Hillary Clinton
Related: About this forumWhat did you think of the Wasserman-Schultz statement re Nevada?
I found myself uncomfortable listening to it. To me it sounded like the expression of pent-up hostility toward the Sanders campaign that pre-dates Nevada. Whether or not she has good reasons, this plays into the claim that the DNC has not been neutral. She didn't sound like a person to lead the effort to bring the party together.
What did you all think?
TIA
LAS
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Sanders was mad from the get go because Debbie is a Democrat who supports Democrats.
msongs
(67,394 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)I personally think she has done a damn good job at a very challenging job. I wouldn't be cut out for it.
Especially when she welcomed in an Independent who she believed to be as honest as he presented himself to be.
Someone who claimed to be aligned with the Dem Party & would adhere to the rules set forth by the Party.
To find out that her trust was betrayed, & his intent was to try his best to break & divide the Party, and run a campaign of slander towards all things Democratic, rather than policy & constructive unifying.
He didn't like the Party rules, he didn't like the President, he didn't like the best candidate we have to defeat the GOPTeaparty and he lied when he vowed to not run a negative campaign.
Now we watch as he tries to skirt the Party rules, steal delegates, (also stole a candidate's voter data) slander the amazing value of the Party & the very qualified Hillary Clinton, and vaguely dismisses the riotous behavior of his supporters.
His threat of disrupting, contesting or whatever else brings him attention, at the July Dem Convention tells me that DWasserman Schulz has well earned her kudos as head of the DNC this year.
She was deceived & lied to by bernie sanders.
She has done her part best she could legally do, in protecting the Dem Party while adhereing to DNC rules.
I applaud her effort because the Dem Party is still standing & the usurper has lost.
I have no problem giving her credit for successfully doing a job not many others would want nor have the kojones to do.
Thank You
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I felt uneasy with the her tone and her words.
msongs
(67,394 posts)grouchy
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)His machine is made of slander at best & that is how he has built his following.
Not by policy nor a resume that tells us he is honest in his claim of being a progressive.
Sen Paul Wellstone could have shown sanders what a true progressive looks like.
Bernie failed that test when he voted against Wellstone's ammendment to stop toxic dumping in Sierra Blanca.
Sanders killed Wellstone's ammendments and saw to it that VT would have a home for their radioactive waste in Sierra Blanca.
Its odd that he stands now to damn the toxic fracking waste on the campaign trail, don't you think?
Sanders machine is merely sleight of hand, ar best.
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)LAS14
(13,781 posts)I badly want the Democratic party to come together as much as possible after the convention. If that is to happen, some people in leadership need to take a mediating role. Can it be that if you ask a question, or express something other than a black and white opinion that you're not welcome? Search for my posts. I've got cred as a Hillary supporter.
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puffy socks
(1,473 posts)Is she supposed to just put up with the constant false accusations of rigging elections, conspiracy theories,and bashing? All the while Sanders and his supporters perpetually whine about being cheated?
She was far nicer than she should have been considering....
Sanders spends years bashing the Democratic Party.
Sanders comes to the DNC in 2015 after he decides to run at the last minute.
They offer him an olive branch and allow him to run as a Democrat . He still plans to stay an Independent after the race, he admits he needs the DNC because he did not have the infrastructure to run by himself and get elected.
It gets him exposure in the media
His campaign crosses the line and access DNC info through a fire wall and then blames the DNC and Hillary Clinton.
Bernie files suit which he later says he withdraws because the report proved his campaign correct...which was a total lie as evidenced by the withdraw itself.
His campaign does well but not well enough to win so...
Sanders supporters start making claims of Hillary Clinton death
Sanders supporters start making claims of DNC and Clinton of rigging coin tosses
Sanders supporters start making claims of DNC rigging elections with delegate rules
Sanders supporters start making claims of DNC rigging the election because super delegates should only support a candidate at the convention.
Sanders supporters start making claims of Clinton and the DNC flipping votes, Hillary and the DNC preventing the Independent vote Voters whi didn't know the election laws and so didn't register. Accusations against Hillary and the DNC of election fraud in NY in a district that likely would have a been Hillary win.
Sanders wins Kansas Missouri, Colorado Michigan ..so of course no claims of election rigging made.
Sanders and supporters start to realize the math just isn't there for a Bernie nomination.
Sanders starts complaining more about being treated unfairly and election rigging and the bias of the DNC .
Sanders now says it's A-okay to flip SDs now that he is losing and its the only possible path.
Sanders supporters stat harassing SDs and making death threats etc.
Constant claims it's never Bernie's supporters texting, calling, cursing at children etc.
The path to Sanders nomination ends after Apr 26. The bitterness sets in and loudest vitriol against DWS the DNC and Hillary Clinton and her supporters begins...
Sanders supporters shouting and cursing at children who were there for the Hillary rally in LA.
Sanders supporters shouting and cursing at the Democrats at the convention. threatening to throw a chair, being loud and obnoxious, again coming unprepared for the convention . Bernie's delegates don't show up and they throw a loud tantrum and cause it to have to be shut down by police.
