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Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:40 AM

WP Editors dispute Sanders' response to their editorial

Hillary has weathered disagreements with the press for a long time and come out little worse for the wear. Now that the media is spending time on vetting Bernie -they waited too long to do it!- some of them aren't liking what they see.

Bernie Sanders’s ideas are not too bold. They are too facile.

‘IF THE Washington Post wants to say that our ideas are bold, I accept that,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said Thursday in response to a critical editorial we ran about him. “We’ve got to create an economy that works for the middle class. And whether The Washington Post likes it or not, that’s what I intend to do.”

In fact, we would love that — and we were heartened that Mr. Sanders chose to engage with our editorial. Yet our disagreements with Mr. Sanders are not as he portrayed them; they do not concern the problems he chooses to address or the boldness with which he proposes to address them. The nation could use big measures to take on climate change, advance public health, tackle poverty, shore up entitlement programs, boost education, improve our democracy and do all sorts of other things that Mr. Sanders cares about. We argue for policies such as a carbon tax and public campaign financing, even though they are subject to massive and possibly insurmountable political opposition, because they would lead to large and needed changes.

What concerns us is not that Mr. Sanders’s program to tackle these issues is “radical,” as he put it, but that it is not very well thought out. We are far from the only ones, for example, to point out that his health-care plan rests on unbelievable assumptions about how much he could slash health-care costs without affecting the care ordinary Americans receive. “Their savings numbers are — well, politely said — simply wrong,” Emory University health-care expert Kenneth E. Thorpe told Vox. Mr. Thorpe, who is not hostile to single-payer systems of the type Mr. Sanders favors and has even advanced single-payer plans of his own, released an analysis Wednesday finding that Mr. Sanders’s proposal would cost $1 trillion more than the candidate estimated. That is not over a 10-year budget window. That is every year...................

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mr-sanderss-ideas-are-not-too-bold-they-are-too-facile/2016/01/28/e7125bca-c60a-11e5-9693-933a4d31bcc8_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory


The word is tailor made for the argument:

fac·ile
ˈfasəl/Submit
adjective
1.
(especially of a theory or argument) appearing neat and comprehensive only by ignoring the true complexities of an issue; superficial.
synonyms: simplistic, superficial, oversimplified

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Reply WP Editors dispute Sanders' response to their editorial (Original post)
Rose Siding Jan 2016 OP
NurseJackie Jan 2016 #1
workinclasszero Jan 2016 #2
kjones Jan 2016 #4
workinclasszero Jan 2016 #5
pandr32 Jan 2016 #3
Molusko Jan 2016 #6
jmowreader Jan 2016 #7
BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #8
BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #9
Tommy2Tone Jan 2016 #10
Cha Jan 2016 #11
William769 Jan 2016 #12
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2016 #13
Fla Dem Jan 2016 #14

Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:46 AM

1. And they did an excellent job.

Instead of sitting back and allowing the Sanders campaign's efforts to try an neutralize the editorial; and instead of allowing them to re-frame the criticism without being challenged; the WP editorial staff felt strongly enough about Bernie's response that they doubled-down and re-emphasized their views on the aspects of Bernie's plans about which they are most troubled.

Good for them!!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:48 AM

2. Bernie is the candy man riding in on his rainbow unicorn

 

to bring salvation to us all, blessed be his name!

Bernie is selling pie in the sky with no real plans on how to do it or who pays what for it either.

We are just supposed to switch off our brains, fall at his feet and worship him, all you tools of the 1%!

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:35 AM

4. Pie in the sky

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Response to kjones (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:38 AM

5. Perfect lol

 

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:59 AM

3. Sanders is superficial

and that is a problem

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:11 PM

6. Sanders needs to explain how

 

He will implement and pass his plans.

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Response to Molusko (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:04 PM

7. I don't think he actually knows

According to the Bernie Brigade, Congress will be falling over itself lining up to work with him.

Dude! They don't work with him NOW!

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Response to Molusko (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:55 PM

8. Good luck with that.

He's been asked time and again to do that, but time and again, he's refused. He's not into the "nitty-gritty" of stuffy legislative shhh...stuff. It distracts him from him having fun pretending to be the second coming.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:59 PM

9. “Their savings numbers are — well, politely said — simply wrong,”

Emory University health-care expert, Kenneth E. Thorpe, told Vox. Mr. Thorpe, who is not hostile to single-payer systems of the type Mr. Sanders favors and has even advanced single-payer plans of his own, released an analysis Wednesday finding that Mr. Sanders’s proposal would cost $1 trillion more than the candidate estimated. That is not over a 10-year budget window. That is every year...


Every year?? Holy smokes.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:15 PM

10. Finally they are starting to look into the details

It's about time.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:04 PM

11. Yeah, yeah, yeah, bernie.. whatever.

Thank you, Rose!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 07:50 PM

12. Kick & highly recommended!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:05 PM

13. "fac·ile". Sums up his entire campaign, and "ju·ve·nile" sums up the Berniebros quite nicely.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 10:39 AM

14. Couldn't read article, reached my limit for free articles this month. Don't remember accessing

WP that much this month. They don't say how many free articles you get. Oh well, I get the drift.

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