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Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:54 PM

Hillary's "theft" of the California primary

I saw a post yesterday that said that Sanders might be on his way to a "landslide victory" as a result of a recount in CA, and another that speculated on some BS fraud investigation.
I just got around to reading last week's copy of The Economist. Their article, which was published a few days before the CA vote, showed Clinton with a consistent 7-8 point lead. So, I guess the fact that she won by 12 is evidence of fraud

Posted this here so I don't have to listen to (fill in the blank, I could easily name the 5 or 6 that would probably respond) tell me how I just don't get it......

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Reply Hillary's "theft" of the California primary (Original post)
SCantiGOP Jun 2016 OP
stopbush Jun 2016 #1
Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #10
liberal N proud Jun 2016 #2
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #3
Walk away Jun 2016 #4
Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #5
BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #6
Number23 Jun 2016 #15
BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #16
robbedvoter Jun 2016 #19
oasis Jun 2016 #7
Coolest Ranger Jun 2016 #8
book_worm Jun 2016 #9
BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #11
wysi Jun 2016 #12
BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #17
eastwestdem Jun 2016 #13
Cha Jun 2016 #14
dmr Jun 2016 #18
Cha Jun 2016 #20
greatauntoftriplets Jun 2016 #21
dmr Jun 2016 #22
greatauntoftriplets Jun 2016 #23

Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:58 PM

1. They need to grow up and stop the whining.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:24 PM

10. They aren't going to stop until he does.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:08 PM

2. They are still complaining about not getting registered to vote Democratic in time?

Let's send them a waambulance.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:08 PM

3. At this point, I just ignore it. It's the same few posters, posting the same stories over and over

and over and over and over again. They slightly change the title and post it again when it's not getting enough attention.

Or the one dude who bumps his month-old posts every day in GDP.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:22 PM

4. The only thing worse than being a loser...is being a sore loser!!!

#GOHOMEBERNIE!

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:31 PM

5. There are a few who always thinks on the CT and fraud from everyone, the electronic machines are

rigged for certain candidates, polls are also rigged, never see the complaints about poll numbers not always favoring a candidate. When they start their theories, I charge it off to CT and go on.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:31 PM

6. To be fair, they are getting

ammunition for their dubious claims from the self-styled Justice Gazette http://justicegazette.org/index.html JG is full of off-the-wall CTs.

Politifact has completely debunked a "landslide victory" for Sanders. http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jun/10/blog-posting/pants-fire-viral-rumor-bernie-sanders-won-californ/

But some hardcore fans are desperate enough to believe anything that reinforces their beliefs.

The votes in the CA primary are still being counted. But there is no reason whatsoever to believe that there will be anything earth-shaking that will change the overall result. Here are the results as of today so far: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:19 AM

15. Has that Politifact article been made an OP somewhere? Would love to K&R it

And this bit from the article is just inducing:

"No one’s questioning the fundamental integrity of the election," Ben Tulchin, Sanders’ national pollster, told PolitiFact California, in an interview on June 10, 2016.


Is that man serious??! If by "no one" he means "2/3 of Bernie Sanders' most desperate, unhinged and web connected supporters" then yeah, he's absolutely right because I'm having a hard time believing that the 37 conspiracy theories I see posted from these people every single, damned day about how each of the primaries -- that Clinton won, of course -- have been "rigged" and all of these "stolen" votes are just figments of my imagination.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:54 AM

16. Not by me ... I mostly

post in the HRC Group - have been "Bernt" too many times elsewhere!

Please feel free!

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:47 AM

19. and now it's done. Margin unchanged.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:40 PM

7. It's a classic case of denial on steroids.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:42 PM

8. Celebrities like Rick Overton

are posting anything that makes Bernie look good. He and those like him think that Bernie is going to somehow magically come from behind to win.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:09 PM

9. She won the California primary--she is so far ahead he will never catch up

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:28 PM

11. This is probably the best site for

county counting updates: http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/status/

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:04 PM

12. Beating a twelve percent gap in California

... is equivalent to shifting Mount Everest slightly to the left. Seems unlikely.

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Response to wysi (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:07 AM

17. I just checked both SOS CA sites

(statewide and county) and as of 6:30 pm on June 13, the numbers of votes for BOTH candidates had increased.

But Hillary still has a firm 12 percent lead: 55.5% to 43.5%.

The counting will continue - there is a 30-day canvass period to ensure that all votes are counted. What the CTers seem to miss (among many other things):

- not all uncounted votes are for Democratic candidates
- of those that are for Democratic candidates, they are not all for Bernie; in fact, they appear to be allocated between Hillary and Bernie in much the same percentages as in the overall winning projections from June 7

Those two factors will likely continue throughout the counting process. No one sane doubts Hillary's win in CA. The winning margin could tighten somewhat. But so far, it has not tightened by much.


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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:44 AM

14. Yeah, BS still thinks he's.. ".. when I'm President"..

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:42 AM

18. I don't get why he said that.

That was such a momentous day; meeting with the President, then Bernie's little presser outside the White House. Then the President endorsed Hillary ... well, it was a momentous day for me ...

I should've known better, but I expected Bernie to be a conciliatory gentleman after that meeting.

Thinking about that day - maybe that little presser outside the White House was too much for Bernie's psyche. Maybe he felt like he was president outside his White House. Maybe Jane felt First-Ladyish (yuck).

I thought the whole presser was weird. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't think of anyone other than someone within the WH administration speaking at a White House microphone. Yet there was Bernie & Jane.

Anyway, I still don't get why Bernie said what he said that night. I thought it irresponsible to lead his supporters on that way.

Guess Tuesday's election in DC will help end this. I see Hillary winning it, which then we'll hear how it was rigged.


Edited to add that if Bernie continues to fight & make demsnds, then I want to see those fucking tax documents!

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Response to dmr (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:21 AM

20. That Was such a Momentous Day, dmr!

@ first I was bummed because it looked like sanders asked for the meeting with President Obama to use him for his tiresome stump speech in front of the White House..




https://theobamadiary.com/2016/06/12/lovewins/

But then President Obama came out about an hour later and stepped all over it with his brilliant endorsement of Hillary!



And, I was over the !

I didn't expect anything from sanders.. this is all about him. He can still be in the race but his acting like he has a chance to win is running his same ol delusional game.

And, Yes... Where's BS' Taxes?! What's he hiding?

Mahalo, dmr!

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Response to dmr (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:29 AM

21. dmr!

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:45 PM

22. Hugs to you

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Response to dmr (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:52 PM

23. So good to see you!

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