Sanders supporters and Sanders blame the DNC for their nasty behavior and then try and justify and pretend their actions were no big deal and certainly no violence was intended..its just like any other political convention.
Sanders supporters call for DWS resignation and are currently trying a hostile take over of the Democratic Party.....after behaving like spoiled children at the convention.
Sanders expects the Democratic Party to meet his platform demands after losing
Did I miss anything?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)puffy socks
(1,473 posts)"While Mr. Sanders says he does not want Mr. Trump to win in November, his advisers and allies say he is willing to do some harm to Mrs. Clinton in the shorter term if it means he can capture a majority of the 475 pledged delegates at stake in California and arrive at the Philadelphia convention with maximum political power."
This is the first time I've seen this. What an
I'm sorry, with every one of these revelations about Sanders, the coming inevitable celebration of Hillary Clinton's nomination is becoming more and more delicious to me.
nygurl
(33 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)They have to pretend he "deserves to do whatever he wants blah blah blah" but they hate him. Mostly because he is behaving like an asshole and has been for months. He has basically called all of them corporate tools and dishonest. He's stolen from them, sued them and lied about them constantly. Now he is going all out to destroy the party and probably the country.
But no one has had to put up with more crap than DWS. She may not be my pick for head of the DNC but she is just doing her job the best she can. Bernie and his obnoxious attack dogs have been tearing her apart from day one.
She is probably reading bus schedules so she could push Bernie under the biggest, fastest and heaviest one. And I mean a REAL bus, not a metaphorical one.
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)It's almost over. I know that's hard to remember - it is for me - but it really is. After June 7th, he gets to decide if he's going to be on board or if he's going to bern, er, burn, the last bridges he has left. Either way, the vast majority of eyes will turn to the GE and it's all Clinton/Trump 24/7.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)it's her business what she would choose to do! I'm just saying she has every reason to despise him as he has acted despicably!
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)and she's the one who is expected to play nice.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Bernie must not be planning on ever working with Dems again after the convention. It's the only thing that makes sense, unless he's totally lost his mind. I thought he was smarter than this. I guess I was wrong.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)And I've seen some news outlets claiming that he's going to somehow become some kind of Senate "kingmaker."
I laughed mightily, for an extended period of time.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)I don't think he'll raise another damned dime after this fiasco.
riversedge
(70,185 posts)keeps her cool considering the crap she has to put with from him and his camp!
......But no one has had to put up with more crap than DWS. She may not be my pick for head of the DNC but she is just doing her job the best she can. Bernie and his obnoxious attack dogs have been tearing her apart from day one. ............
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)Sanders supporters don't seem to understand that the belief that she shouldn't be subject to unsubstantiated nonsense and the belief that we don't approve of everything she does and that we could do better aren't mutually exclusive.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)she's been railroaded so much this cycle for being the responsible adult in the room. I'm beyond sure that she hates the Sander's campaign. They've tried without fail to paint her as some cartoon villain out to get Sanders. In reality though, the DNC has to respond forcefully to things concerning the state parties because when Sanders finally heads back to Vermont, Roberta Lange and the NVDems will still be on the ground working for candidates. The DNC head cannot back down when the state parties are under attack.
LisaM
(27,800 posts)(or tried to), I think she's kept her cool remarkably well.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Have blamed the one hundred or so and if true they had been spending time at the bars and said they used poor judgement and he did not condone their behavior nor the threats which followed but hr chose not to. As a leader, he would never be able to do the job. DWS was right to make a statement she made.
BootinUp
(47,139 posts)2) I think it was necessary to telegraph that the DNC was not going to stand for shennanigans in Philly.
3) BS statement has been universally criticized.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I would have liked her statement to have been more candid about the damage he is doing to the democratic party. Trump couldn't have a better puppet than Bernie.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)LAS14
(13,781 posts).... were falling, I'd be a lot more than uncomfortable. Check back in mid-November. Hopefully the sky won't be falling, but there's a possibility.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)if there is anyone who has put up with more unmitigated and unjustified B***S*** from the Sanders campaign than Hillary, it is DWS.
I understand her POV.
skylucy
(3,738 posts)been feeding the narrative that Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been unfair to them ever since they stole Hillary's data when there was a computer glitch. They got caught and then whined when their data account was closed for 24 hours so that the DNC could double check the system and make sure it didn't happen again. Then Sanders sued the DNC over it. (Recently they dropped the bogus lawsuit) They continually whine about not liking when the debates were scheduled.Whine Whine Whine. They have badmouthed the party and created bull**** conspiracy theories about the primaries being rigged...as if Wasserman Schultz single handedly created the process and rules just to be mean to them.I'd bet money that she has received nasty or threatening emails from Sanders supporters...They constantly bash her online. So---to put it bluntly---She did great and was a lot more magnanimous than I would have been.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)I actually think she was a little TOO nice about all the bullshit that's been flung her way from Sanders and his supporters.
trueblue2007
(17,203 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)See post 16.
Thanks
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