Update....Nevada Convention

[Henhouse]

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 7m7 minutes ago

Bernie folks vote against delegate count report. They lose. Now they are standing and booing. Unity now!

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 4m4 minutes ago

You get the picture. Bernie people not happy. Chanting "recount." Wait, I thought Harry Reid fixed this with Bernie last night. Unity now!

Convention at standstill!

[ismnotwasm]

1. Can't roll my eyes high enough

#sodonewithit

[TexasTowelie]

2. Oops!

1,245 Clinton delegates 1,149 Sanders delegates.

[Cha]

35. Mahalo, TexasT!

[Koinos]

3. Is this what the Democratic national convention will look like?

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If so, please turn off the video and audio feed.

[SunSeeker]

4. Reminds me of the GOP protest that stopped the FL count in 2000.

[LisaM]

5. Yeah, me too.

They don't even realize they are acting like thugs.

[Fresh_Start]

6. They absolutely do know they are acting like thugs

and they expect to intimidate other people so that the thugs get their way

[Cha]

36. Only these BBs didn't succeed.

[BlueCaliDem]

45. Something that was orchestrated by KKKarl Rove - the same one who is orchastrating this

fiasco. Anyone who has a problem believing that KKKarl Rove isn't behind this is fooling themselves. These people frothing at the mouths aren't Democrats - not by a long shot.

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/731683071058042881

[BlueMTexpat]

7. Very, very bad losers!

[Cha]

37. Yeah.. thank goodness they don't get the chance to show that off.

[Henhouse]

8. Booing Lucy Flores, Bernie supporter, because she nods to Barbara Boxer....

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 6m6 minutes ago

#nv04 hopeful @lucyflores up. She's a Bernie supporter. Says "about the future of progressive agenda." Nods to Boxer. Berniebots boo.

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 9m9 minutes ago

Bernie guy soliciting media to go talk to Bernie spox so we can understand why upset about rules. Um, is it because they are always upset?

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 11m11 minutes ago

They had to take Boxer off big screen because Bernie supporter blocking camera with sign. I kid you not.

[mcar]

41. Stay classy, Bernistas

[SaschaHM]

9. The revolution is showing its true colors.

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Watching them go down in defeat and eat their own is glorious. This is what happens when you run a campaign on perpetual victimization. When it is time to be or act rational in the face of defeat, former saviors become persecutors.

[Rose Siding]

10. Jesus. Those losers are booing Barbara f'ing Boxer! Periscope-

https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/731547382454702080

Boxer doesn't take crap like that: "Boo all you want. You're booing Sanders and this country! Boo louder!"

[LisaM]

11. Ugh.

I f***ing hate them and the "good" Sanders supporters who turn a blind eye.

[Henhouse]

12. Listening to Boxer gave me chills...."Boo all you want....." Love her n/t

[Cha]

38. "I was born in Brooklyn and I'm not afraid of bullies!" ".. Boo louder".. Yeah, big Bullies!

[sarae]

40. That makes me so angry

It's so utterly disrespectful and disgusting that they were acting like that. Good for her for not taking their crap.

[Rose Siding]

42. Bet those fools don't know she's done more than BS ever did to harness big banks

WASHINGTON — The Senate, opening debate Wednesday on amendments to the sweeping overhaul of Wall Street regulation, adopted a bipartisan compromise establishing new procedures for averting another financial meltdown like the 2008 crisis.

On a 96-1 vote, the Senate adopted an amendment by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) declaring that no taxpayer funds would be used to shore up failing financial institutions in the future.
...
Boxer, who is cutting a populist profile in her reelection campaign this year, said, "If there's one thing we should all be able to agree on, it is this: The American taxpayers should never again have to bail out Wall Street firms that gambled away our savings and wreaked havoc on our economy."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/06/business/la-fi-financial-reform-20100506

She's so establishment she's EFFECTIVE

[SharonClark]

13. Tired of ignorant Sanders supporters and their attitude of entitlement

[LisaM]

14. I know and I don't want to trash all millennials but

this reminds of newbies in our workplace that arrive thinking they can do a better job than someone who has been there 20 years. They are not all like that but the ones who are make it difficult to be around them. They want to push good people out.

[caquillo]

20. Most of his supporters are young millennials

i.e. College-age and twentysomethings. These kids, born after 1995 or so, were raised entirely different than us older people. This is probably the first Presidential election where the "everyone gets a trophy" millennials have been able to vote. These kids who grew up using playgrounds with foam on the ground and plastic covering the handles of the swings, so that they don't get pinched, and who were covered from head to toe before they were allowed to go ride their bike around the neighborhood. They were raised to believe that they're special and entitled to everything, so Bernie's message is right on par with how they were brought up and anyone with an opposing opinion is "the enemy" or coming from "not a safe space," and it's been fascinating to see how that upbringing has translated into politics.

[MSMITH33156]

15. Not surprising

And this is why we shouldn't paint with a broad brush when we talk about "Bernie Supporters." The real danger in the way Bernie has continued to justify his existence in this race by dog whistling to his supporters about the validity of every election he loses is that he'll not be able to walk that back. Most of them are in fact reasonable. But some of them are entitled and can no longer be fact checked. Basically it's a similar problem that Republicans have. They've told their supporters not to believe facts, Trump shows up lying, and they tried to fact check him, but couldn't because "facts" don't exist.

Hillary won Nevada, factually. But Bernie implied some form of fraud. So, now when they show up to the state convention, and do a delegate count, and Hillary wins, a SMALL portion (worth repeating, this is not a majority of his supporters there) of his supporters won't accept it, largely because he told them to question any election result that didn't go his way.

