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Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:20 AM

Sanders new found support for the republican witch hunt

against Hillary,especially after her stunning smack down at the Benghazi hearings,isn't going to play well with the democratic base.Mark my words,his campaign has made a serious miscalculation.


http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-hillary-email-215548

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Reply Sanders new found support for the republican witch hunt (Original post)
sufrommich Nov 2015 OP
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #1
workinclasszero Nov 2015 #2
riversedge Nov 2015 #4
PatrynXX Nov 2015 #33
Cha Nov 2015 #42
Nitram Nov 2015 #60
Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #65
Nitram Nov 2015 #81
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #92
riversedge Nov 2015 #61
Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #87
Sheepshank Nov 2015 #110
Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #113
Walk away Nov 2015 #116
Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #64
Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #66
Cha Nov 2015 #67
Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #74
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #84
workinclasszero Nov 2015 #91
riversedge Nov 2015 #3
workinclasszero Nov 2015 #11
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #86
Cha Nov 2015 #15
enid602 Nov 2015 #26
VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #85
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #93
OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #5
workinclasszero Nov 2015 #7
Cha Nov 2015 #10
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #114
Cha Nov 2015 #115
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #117
upaloopa Nov 2015 #6
riversedge Nov 2015 #102
greatlaurel Nov 2015 #8
Name removed Nov 2015 #9
Cha Nov 2015 #12
Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #68
Cha Nov 2015 #70
William769 Nov 2015 #18
William769 Nov 2015 #20
stupidicus Nov 2015 #25
Cha Nov 2015 #41
William769 Nov 2015 #45
Duval Nov 2015 #44
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #58
Cha Nov 2015 #73
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #57
GusBob Nov 2015 #13
mcar Nov 2015 #14
William769 Nov 2015 #16
Cha Nov 2015 #23
William769 Nov 2015 #24
Cha Nov 2015 #27
msrizzo Nov 2015 #49
enid602 Nov 2015 #28
Cha Nov 2015 #29
William769 Nov 2015 #31
Cha Nov 2015 #17
riversedge Nov 2015 #19
Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #103
riversedge Nov 2015 #109
riversedge Nov 2015 #21
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #22
riversedge Nov 2015 #38
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #48
NurseJackie Nov 2015 #30
sufrommich Nov 2015 #32
relayerbob Nov 2015 #37
riversedge Nov 2015 #40
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #50
katmille Nov 2015 #106
GusBob Nov 2015 #34
NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #35
Cha Nov 2015 #36
relayerbob Nov 2015 #39
Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #43
Schock Nov 2015 #46
modestybl Nov 2015 #47
Cha Nov 2015 #52
ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #53
riversedge Nov 2015 #59
shenmue Nov 2015 #69
johnp3907 Nov 2015 #108
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #112
ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #51
zalinda Nov 2015 #54
MrWendel Nov 2015 #56
Cha Nov 2015 #75
Cha Nov 2015 #62
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #63
BainsBane Nov 2015 #99
Gothmog Nov 2015 #55
misterhighwasted Nov 2015 #83
Reptilublican Nov 2015 #71
Cha Nov 2015 #72
liberal N proud Nov 2015 #76
Agschmid Nov 2015 #77
postatomic Nov 2015 #78
Herman4747 Nov 2015 #79
tishaLA Nov 2015 #80
Cha Nov 2015 #82
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #101
sheshe2 Nov 2015 #107
BainsBane Nov 2015 #88
Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #89
Cha Nov 2015 #90
Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #97
Cha Nov 2015 #98
Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #100
Cha Nov 2015 #104
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #94
riversedge Nov 2015 #95
SunSeeker Nov 2015 #96
Rose Siding Nov 2015 #119
McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #105
Tarheel_Dem Nov 2015 #111
Gloria Nov 2015 #118
Walk away Nov 2015 #120

Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:21 AM

1. decided to go down in flames I see....

