there	Stuckinthebush	Feb 2016	#10
Abso-frickin'-lutely not.	Treant	Feb 2016	#11
Thanks, Treant!	Stuckinthebush	Feb 2016	#14
That was excellent.	SunSeeker	Feb 2016	#12
A badly needed dose of reality	wysi	Feb 2016	#13
This is the part that should allay any fears about primary turnout being lower than in '08.	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2016	#15
Here' the kicker	Yavin4	Feb 2016	#16
I can't emphasize enough how much I agree with this quote.	Bleacher Creature	Feb 2016	#18
Good advice for any politician or even activist.	Starry Messenger	Feb 2016	#19
Great reality check. nt	UtahLib	Feb 2016	#17
Kick!!!	LAS14	Feb 2016	#20
WOW!!! That was freakin' beautiful!!! nt	Lisa0825	Feb 2016	#21
On point!	Haveadream	Feb 2016	#22

Response to Treant (Original post)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:57 PM

Her Sister (6,444 posts)

1. it's funny!

great! big picture

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:05 PM

BlueMTexpat (15,204 posts)

2. Great post, Treant!

Thanks!

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:08 PM

Her Sister (6,444 posts)

3. still reading!

It is great all the points this writer is making....

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:09 PM

peggysue2 (10,235 posts)

4. Whoosh!

I lurk at DKos. But I recommended that piece. Refreshingly frank. And yes, harsh, the way reality is harsh.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:12 PM

Her Sister (6,444 posts)

5. writer doesnt suffer any fools!

well said

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:16 PM

FloridaBlues (3,814 posts)

6. Always liked KOS analytical insite

Every thing he wrote I really agree with except for endorsements.
I hope Bernie doesn't drag this out much longer than March 30.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:17 PM

asuhornets (2,405 posts)

7. Good Read!!!!

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:21 PM

Lucinda (30,969 posts)

8. KNR Thank you!

Kos laid it out well. Thanks much!

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:38 PM

Loki (3,823 posts)

9. Brutal, but needed.

I like the quote" don't forget the big picture." That's what we are here for, for all Americans, not just one's that look just like we do. People of color, the poor, the disabled, the ill, hungry, struggling millions of everyday people who want a better life for themselves and their families. It will never happen in a Republican admin., and all you have to look at is states like Kansas, or Flint, Michigan, or Ferguson, Missouri, the list goes on and on and on. This is not a sprint, its a marathon and we are all in it for the long haul.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:41 PM

Stuckinthebush (10,779 posts)

10. Please cross post this over there

Please. (But don't get pulled into arguments)!

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:44 PM

Treant (1,968 posts)

11. Abso-frickin'-lutely not.

I have an embargo of Over There until at least tomorrow night--and possibly March 15th.

However, this is a public post of a public article, so anybody who wants to can certainly post it anywhere they want. I don't own it and I won't be at all bothered. Neither will Kos if you include the link.

Just give us a link to that posting in GD-P so we can follow along and laugh (at least those of us who aren't embargoing the place!)

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Response to Treant (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:09 PM

Stuckinthebush (10,779 posts)

14. Thanks, Treant!

You made me guffaw!

I might get the courage and do it. I just know I'll spend a lot of time fielding stupid comments. sigh.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:47 PM

SunSeeker (50,336 posts)

12. That was excellent.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:50 PM

wysi (1,509 posts)

13. A badly needed dose of reality

I really enjoyed reading that while drinking my mornng coffee.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:19 PM

Tarheel_Dem (31,144 posts)

15. This is the part that should allay any fears about primary turnout being lower than in '08.

•There is no correlation between primary turnout and general election performance. Fact is, Democrats have long assumed (correctly) that Clinton would be the nominee, so there has been less impetus to vote than in the GOP civil war. In fact, the lower-than-expected turnout is an indictment on the Sanders campaign, because despite all the talk of revolution, fact is, he hasn’t inspired casual Democrats to turn out in any real numbers.

I've heard a lot of "concern" by certain talking heads about lower turnout among Dems as opposed to record turnout for Repukes. This singular quote puts that all in perspective AFAIC. I'm not worried about GE turnout now.

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:48 PM

Yavin4 (34,694 posts)

16. Here' the kicker

Sanders’ problem was the presence of someone with universal name ID and huge respect in the party, and who was explicitly running on continuing the legacy of a popular incumbent Democratic president. What if Sanders had started laying the groundwork for a run two years ago, spending time getting to know voters in black and Latino communities? What if he’d become a Democrat earlier and spent time helping other good Democrats win (like Elizabeth Warren has been doing since elected to the Senate)? Maybe things would be different. But you don’t get to parachute into a party less than a year before the first contest and expect to win huge swath of support.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/29/1492734/-Democrats-South-Carolina-and-wrapping-up-our-primary-season

You cannot just decide to be a Democrat in one year and get its party nomination for president in the same damn year!!!

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Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:27 PM

Bleacher Creature (11,160 posts)