The problem is he empowered his mob, and he can't control them. He tried to. Here is a statement he released, telling his supporters to NOT do exactly what they are doing:

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-statement-nevada-democratic-party-convention/

Meanwhile, his own people at the convention are getting up on stage and telling this small portion of his supporters to shut up and stop causing a ruckus, and they are getting booed. You empower the entitled, tell them they're winning when they're not, then tell them to accept the defeat...some of them just won't listen. That's where we're at.

But to be clear, most of his supporters at the convention are behaving, are trying to control the loud, disruptive minority...they just can't. No one can. Bernie doused the matches in kerosene, lit them on fire, and now it's Berning out of control.

[SharonClark]

21. Thanks for the clarification and the reminder they do not represent ALL Sanders supporters

[MSMITH33156]

22. His representatives are trying to stop them

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 2h2 hours ago
#nv04 hopeful @lucyflores up. She's a Bernie supporter. Says "about the future of progressive agenda." Nods to Boxer. Berniebots boo.

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 3h3 hours ago
Joan Kato, who was Bernie's state director, comes up on stage and asks angry Sanders supporters to take a step back from stage. Oh boy.

[LisaM]

32. But they give the perception that most of them are like this.

The behavior at the Hillary event in L.A. was atrocious and I don't hear anyone apologizing. And now I have even reasonable friends who support him who relentlessly post anti-Hillary stuff.

[MSMITH33156]

33. 100% Agree

in another thread I wrote that the majority has been tacitly endorsing this behavior by not condemning it. Here, they did at least actually try to stop it, but now realize it's out of control. I think they are only now coming face to face with the issue they've created. Ample time to weed out that element before the Convention though.

[MSMITH33156]

16. I think this might actually be good

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/731580655104974848

They're finally getting a taste of the monster they've created and realize the problem. Sometimes, it's necessary for a mess so that you can look in the mirror. Better it happen now versus later.

[liberal N proud]

17. Bet they are the victim

.

[comradebillyboy]

30. Bern victims nt

[jmowreader]

18. I saw this in a movie once

It was the first Robocop, the scene where the voted-out-of-office city councilman was holding the mayor hostage.

"I want some fresh coffee! And I want a recount! And no matter how it turns out, I want my old job back!"

[MSMITH33156]

19. And this will end the same way for Bernie now

If he wants any Committee chair position, and doesn't want the Dems to run candidates against him...aka his old job back, he better get his people in order.

And by "his people" I mean the 40 or so causing the ruckus while over 1,000 of his supporters look on in horror. So he basically needs to train the people at these conventions and have them recognize that this won't be tolerated. He tried to do it last minute by releasing a statement telling them not to do so, but not everyone got the message and/or cares.

[Walk away]

23. Bernie McNader is sure doing the Democratic party a favor by staying in the race!!!!

His supporters aren't just useless to the party, they are an embarrassment. Why are we pandering to them when we know they are going to vote for Trump anyway???

[riversedge]

24. Clinton's delegate edge -- an impressive turnaround after county convention disasters -- could retu

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 53s53 seconds ago

Clinton's delegate edge -- an impressive turnaround after county convention disasters -- could return count to 20-15 as caucus #s projected.

[Cha]

39. Thanks rivers!

[riversedge]

25. Final delegate count: 1,693 Clinton: 1662 Sanders 4 uncommitted HILLARY WINS!

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 6m6 minutes ago

Final delegate count: 1,693 Clinton: 1662 Sanders
4 uncommitted

[Henhouse]

27. Gotta love Nevada....best 2 outta 3 wins...

I doubt Sander's supporters won him any superdelegates by their behavior so it is a win in more ways then one....

[Thinkingabout]

26. Where are the leaders? Oligarchy in the making, control by the few.

[caquillo]

28. Can someone please explain to me what's going on in NV?

I thought they held their caucus back in February.

[Henhouse]

31. Hillary won the caucus in Feb. but there was some BS funny business at the county convention

This Politifact has the tic toc...Today Hillary, definatively won the at the Nevada state convention...

Politifact from April - No, Bernie Sanders didn't retroactively win Nevada

http://www.politifact.com/nevada/statements/2016/apr/07/blog-posting/no-bernie-sanders-didnt-retroactively-win-nevada/

Hillary Clinton was declared the winner of Nevada’s presidential caucuses back in February, but some supporters of Bernie Sanders are claiming the Vermont senator might have won the state after all.

The pronouncement came after Sanders delegates ended up outnumbering Clinton’s during the hectic Clark County Democratic Convention on April 2, leading many media outlets and supporters to declare that Sanders retroactively "won" the state by outmaneuvering Clinton.

So, did Sanders add another state to his column as many have claimed?

The answer is no, and it likely will remain that way.

We’ll tell you why.

Caucus math

[caquillo]

34. Thanks a lot!

[2naSalit]

29. But they don't want unity

and now they demand it...

collective schizophrenia on display.

[MSMITH33156]

44. Well, this won't go over well in never, never land

Jon Ralston ?@RalstonReports 4m4 minutes ago
1695 Hillary; 1662 Bernie, final.
Reminder: Hillary won Feb. 20 caucus.
This is how it should work.

[Tarc]

46. I'm watching a periscope of a Bernie fan at the caucus now, it is sad/hysterical

There's 1,000 users all screaming various lulzy things;

"we should vote Trump and let em destroy the country!"
"call the United Nations!"
"bernie or fucking bust"

and they're panicking cause no one can figure out how to save the recording...

ps - and they're posting and reposting the NV party chair's personal cellphone #. Classy classy...