 

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:25 AM

2. Totally agree

 

How can anyone claim to be a democrat (Bernie? see my siggy) then dogpile on Hillary with Trey Gowdy and the republican witch hunting committee?

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:27 AM

4. Dem leaders in Congress have called to shut down this committee but now

Sanders says--hey OK--unimpeded. whow.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:35 AM

33. oh yes now the bullies pile on

Hillary Supporters showing their natural colors ho hum, nothing to see here he gives her a boost then she attacks him. Seems only fair

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:14 PM

42. You have that Exactly wrong. bernie and the repubs are piling on Hillary with the damn bogus

emails.

There's the "bullies" you're bringing up.

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:48 PM

60. Be real, Pat, this is a total flip-flop on Bernie's part, and a renig of his promise...

...not to fight dirty. Sanders just lost all claim to either the moral high ground or superior honesty and sincerity.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #60)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:10 PM

65. Please answer:

 

1 What promise did he reneg on?
2 How is he fighting dirty?
3 What is so egregious that Bernie can never again claim moral high ground, honesty, and sincerity.

Talk about out exaggerations!

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #65)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:52 PM

81. 1. He promised not to go negative. Supporting the GOP witch hunt is as negative as you can get.

2. He supports the present GOP initiated and GOP-led investigation of Banghazi that has proved to be entirely political.

3. He reneged on his promise not to go negative, he is giving aid and support to the enemy, flip-flopped following a very well-received "we're tired of the emails" statement. Or else he made that statement to draw further attention to the issues, which would be worse.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #65)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:40 PM

92. Throwing support behind a republican witch hunt is about as bad as it gets. nt.

 

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:49 PM

61. Who are you calling bullies??

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:19 PM

87. Bullies??

There's only one group and one politician here showing their natural color--yellow. Believe me, Sanders just took a nosedive into the spiral jetty of suck. Absolutely no one cared about this issue, and his resurrecting it again just makes him look petty.

No wonder no one in the CPC wants anything to do with endorsing him. He must be a real peach to work with.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #87)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:08 PM

110. "Sanders just took a nosedive into the spiral jetty of suck"

 

welp...that just said it all.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #110)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:23 PM

113. Still can't believe he thought this was a winning move.

Ugh. X(

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:59 PM

116. Please! Bernie the Windbag was too slow getting to his ranting point about his blah blah being....

more important than Hillary's emails and how bad that they are distracting from his same old Blah Blah Blah!

She gamed him with a hand shake and a smile. He is not known as a particularly generous person by the people he works with. And he's a little slow when he isn't talking about his same old Bernie Blah Blah Blah.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:07 PM

64. Easy, he's not a democrat.

He's an independent who found it convenient to play one for the election. He will go back to being an independent when he if officially eliminated from the race.

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #64)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:11 PM

66. No, because he will be President of the US.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #66)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:12 PM

67. No. he. won't. this is Hillary's Group.. you can keep your campaignig for BS outside.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #66)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:23 PM

74. Yea keep believing that if it makes you feel better.

nt

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #64)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:11 PM

84. EXACTLY

 

its weasly!

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Response to Tommy2Tone (Reply #64)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:37 PM

91. You are right

 

of course.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:25 AM

3. Sanders, in tonal shift, backs investigation of Clinton emails. This is an outright flip-flop--more

than a 'tonal shift" But I think his new pollster has miscalculated---!!!




Sanders, in tonal shift, backs investigation of Clinton emails

By Nick Gass

11/05/15 07:34 AM EST


In his most explicit critique of Hillary Clinton's email controversy to date, Democratic presidential rival Bernie Sanders told The Wall Street Journal that if the former secretary of state skirted public-records requests or compromised classified information, concerns about the issue are "valid questions."

Asked whether he regretted his remark that the American people are sick of hearing about her "damn emails" during the last debate, Sanders said in the Wednesday interview that he did not and that the investigation should "proceed unimpeded."

“You get 12 seconds to say these things,” the senator explained. “There’s an investigation going on right now. I did not say, ‘End the investigation.’ That’s silly." ...

