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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:24 AM Feb 2016

Winners and losers from the South Carolina Democratic primary (Hillary Group)

Source: Washington Post by Aaron Blake

WINNERS

Hillary Clinton: No, this win was not unexpected, but it is still a win for Clinton — and it appears to be an absolute drubbing. She has now won two straight states, and she is clearly the momentum candidate heading into Super Tuesday — which is, after all, just three days away. The question from here is whether Clinton can begin to put the race away in short order or if Sanders can hang around somehow — despite increasingly daunting delegate math. That’s a far different conversation than we were having after Clinton got blown out in the New Hampshire primary two and a half weeks ago.

Black voters: Eight years after South Carolina sent Barack Obama further on his way to becoming the first black president, black voters sent a message Saturday that was loud and clear: We aren't going anywhere. Early exit poll numbers suggest the black share of the electorate could hit a new record — about 6 in 10 voters in Saturday's primary. That would exceed even the percentage in 2008, when the eventual first black president was on the ballot. That record turnout comes after a South Carolina campaign that was focused intently on wooing black voters — even more so than in 2008. The combination of those two things mean black voters just asserted themselves as a real force in 2016.


LOSERS

Bernie Sanders: We pretty much knew this wasn't going to be close, but it turned into a disaster for Sanders. Yes, it's one state, but Sanders had one task here: To beat expectations when it comes to black voters. He didn't do that -- at all. He lost their votes a whopping 87-13, according to the most recent exit polls. A while back, a top Sanders adviser mused that he could win South Carolina with 30 percent of the black vote; that proved to be a foolhardy goal. And it's not just that black voters like Clinton better; they didn't seem to trust Sanders either. Just 52 percent said they would trust Sanders to handle race relations. Nearly 9 in 10 said the same of Clinton.

*****

Young voters: At this rate, all future candidates might as well give up on trying to build a campaign around the support of young people. Despite tens of thousands of people showing up to Sanders rallies, and young people favoring him overwhelmingly so far, they just aren't showing up to vote like he needs them to. Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern of young people just not giving Sanders the turnout he needs. In fact, young voters were less of the electorate there than in any of the first three states


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Winners and losers from the South Carolina Democratic primary (Hillary Group) (Original Post) yallerdawg Feb 2016 OP
Yes, Hillary was handed a victory, thanks for the hard work and voters of SC. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #1
I like that History, T! Hillary was handed a Blow-Out! Cha Feb 2016 #4
Sanders thinks he is building a movement. If young people are following him, but don't show up to livetohike Feb 2016 #2
He says he wants a REVOLUUUUTION! Surya Gayatri Feb 2016 #16
There was another 'revolution.' yallerdawg Feb 2016 #17
Nike made that deal with Michael Jackson (who owned the song's rights at the time) oberliner Feb 2016 #19
Maybe Madeline Albright was right? Are these "rallies" a chance to hook up? If that's the case.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2016 #24
I believe that was Gloria Steinem? Still, maybe the low turnout has everything to do with some BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #29
Losers.. Cha Feb 2016 #3
Cha! yallerdawg Feb 2016 #5
Why would they trust him? He wanted President Obama primaried in 2012 for Cha Feb 2016 #7
"I didn't see Bernie!" yallerdawg Feb 2016 #9
And leftofcool and cosmicone! yallerdawg Feb 2016 #8
And, stopbush and bravenak, Sheepshank, pnwmom, Mohraktah, DanTex..& the ones I haven't thought of.. Cha Feb 2016 #11
Yes, to the too many on "temporary sabbatical"! yallerdawg Feb 2016 #14
I don't drink but could I come to the party? spooky3 Feb 2016 #18
Of course, spooky. You drink something don't you? lol Cha Feb 2016 #20
I don't drink, either. yallerdawg Feb 2016 #21
Yum! And Cha, :-), yes, I'll take coffee and water with that! spooky3 Feb 2016 #23
Me Too Spooky! charlyvi Feb 2016 #27
Wow! I lift my glass to you! spooky3 Feb 2016 #28
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #6
Millenials lol GusBob Feb 2016 #10
Until they allow folks to Instagram their vote using their XBox controller ... LannyDeVaney Feb 2016 #12
And don't plan a revolution... yallerdawg Feb 2016 #13
K&R! DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #15
They forgot to MSMITH33156 Feb 2016 #22
K&R. nt UtahLib Feb 2016 #25
"Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern". misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #26
Here's a MASSIVE problem for the burn... jmowreader Feb 2016 #30

