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Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:15 PM

In less than 12 hours, Dailybeast completely shoots down "HillaryEmailGate."

... The (NY Times) article says that there were “new” regulations that Clinton was supposed to abide by. It notes that one past secretary of state, Colin Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, sometimes used his personal email account “before the new regulations went into effect.”

A key question would seem to be this: When did the new regulations go into effect? Oddly, the Times article doesn’t say. It doesn’t pin the new regs down to a specific date or even year.

Now, I know enough about reporting to know how this works. If you’ve got an airtight case, then you lay it all out there. You include the date. Indeed you emphasize the date, you put it high up in your story. The fact that it’s not in there is a little fishy.

Well, this might be the explanation: The new regs apparently weren’t fully implemented by State until a year and half after Clinton left State. Here’s the timeline: Clinton left the State Department on February 1, 2013. Back in 2011, President Obama had signed a memorandum directing the update of federal records management. But the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) didn’t issue the relevant guidance, declaring that email records of senior government officials are permanent federal records, until August 2013. Then, in September 2013, NARA issued guidance on personal email use. A senior State Department official emailed me to say that “in October 2014, a Department-wide notice was sent out which explained each employee’s responsibilities for records management. Consistent with 2013 NARA guidance, it included instructions that generally employees should not use personal email for the transaction of government business, but that in the very limited circumstances when it is necessary, all records must be forwarded to a government account or otherwise preserved in the Department’s electronic records systems.”

So if these new regulations went into effect after she left State, then what rule did she violate, exactly? And, if this is true, why did the Times not share this rather crucial piece of information with its readers? No one could possibly argue that this fact isn’t germane to the story. It’s absolutely central to it. Why would the Times leave it out?

The Times article says the “existence of Mrs. Clinton’s personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi.” This is incorrect. Gawker reported this first, in March 2013. At the time Clinton was Secretary, the Federal Records Act didn’t require federal employees to use government accounts, only to preserve records of their communications. This, Clinton seems to have done.

This seems like a good time to remember another pattern of behavior: namely, that of the Times. I remember clear as a bell reading that initial Jeff Gerth story on Whitewater back in March 1992. It seemed devastating. It took many millions of dollars and many years and many phony allegations before important parts of Gerth’s reporting were debunked. But they were. The Clintons did nothing wrong on Whitewater except to be naïve enough to let themselves by chiseled by Jim McDougal.

If they had done something wrong, with all the prosecutorial firepower thrown at them by a prosecutor (Ken Starr) who clearly hated them, don’t you think they’d have been indicted? Of course they would have been. But Starr couldn’t turn anything up on Whitewater and was about to close down his investigation empty-handed until he got wind of a gal named Monica.

So that’s a pattern too. The Times, for those with short memories, has never loved the Clintons. Remember Howell Raines and his ceaseless, thundering editorials against them. And today, it smells like the Times may have been rolled by the Republican staff of the Benghazi panel. And hey, great work by them and Chairman Trey Gowdy to use the nation’s leading liberal newspaper in this way.

Times has some questions to answer: Did you know that the new regs went into effect after Clinton left office? And if you didn’t, why not? And if you did, why did you leave that fact out of the story? One can imagine Clinton coming up with decent answers to her questions, but it’s kind of hard to see how the Times can.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

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Reply In less than 12 hours, Dailybeast completely shoots down "HillaryEmailGate." (Original post)
wyldwolf Mar 2015 OP
Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #1
Autumn Mar 2015 #2
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #4
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #5
Autumn Mar 2015 #6
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #9
arcane1 Mar 2015 #3
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #7
William769 Mar 2015 #8
wyldwolf Mar 2015 #11
William769 Mar 2015 #13
Number23 Mar 2015 #20
Cha Mar 2015 #21
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #24
riversedge Mar 2015 #12
William769 Mar 2015 #14
1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #10
CanonRay Mar 2015 #15
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #25
Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #16
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #17
Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #18
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #19
wyldwolf Mar 2015 #22
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #23
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #26
okasha Mar 2015 #27
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #28

Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:19 PM

1. Another tempest in a Teapot proves to be people who do not know what they are talking about

being busy pissing in the wind.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:28 PM

5. Welcome to the HRC room.

 

Should have sounded more welcoming. Sorry.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:31 PM

9. Hugs and peace.

 

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:30 PM

7. And of coursemembers here felt the need to pounce on Hillary.

 

Always ready to believe the worst.

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:30 PM

8. But But But...

There are people saying otherwise.

It's a fucking smear campaign out of a Republican playbook and they had the wind knocked right out of their sails!

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Response to William769 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:32 PM

11. I would post it in GD

...but I got a post hidden for calling a progressive a "proooogresssiiivvveee."

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:34 PM

13. One is out to get me right now.

Hang in their it's going to get bumpy but the end result is worth it.

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:42 PM

20. You need to post it in GD. I like Hillary alot but have seen some things that have me concerned

but even if she were to drink goat's blood and howl at the moon in the middle of Trafalgar Square I'd still have her back in light of these really mindless, stupid attacks on her from the folks here that bray the loudest about being the "Democratic base" while doing nothing but crapping all over this woman.

The new tactic is outrage that her email use may have "compromised national security" and it's already been noted that much of this comes from people that couldn't clap loud enough when Snowden actively and deliberately did the same thing.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 08:37 PM

21. Good point.. it's okay for Eddie to dump thousands of Nat Sec Docs but when Hillary uses

private emails and not Breaking Any Laws.. then the pitchforks are out.

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Response to William769 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:33 PM

12. Unfortuately, the House Benzhai Select committee will be

holding hearings on this issue. dam!

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Response to riversedge (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:35 PM

14. Let them expend their energy & money on a non starter

Show them for what they really are.

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:31 PM

10. Everyone knows that the Daily Beast is in Hillary R. Clinton's pocket!!! ...

 

Whereas, the Times is the clear purveyor of non-partisan truth ... these days.

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:22 PM

15. They'll hold hearings anyway, because Benghazi!

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:21 PM

25. They just move on. just so sad.

 

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:35 PM

16. Let's see... and just who eagerly lined up to swallow the hook on this incident?

 

1) The biggest rightwing idiot I've ever encountered (on another bb)
2) FoxNews and their adoring internet blogosphere
3) A helluva lot of willing dupes here at DU. "See what I mean? It's just Hillary being Hillary!"

There's a certain high profile DUer who, if he had a shred of self respect, would close his thread and offer an apology. Ain't gonna happen.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:37 PM

17. No he won't but it is amusing to watch his little tantrum and watch people tell him to get over it.

 

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:37 PM

18. It seems easy 'for those who jumped on this one, now let's see how many are going

to go back and correct themselves. Morning Joe went on and on about this in the morning, wonder if Mika and Joe will correct themselves tomorrow. Shameful and hateful with their reporter who revealed this information, guess it never occurred for him to get the dates correct. Another reporter trying to be just like O'Reilly.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:39 PM

19. I guess it was just to good for the Hillary haters to pass up.

 

But some just won't let go and it is amusing watching them grasp at straws.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:44 PM

22. they're still trying to keep it alive.

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:19 PM

23. Sad but thats all they have.

 

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Response to wyldwolf (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:13 PM

26. Some just can't let it go.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:06 AM

27. It's still alive and kicking, but feebly.

It was on something called USA News this afternoon on the radio. Probably Fox under an alias.

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Response to okasha (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 5, 2015, 06:52 AM

28. Hey welcome to the HRC room okasha.

 

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