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-hillary-email-215548#ixzz3qcw91Kqj

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:30 AM

11. Total flip flop

 

I guess Bernie's weathervane met a strong republican wind eh?

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:12 PM

86. and they call that wind....

 

desperation!

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:33 AM

15. And it went so well for bernie and the repubs when Benghazi hearings happened.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:20 AM

26. Sanders

Sanders does this at his own peril. He becomes one of 'them.'

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:11 PM

85. I guess he is suddenly NOT tired of talking about Hillary's emails after all!

 

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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #85)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:40 PM

93. LOL

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:27 AM

5. He's evolving.

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Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:28 AM

7. Yup

 

Throw away your halo St. Bernie, its ever so tarnished now.

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:30 AM

10. #berniesopure

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Response to Cha (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:26 PM

114. #berniesopure



Cha,

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #114)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:49 PM

115. I made that up.

Is there any wonder why?!

Thank you, BlueCali, backatcha!

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Response to Cha (Reply #115)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:16 PM

117. I know. Beautifully done, Cha!

That's why

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:27 AM

6. Those things he says about Hillary are getting old. We all heard them and we have all made up our

minds about them. I don't see anything new here.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:21 PM

102. He adds the word

--courageous --to lots of things now.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:29 AM

8. This is good, it lets HRC find out the best way to counter this type of attack.

You know we will see it in the General Election. Bernie is really helping HRC hone her messages, while at the same time getting some air time from the corporate media for progressive ideas. This is a brilliant campaign strategy. The only way the corporate creeps would allow any progressive idea air time is to use these ideas against Hillary. Perhaps I should not put that out there or the corporate toads will stop even that little bit of truth to air. This is going to make HRC a steamroller to crush the GOP next fall.

Go Hillary!

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:32 AM

12. Well it's not valid so he's being disingenous again. And, this is Hillary's group.. we're not here

argue with BS fans. there's the whole rest of the board for that.

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Response to Cha (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:12 PM

68. You say it's not valid? Do you consult with the FBI on such things, or are you "OUT OF THE LOOP?"

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #68)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:17 PM

70. Get a clue.. the FBI is not investigating Hillary. I already told you this is Hillary's Group since

you haven't noticed yet.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:37 AM

18. I agree with that.

Don't you agree what is it now 3 years and 12 investigations that it's pretty much beating a dead horse now?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:46 AM

20. Since you don't want to answer.

Have a nice day.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:12 AM

25. that would be wholly unsurprising

 

given the many things they are willing to give her a pass on -- warmongering, anti-singlepayer, etc, etc, etc, surely she shouldn't be bothered with investigations whether reasonably warranted or not.

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Response to stupidicus (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:11 PM

41. Single payer couldn't even get passed in Vermont. Hillary's on board with Pres Obama's Iran Deal

so there's no "warmongering".

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Response to stupidicus (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:16 PM

45. There is a difference between a witch hunt and an investigation.

There have already been numerous investigations to no avail. They don't like the outcome, they start another one. That's a witch hunt.

Have a Great Hillary day!

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:15 PM

44. I don't disagree.

 

If there is nothing there there, what's the problem? If there is, we need to know. What is downright silly is this flipping fight between Bernie and Hillary supporters. Really, guys, we want a Democrat in the White House. I believe Bernie has time to make his voice heard in the next several months. People like his message. But, I'll vote for Hillary should she become the nominee.

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Response to Duval (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:47 PM

58. His voice was heard in the debate, and his numbers dropped.

And after EIGHT investigations have dug up nothing on Hillary, you see "no problem" in continuing this expensive, divisive witch hunt? Really? Most Dems disagree with you.

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Response to Duval (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:22 PM

73. "We need to know".. yeah that's what the republicons say.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:42 PM

57. What the fuck is left to be investigated? There have been 8 investigations!

All have cleared Hillary. This is now a witch hunt. Period.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:32 AM

13. Oh it was just a sound bite for the debate

I get that actually.

