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DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:30 PM Aug 2015

Clinton still leads Dems and GOP candidates, despite onslaught: (HILLARY GROUP)

You would never know it by reading the mainstream media or watching this morning's or Sunday's cable news hosts and talking heads doing their usual negativity pile-on about Hillary Clinton's alleged troubles due to emails and a possible entry in the race, due to those alleged troubles, by Vice President Biden.

But current polling data show that former Secretary of State Clinton has substantial favorable ratings among Democrats and leads every GOP presidential candidate. So why have the media ignored these data expressing voter choices that are favorable to Clinton and focused only on the "distrust" and "unfavorables" data? Is there some impetus to prove that the "scandal" regarding emails is as serious as the media and the Republicans are trying to make it?

Here are the facts on Clinton's continued popularity among Democrats and strength in the general election vs. all Republican candidates...

I have three reasons why I believe the media and GOP piling on Clinton hasn't affected voter choices.

First, voters must make choices — and most Democrats and most voters are choosing Clinton vs. the others. Data show that voters continue to see Clinton as a fighter for everyday Americans, someone who has been the subject media/Republican hyped-up bogus "scandals" before (remember Whitewater?), but has always bounced back and continued to fight for them.

Second, while many people say they have questions about the way Clinton has handled the emails controversy, they also seem to understand that 1) she violated no laws; and 2) there is no evidence that national security was harmed by her having a private, secure server. So what's the fuss about, other than media hype (again) and politics?

And third, men as well as women in this country happen to believe that it's about time America elected a qualified female president of the United States. Every other major democracy in the world has; only the United States hasn't — ever.

Any opponent of Hillary Clinton, current or future, must understand the power of this historic opportunity, given Clinton's high qualifications for the office of president.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/251842-clinton-still-leads-dems-and-gop-candidates-despite via The Hill

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Clinton still leads Dems and GOP candidates, despite onslaught: (HILLARY GROUP) (Original Post) DeepModem Mom Aug 2015 OP
but the media says the opposite, so it must be true ericson00 Aug 2015 #1
The media & others are well paid to "say the opposite". n/t Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #14
Most people realize this "scandal" is BS. Kath1 Aug 2015 #2
I liked the point made that voters have seen these "bogus" scandals before... DeepModem Mom Aug 2015 #6
They have been trying to bring her down for years. Kath1 Aug 2015 #9
Awesome, Kath! Thank you! Cha Aug 2015 #19
I just loved that! Kath1 Aug 2015 #22
It goes so well with the look on her face.. Cha Aug 2015 #23
Indeed! Kath1 Aug 2015 #24
To hell with the facts, facts are not important to those who spin the tales. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #3
You mean Gravis-R, Mitchell-R, and Quinnipiac-R Dawson Leery Aug 2015 #4
The onslaught of all negative towards of HRC Iliyah Aug 2015 #5
The most obvious issue, IMHO ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #7
LOL! Well said! n/t DeepModem Mom Aug 2015 #8
Right on. Kath1 Aug 2015 #10
We have to have a horse race, murielm99 Aug 2015 #12
"Trump" all else. Kath1 Aug 2015 #13
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ Tarheel_Dem Aug 2015 #15
Along these lines,... MarianJack Aug 2015 #11
She is the best candidate, the only Dem who can win in the general. SunSeeker Aug 2015 #16
I like how you added (HILLARY GROUP). I wish DU would do that automatically for groups... C Moon Aug 2015 #17
But we are told she's falling like a rock!! FloridaBlues Aug 2015 #18
Hillary is the only candidate we have that can win the GE leftofcool Aug 2015 #20
I have to agree with you she is the only candidate that can win the GE FloridaBlues Aug 2015 #21
Hillary Clinton continues to do well in the polls Gothmog Aug 2015 #25

DeepModem Mom

(38,402 posts)
6. I liked the point made that voters have seen these "bogus" scandals before...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:56 PM
Aug 2015

going all the way back to Whitewater as an example. And they end up, of course, bogus, amounting to nothing. Maybe the GOP has finally overplayed their hand.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
9. They have been trying to bring her down for years.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:06 PM
Aug 2015

It hasn't worked. Most voters will see it for what it is - a smear campaign that has nothing to do with the issues.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. To hell with the facts, facts are not important to those who spin the tales.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:38 PM
Aug 2015

Grasping for air, going to go down another non scandal road.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
4. You mean Gravis-R, Mitchell-R, and Quinnipiac-R
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:41 PM
Aug 2015

are all lying to hurt the Democrats?!? Say it isn't so! :Sarcasm:

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. The onslaught of all negative towards of HRC
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:43 PM
Aug 2015

24/7. It was a time in HISTORY that all candidates cared about the USA, no more.

HRC does.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
7. The most obvious issue, IMHO ...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:00 PM
Aug 2015

... is that we are more than a year away from the GE, and the MSM is not going to put asses on the couch by saying, "Hillary is still the frontrunner" day in/day out.

There has to be something to talk about - and it has to be something that causes the usual audience to drop their Cheetos and take notice. And if that something is just made-up shit, it's not like the couch potatoes are going to know the difference.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
11. Along these lines,...
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:14 PM
Aug 2015

...I believe that the negative media & Republican/teabagger attacks against HRC will fall as flat as little Rickie Santorum's career trajectory is much the same reason why the Willard/Eddie Munster's negative attacks and lying went nowhere against President Obama in 2012. Simply put, the attacks and BS has been so relentless and unchanging against her for so long, 23 years now, that they've simply become white noise and most of the population has become deaf to it.

Just my 2 cents, and quit possibly overpriced at that!

PEACE!

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. She is the best candidate, the only Dem who can win in the general.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:25 AM
Aug 2015

I guess stating the obvious doesn't get ratings or sell newspapers.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
17. I like how you added (HILLARY GROUP). I wish DU would do that automatically for groups...
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 01:30 AM
Aug 2015

I don't always look up at the thread to see if it is in a group. Being lazy, I guess.

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
18. But we are told she's falling like a rock!!
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:13 AM
Aug 2015

Hope this nonsense stops soon. I have to laugh when people and media say 12-15 points ahead is a close race

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