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Yes, Hillary was handed a victory, thanks for the hard work and voters of SC.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:31 AM
Feb 2016

SC has been picking winners, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama won in this state.

livetohike

(22,138 posts)
2. Sanders thinks he is building a movement. If young people are following him, but don't show up to
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:42 AM
Feb 2016

vote, exactly what kind of movement is it?

They are not motivated to vote. Are they motivated to write their Representatives/ call their Representatives.

What is he asking they do? Or is this just all about him and his ego?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
16. He says he wants a REVOLUUUUTION!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:31 AM
Feb 2016


You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. There was another 'revolution.'
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:49 AM
Feb 2016

Remember when this song was used by Nike to sell shoes on TV?

Who would have thought the Beatles would be reduced to TV jingle artists?

And now pop rock sells us politicians!



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. Nike made that deal with Michael Jackson (who owned the song's rights at the time)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:49 AM
Feb 2016

The surviving Beatles sued them for using the song without their permission.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
24. Maybe Madeline Albright was right? Are these "rallies" a chance to hook up? If that's the case....
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

couldn't they do that just as well elsewhere? Were the huge rallies just meant to create an illusion? If so, it hasn't panned out. And if winter break has already started, college turnout may be even for worse for BS.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. I believe that was Gloria Steinem? Still, maybe the low turnout has everything to do with some
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:19 PM
Feb 2016

big party event young students would flock to elsewhere? I thought I heard something like that on cable tv.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
3. Losers..
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:45 AM
Feb 2016
LOSERS

Bernie Sanders: We pretty much knew this wasn't going to be close, but it turned into a disaster for Sanders. Yes, it's one state, but Sanders had one task here: To beat expectations when it comes to black voters. He didn't do that -- at all. He lost their votes a whopping 87-13, according to the most recent exit polls. A while back, a top Sanders adviser mused that he could win South Carolina with 30 percent of the black vote; that proved to be a foolhardy goal. And it's not just that black voters like Clinton better; they didn't seem to trust Sanders either. Just 52 percent said they would trust Sanders to handle race relations. Nearly 9 in 10 said the same of Clinton.


Yeah, Hillary has won the last two states.. and the last 3 out of 4!

yallerdawg!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. Why would they trust him? He wanted President Obama primaried in 2012 for
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:52 AM
Feb 2016

cripe sake!

yallerdawg

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. "I didn't see Bernie!"
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:56 AM
Feb 2016

You have to build trust.

And it can't be built on someone else's Republican propaganda. Democrats aren't buying that!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
11. And, stopbush and bravenak, Sheepshank, pnwmom, Mohraktah, DanTex..& the ones I haven't thought of..
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:58 AM
Feb 2016
Yet!

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
21. I don't drink, either.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:41 AM
Feb 2016

But I do the heck out of toast!

With eggs. bacon, waffles - and smothered and covered hash browns!

 

LannyDeVaney

(1,033 posts)
12. Until they allow folks to Instagram their vote using their XBox controller ...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:00 AM
Feb 2016

the under-30 turnout will be low this election.



misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
26. "Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern".
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:16 PM
Feb 2016
"Fewer than 1 in 6 voters in South Carolina were under the age of the 30. And it follows a pattern of young people" 

They're not buying the free stuff anymore.
Bernies ralleys have the same effect as a rock concert.
They don't just gather en masse for the music. Its the crowd, the after party and the social media clicking & liking, after the fact.

And with half of them heading out this week for Spring Break, the election will have to wait till they return and their bank cards are being used for something other than political donations to bernie sanders.

His claim of youth voters is b.s. As is his "revoluuuushon"



jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
30. Here's a MASSIVE problem for the burn...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:24 PM
Feb 2016
Just 52 percent said they would trust Sanders to handle race relations.


Isn't this the guy who loves black people so much he was willing to go to jail to give them freedom and civil rights and shit?
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