What I also get: a years-long GOP-led investigation of a Democrat should drag on. I REALLY get that.

A regular maverick, that one

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:33 AM

14. A big mistake

Especially after his debate statement.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:34 AM

16. His campaign was over before it even started.

Wasn't it his wife that said he wasn't running to win but to get his agenda out there? I wonder how his supporters feel about that.

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Response to William769 (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:07 AM

23. I don't know.. but his wife said this and it's untrue..

"He’s doing what he aimed to do,” she gushed a few days after it was over. “The last election the candidates didn’t talk about inequality, they didn’t talk about fairness, they didn’t talk about climate change. He’s setting the agenda. That’s what it’s about.”

http://news.gnom.es/news/being-married-to-bernie

She musta been asleep.. Bernie isn't setting shite..

How fighting income inequality became Obama’s driving force

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/how-fighting-income-inequality-became-obamas-driving-force/2012/11/23/ab375434-3256-11e2-9cfa-e41bac906cc9_story.html

Obama: Climate change a 2012 issue

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/obama-climate-change-will-be-a-campaign-issue-075590

Rose Siding

#berniesopure

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Response to Cha (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:10 AM

24. Sounds just like their supporters.

Dishonest.

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Response to William769 (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:24 AM

27. I can't figure out why on Earth they lie about things that are so easy to check.

Unless they all think they're coated with teflon.

Nobody in that crowd wants to give President Obama any credit.. and now they're supporting the rwinger's craven email witchhunt against Hillary!?

Tad must have seen the poll numbers and unlike their fans took them seriously enough to try something desperate.

Remember Bernie.. "everyone's tired of hearing about the damn emails!"

It was reported that Bernie meant to diss Hillary at the debate with that email line.. but, Hillary thanked him for it and turned it around. LOL

Course his fans wouldn't hear of that.. #berniesopure



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Response to Cha (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:31 PM

49. Because at this point in the process

Anyone who fact checks or contradicts them is branded a Hillary shill. The media likes controversy and they also like it when other politicians take pot shots at Hillary. But that's going to wear as thin as all the other poop they like so sling and it won't get them anywhere.

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Response to Cha (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:24 AM

28. Jane

Aren't we not allowed to bring up Jane on this forum? I thought that was verboten.

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Response to enid602 (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:26 AM

29. Well you're wrong.

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Response to enid602 (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:28 AM

31. Says who?

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:34 AM

17. Another serious miscalculation.. that campaign is full of them.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:46 AM

19. Huff Post: Guess he's not sick and tired of talking about her damn emails after all.-Flip flopper

I had tacked this HP article on a thread out there but will X-post it here also



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=768482

47. Huff Post: Guess he's not sick and tired of talking about her damn emails after all.-Flip flopper

So now that Hillary's poll numbers are up and Sanders are stagnant--Bernie evolves into a big FLIP-FLOPPER.




www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-emails_563ac204e4b0307f2cac16ef?utm_hp_ref=politics

Bernie Sanders: Hillary Clinton's Emails Deserve Scrutiny
Guess he's not sick and tired of talking about her damn emails after all.


Marina Fang


Posted: 11/04/2015 10:43 PM EST

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who declared during last month's Democratic presidential debate that "the American people are sick and tired" of hearing about Hillary Clinton's private email account, on Wednesday defended a federal probe into the matter and said it should continue.

“You get 12 seconds to say these things,” Sanders told The Wall Street Journal, referring to his comments at the debate. “There’s an investigation going on right now. I did not say, ‘End the investigation.’ That’s silly. ... Let the investigation proceed unimpeded.”

In one of the most memorable moments of the debate, Sanders chided the media for focusing on Clinton's email scandal instead of substantive policy issues.......

