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Looks like there is another video! (Original Post) leftofcool Feb 2016 OP
Please post this in GDP workinclasszero Feb 2016 #1
Nothing will stop them Rose Siding Feb 2016 #2
Facts mean nothing workinclasszero Feb 2016 #3
Bueno.. Delores Huerta does not lie! Cha Feb 2016 #4
Hmm bluestateguy Feb 2016 #5
Not surprising. They were trying to use one snippet of vid to make her appear to be lying. Lucinda Feb 2016 #6
Think I watched the right video jsmirman Feb 2016 #7
What we have here is a noisy caucus situation stopbush Feb 2016 #8
Here's an insightful interview with Delores Huerta from the WaPo.. Cha Feb 2016 #11
I thought that Snopes video was rather abruptly cut at 22 seconds. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #9
Here's insightful interview from the Wapo, SunSeeker.. Cha Feb 2016 #12
Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #15
It's working for Hillary, 1Strong.. the money quote from Delores Huerta.. Cha Feb 2016 #16
Yes ... She does. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #17
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #10
She had already been thrown under the bus of course she was smeared. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #13
Of course they deny it happened. DemonGoddess Feb 2016 #14
Hell, they're still claiming their campaign didn't steal data. displacedtexan Feb 2016 #18

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
2. Nothing will stop them
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:35 AM
Feb 2016

This won't -though it's clearer that someone in the back (not the moderator in front) was saying "in English only"

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
5. Hmm
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:51 AM
Feb 2016

Pretty explicit there.

BUT, it seems to have been a woman, so perhaps I was wrong to say that the speaker of those words was a "Bernie Bro". So I'll apologize, but only for getting the gender of the bigot wrong.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
6. Not surprising. They were trying to use one snippet of vid to make her appear to be lying.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:53 AM
Feb 2016

No context, no idea where in the process that earlier vid came from. I'm not surprised to see that there was more video.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
7. Think I watched the right video
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:17 AM
Feb 2016

Someone in the crowd said "Bernie is english only"

but I couldn't quite figure out the context?

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
8. What we have here is a noisy caucus situation
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 03:18 AM
Feb 2016

where one can clearly hear the words "English only" being yelled. In the earlier portion of the video you can hear people saying "no."

Could it possibly be that every body is right and nobody is right? How the hell is a person standing on stage to know exactly which side is saying what? Could it be that there was no intent to make the Bernie people look bad and that no one is lying here?

Were people being disrespectful? Perhaps. But it's a caucus, which is a situation that was new to many of the people in that room. People are jockeying for position and votes. It's isn't high tea.

You know, somebody yelling "Bernie is English only" could mean nothing more than "that's OK, this side of the room doesn't need a translator." That would make sense if the worry was that a pro-Hillary partisan was going to give bad info to Bernie's Latino supporters in the room.

If this is the worst thing that happened today in NV it's really a tempest in a teapot.

Cha

(297,160 posts)
11. Here's an insightful interview with Delores Huerta from the WaPo..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:27 AM
Feb 2016
Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.


snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/

I'm going with her version.. the bernbros haven't earned my trust.. she has.

Gracias~



SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
9. I thought that Snopes video was rather abruptly cut at 22 seconds.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 04:14 AM
Feb 2016

Now I know why. A woman in the longer video plainly shouts "Bernie is English only!"

Cha

(297,160 posts)
12. Here's insightful interview from the Wapo, SunSeeker..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 06:28 AM
Feb 2016
Dolores Huerta says she was shouted down with ‘English-only’ chants from a Sanders crowd

snip//

Two sources — both of whom are neutral and not affiliated with the Sanders or Clinton campaigns — told BuzzFeed News that it happened the way Huerta described.


snip//

Well, something just happened in Las Vegas that might really and truly challenge that. Dolores Huerta, longtime civil rights and farm-labor activist as well as a confidant of the late Cesar Chavez, tweeted this Saturday night from a Nevada caucus location:

And unfortunately for Sanders's supporters, there's video that at the very least backs up Huerta's claims that there was an awful lot of shouting and hissing while she was on stage at a Nevada caucus location. A caucus organizer had called for an interpreter willing to explain the process and latest updates to Spanish-speaking or Spanish-dominant caucusgoers. Huerta, clad in a Clinton campaign t-shirt, volunteered.

You can see in the video up above that wasn't so well received. Some sanders supporters may have been disturbed by the idea of a Clinton supporter interpreting events for the entire crowd. But, that alone can not explain all that Huerta said she heard from the crowd.

"It was mostly the organizers," Huerta continued, "the Bernie organizers were shouting 'no no no.' Then a Bernie person stood up and said said no, we need to have it, I can also do translation or whatever. The person who ran the caucus said, well we won’t have a translator. The sad thing about this is that some of the organizers were shouting 'English only! English only!' The Bernie organizers."

snip//

Now, Huerta is a woman in her mid-80s. So any kind of shouting or hissing required a special kind of temerity to begin with. But for those not in the know, Huerta is about as close to a living legend in Latino civil rights circles and labor activism as they come.

MOre~ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/20/dolores-huerta-says-she-was-shouted-down-with-english-only-chants-from-a-sanders-crowd/

Gracias~

That doesn't make sense.. "Bernie is English only"?


 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. Wow ...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:17 AM
Feb 2016

I guess the "cross-over" out-reach is working! We're getting folks participating in Democratic politics back that haven't voted Democratic since the good old 1960s.

Cha

(297,160 posts)
16. It's working for Hillary, 1Strong.. the money quote from Delores Huerta..
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:42 AM
Feb 2016
"It’s kind of a crash-and-burn strategy. If we can’t have it our way then we can’t have it at all," Huerta said. "I think that definitely Mr. Sanders should talk to his people. They are very aggressive, they are very belligerent in all our encounters that we’ve had with them. I think he needs to talk to his people and say you’ve got to show some respect. Its not about attacking the other side, it’s about getting our message out to people. Even when we go against Republicans, we need to be respectful."

She definitely has their number.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
14. Of course they deny it happened.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:11 AM
Feb 2016

You know, admitting that his supporters at that rally behaved abominably, for starters. They won't even admit to THAT. Instead, they insist that Ms. Huerta is hearing things and making things up. Y'know, because St. Bernie's apostles couldn't possibly be asshats. Nope.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
18. Hell, they're still claiming their campaign didn't steal data.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 01:35 PM
Feb 2016

I read that in the comments when I followed the link to the videos.

Truly heavy sigh.

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