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Response to riversedge (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:25 PM

103. Damn, I would be talking about all the good thing I was planning to if elected and how I was going

to pay for those programs. Talking about the damn emails is not going to get votes for Sanders. We see how always remaining the same and never changing but flip flops are allowed. He is behind in the polls, now he is going to go the RW way, not going to change my vote.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 10:53 AM

21. Daily Kos: Bernie Sanders wants #Benghazi Committee to continue witch hunt

Here is another one from DK that I had tacked on a thread out there but will X-post:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=768545

51. WTF!! Flip Flopper Bernie Sanders wants #Benghazi Committee to continue witch hunt



Tweet:
WTF!! Flip Flopper Bernie Sanders wants #Benghazi Committee to continue witch hunt http://bit.ly/1SqvRE1 #p2 #Hillary16 #uniteblue



Wed Nov 04, 2015 at 09:31 PM PST
Sanders wants Benghazi Committee to continue witch hunt

by
brooklynbadboy



When things were looking promising, Sanders, who clearly speaks for the American people, 'was tired of hearing her damn email.' Welp, here is what the desperation of a campaign facing broad rejection in 49 states will bring about:

On the issue of Mrs. Clinton’s emails, Mr. Sanders didn’t say he regretted his debate remarks. “You get 12 seconds to say these things,” he said of the debate setting. “There’s an investigation going on right now. I did not say, ‘End the investigation.’ That’s silly… Let the investigation proceed unimpeded.”




.................................Not sure if email is the way to go, but I suppose the goal is here is to sew doubt about Clinton's electability, a perfectly fair point of contention. But Sanders will have to amplify this attack with ads without an assist from the GOP and Trey Gowdy. There is already early signs the GOP intends to do just that considering Donald Trump:

Trump said other candidates “weren’t even allowed to talk up against” Clinton, adding that Sanders “totally destroyed his campaign” by not focusing on the email issue and is now “just wasting his time.”
...

“When Sanders gave up the emails, I said ‘He’s dead, that’s the end of him,’” Trump said. “It was a great soundbite for about three minutes, for three seconds, they clapped for about three seconds.”



Tad Devine agrees! Good on the Sanders Campaign for getting tougher. More aggression. More...........................

The Clinton Campaign, I suspect, wont rest on its laurels but will hit back at the time and place of its choosing. Winning big in 49 states gives them that luxury. But make no mistake, hit back they must. ..................

Lets get Bernie Sanders aligned with Donald Trump and Trey Gowdy. EXCELLENT!....................

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Response to riversedge (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:00 AM

22. I don't believe the Clinton Campaign should hit back all too hard.

Just enough to point out his hypocrisy and flip-flopping.

They're ahead in the polls in all but one State, so it would be 'punching down', and Americans don't like that.

However...Martin O'Malley can be useful here.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:09 PM

38. I agree....

I do not they should make a special effort to hit back. But if opportunity arises or if asked--no doubt Hillary will be prepared.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:30 PM

48. No doubt! She's an expert in political jiu jitsu, as we've seen in the debate.

Now that Sanders is bringing up her e-mails again in an interview with the Wall Street Journal, no less, as he tries to sow seeds of doubt that there might be something there, the statement made by Mark Halperin looks to be true. He claimed that Bernie's so-called "defense" of Hillary Clinton and the e-mail non-scandal ("we're tired of hearing about your damn e-mails" was a rehearsed line, and that he was supposed to use to vilify her. But clever Lady that she is, she quickly turned it around to her benefit.

Sanders doesn't have the temperament to be president, and he isn't all too swift on his feet, either - unless it's for stomping off stages when he's confronted with people who question and upset him, that is.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:28 AM

30. This will help Martin O'Malley more than it hurts Hillary Clinton

And it will be at Bernie Sanders' expense. (Thus building an even more formidable Clinton-O'Malley ticket, if that's what she decides to do.)

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:30 AM

32. I never thought of that.

Very real possibility.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:07 PM

37. Agreed

And based on what he says and does, I think he is running for VP more than President anyway. Would be a strong ticket.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:11 PM

40. no, I think O'M has

come down to strong on Hillary at times (IMHO).

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:32 PM

50. O'Malley as VP pick is strong, but Julian Castro as VP is stronger.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:24 PM

106. Yes! Clinton/Castro!!

A Texas Hispanic who is NOT a Republican! That could be huge! Or YYUUUUUGE!

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:39 AM

34. X-posted to GD-P now........

and some of the Democrats over there agree with Trump....

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:41 AM

35. Wrong. Sanders, in regard to the Clinton emails,

 

said that there was an investigation currently underway and that it should be allowed to play out, and that because of this it is not necessary for the total of our political discussions in the media to be laser focused on the email issue at the expense of discussing other issues important to the American people. Not difficult to discern IF YOU PAY ATTENTION.

I can clearly see the problem Clinton supporters have with Bernie now. They are simply incapable of ever hearing and comprehending accurately the entirety of his statements.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:59 AM

36. No worries we get that he's flip flopping. He doesn't care if we're tired of the repubs craven

hearings on emails.. he wants it to continue.

BFD.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:09 PM

39. I support Bernie

but this was a major flip-flop. Yes I heard him speak out of both sides of his mouth on it the first time, he would've been smarter to just let it go.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:14 PM

43. Hey I'm losing so I will scorch the earth on the way down.

Knew it would happen. Just didn't know when.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:17 PM

46. I like Sanders but some of his supporters are overzealous

 

IMO.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:29 PM

47. More bullcrap from the Clinton crowd...

 

... what did you want a senator to say - shut down an ongoing FBI investigation? Of course there are valid questions... its just that the Repub crowd isn't asking any of them, just trying to push a made-up story - and saying that the emails were taking up way too much public discourse oxygen isn't the same as saying ignore the email situation (beyond HRCs emails, apparently) altogether.

Notice how the headline was Sanders changing the "tone" - nothing of substance.

This is a non-story. The press is trying to bait the candidates into a skirmish as a distraction away from some large outstanding issues... and the Clinton people are running with it... just like HRC's profound dishonesty in implying that Sanders is a misogynist.

Really, for someone who is the "prohibitive frontrunner, HRC and company are behaving like a campaign on the ropes.

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Response to modestybl (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:35 PM

52. No, sorry.. you're wrong. The "bullcrap" is your insults.

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Response to modestybl (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:35 PM

53. No they're not.

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Response to modestybl (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:48 PM

59. He could have taken his own advice and not said anything.

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Response to modestybl (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:13 PM

69. You realize this is the Clinton Group?

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Response to shenmue (Reply #69)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 05:06 PM

108. Check their profile:

"Favorite group: Hillary Clinton,"
Isn't there a word for people like that?

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Response to johnp3907 (Reply #108)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:17 PM

112. ONE post, and a vicious one against Hillary Clinton in the Hillary Clinton Group, at that.

Yep, there is a word for people like that.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:34 PM

51. Yup

Not a smart political move

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:38 PM

54. Wow, talking about a stretch

doesn't any one have critical thinking? He wanted to talk issues at the debate, not about the damn emails. And, here is the very simple reason...........the investigation by the FBI isn't finished. He never said stop the investigation. He said stop the TALK about the emails, because the public doesn't want to hear any more of it. At this point, everything said about her emails are speculation.

I have yet to see a Clinton supporter talk about issues, but they sure do know how to twist an innocent statement. Hillary has learned her lesson from Slick Willie, she never says anything definitively, it's all wiggle words.

Z

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Response to zalinda (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:41 PM

56. Now that is good...

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Response to MrWendel (Reply #56)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:30 PM

75. Your post says it all about what they're doing, MrWendel.

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Response to zalinda (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:55 PM

62. I'd like to know what makes you think you can come into Hillary's Group and start insulting its

members? You really don't have any clue what you're talking about.

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Response to zalinda (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:03 PM

63. The FBI is not investigating Hillary. Get your facts straight.

And since you have "yet to see a Clinton supporter talk about the issues" try this subthread (seems to me it's the Sanders supporter avoiding the issue there):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=759878

Indeed, Sanders himself appears to be avoiding issues. He just announced he was delaying his promised speech on socialism until after the next Democratic debate.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism-speech/index.html

Sounds like Bernie is listening to that new pollster he hired.

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Response to zalinda (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:13 PM

99. It's only a flip flop if someone you dislike does it

Otherwise it's nuanced. It does give credence to the theory that his line at the debate was not meant as magnanimously as it has been widely interpreted.

I'm not quite sure why you think he wanted to discuss issues in the debate but not to the Wall Street Journal. Interesting that he chose to make his point to the leading GOP paper in the country.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:39 PM

55. It seems that Sanders is just another run of the mill politician

I am disappointed in Sanders but not surprised

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:59 PM

83. Yes, bernie made his name public by capatalizing on the e-mail/Benghazi ..

RW set up "to bring her poll numbers down".
While 8 months of 24/7 media blast about nothing but Hillarys emails, bernie was out there stumping, appearing on as many talk shows as he could find, & building his most viscious hate driven social media push.

Fringe groups & republicans alike piled on to take down the capable, confident, Hillary Clinton.

While her "poll #'s were being taken down" bernie lived in the lap of love as a purfied messiah.

He was all over the place , pulled in million$ in donations from the clueless cult, shouting the message they all needed to hear.

He was somebody!

Well, until the email/benghazi horse he rode in on trotted off & disappeared over the distant horizon.

So now, here stands bernie, whistling for his gift horse that brought him more fame & fortune than he'd ever known and was ever prepared to handle.
Brrnie was never meant for more than a brief fling with celebrity.
He has no credible skills to lead a nation, much less successfully stand face to face against the fragile & smoldering powder keg of foreign policy decisions.

He rode in on the coattails of the RW Rovian Hillary hate machine pushed by Boehner & Team Gowdy.
It was a lie, & rather be the hero in red tights & cape, the freedom fighting revolutionary he claims to be, & speak out against the unjustice of the RW in this case of pure smear, Bernie Sanders revives the lies of Gowdy in hopes of breathing life into his sputtering campaign where #feelingtheburn has taken on a new meaning.

If the only way to revive his campaign is to rehydrate the RW smear campaign againt Hillary Clinton, then he's shown what a conniving, mealy mouth fraud he has been all along
He is no progressive, no Dem, no liberal working for the good of humanity, regardless of what called himself as his campaign moved along.

Bernie is an Indy with very few friends DC.
He holds no loyalty to anyone but Bernie.
He has now exposed his truest of colors.
He is willing to serve to the benefit of the lowest in DC, RW Rovian Team Gowdy, if it just ceases the choking last breaths of his dying dream.
Hillary meanwhile, stood strong & alone & single handedly broke the RW smear campaign "to pieces".

She has well earned her right to be our 1st woman President of the USA.

Sincerely,
A Super Fan of a Super Star
HRC 2016


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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:17 PM

71. Do you understand what the word "if" means?

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Response to Reptilublican (Reply #71)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:20 PM

72. You posted exactly what you need.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:33 PM

76. Out of deperation comes darkness

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:40 PM

77. Sort of proves that he did flub his debate comment..

It wasn't supposed to be supportive.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:45 PM

78. I saw that in one of my 'feeds' this morning

Polling shows that most Americans don't even know what the 'Email Scandal' is about. It really doesn't mean anything to people who don't watch Foox Nuues. 12 Seconds wasn't enough time to adapt a Republican Strategy? As President 12 Seconds may be all the time you have to make critical decisions.

And now Benghazi? These are the "issues" that Sanders supporters want to talk about? Is this part of the new "persuasion" strategy? If he keeps this up the only persuading he will do is convince the DNC to pull the plug on him.

None of this makes any sense.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:49 PM

79. He had Better Not Undermine Hillary the way...

 

...that Bradley undermined Al Gore in 2000, helping make the later election close enough for Chimpy to steal.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:49 PM

80. jury results

On Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:19 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Sanders new found support for the republican witch hunt
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110725114

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Bernie bashing, nothing of substance...

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Nov 5, 2015, 12:38 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is a new tactic by the candidate that is something to discuss on DU. To hide this while similar threads on other candidates are allowed to stand, would be inappropriate.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh please, what a ridiculous alert, and I'm a Bernie supporter.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Within community standards.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This is the kind of alert that leads people to believe that alert-stalking exists and is a problem on DU.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh grow up , little alerter. This is so mild compared to the contrived shit BS supporters are constantly spreading all over this board.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If this constitutes "bashing," most of the posts in GDP would be gone. Please grow thicker skin.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #80)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 01:56 PM

82. Wow, this proves they'll alert anything that doesn't meet #berniesopure

standards.

Thank you, tisha~

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #80)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:15 PM

101. I love that jury.

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Response to tishaLA (Reply #80)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 04:39 PM

107. Wow great jury comments, thanks tisha!

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:21 PM

88. Desperate times call for desperate measures

It would seem.

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:27 PM

89. Talk about giving aid and comfort to the "oligarchy."

What a weakling. I just lost the last shred of respect for this man.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #89)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:30 PM

90. Well said, Starry.. it will backfire as these kind of things are destined to do.

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Response to Cha (Reply #90)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:53 PM

97. I agree with what you said upthread, Cha.

"Tad must have seen the poll numbers and unlike their fans took them seriously enough to try something desperate."

I know it will backfire, agreed. It really shows a lack of character though. I thought he was supposed to be talking about socialism and getting his ideas out in front of people, does he honestly think the places where he polls the weakest are going to give the smallest rats ass about this?

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #97)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:00 PM

98. They must think that.. there have been so many miscalculations. Tad Devine doesn't seem

to have gotten better over the years.

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Response to Cha (Reply #98)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:15 PM

100. I thought his ad was supposed to start running today in Iowa and New Hampshire

He should be talking about things that reinforce the message of his ad. He just flushed $2 million down the toilet, because I can guarantee the news cycle is going to focus on the one thing he said today about emailgate.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #100)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:26 PM

104. And, I thought he was going to give a speech on socialism.. instead he wants to join repubs,

wasting more tax payers money on the dead egate

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #89)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:42 PM

94. +1

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:43 PM

95. CBS: Sanders does about-face on Clinton's private email controversy

another X-post


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1252145

54. CBS: Sanders does about-face on Clinton's private email controversy

Sanders flip flop gets around.....



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sanders-does-about-face-on-clintons-private-email-controversy/

By Rebecca Shabad CBS News November 5, 2015, 10:49 AM


Sanders does about-face on Clinton's private email controversy

Sen. Bernie Sanders is shifting away from comments he made about Hillary Clinton's personal email account at the first Democratic presidential debate when he said voters are "sick and tired" hearing about her "damn emails." ...................

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 02:46 PM

96. I see he'd rather talk about Hillary's emails than his socialism.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #96)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:20 AM

119. OK that headline cracked me up

"Sanders' campaign delays speech explaining democratic socialism"

Imagine the candidate for the Democratic nomination's strategy session: Do we use the RW email attack or slip in some socialism?

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 03:47 PM

105. WTF?

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:41 PM

111. My prediction is that by the time this is all over, BS will be as despised among Dems as this guy:

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:51 AM

118. I've always thought that he is a duplicitous phony

after I read a profile of him...
He's as uncompromising as the hard right....a pure full of himself idealogue..

He needs to get hammered....

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Response to sufrommich (Original post)

Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:54 PM

120. Why is a Republican using our party to run for President?

Shouldn't Bernie go jump in the Clown Car and take off with his fellow travelers???????

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