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Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:23 PM

Jane Sanders hits Clinton for politicizing families of gun victims Read more: http://www.politico.c

WTF?

As Hillary Clinton held the latest in a series of panels and discussions with family members of those affected by gun violence, Bernie Sanders' top personal surrogate laced into her approach Thursday.
"I just don't like to see it be politicized. I think that Secretary Clinton's gun record is a lot more spotty than Bernie's," Jane Sanders, the wife of the Democratic presidential candidate, said in an interview with CNN, after the network cut away from coverage of Clinton's panel in Hartford, Connecticut, that included, among others, the daughter of the principal killed at Sandy Hook Elementary in 2012.
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Nelba Marquez-Greene, whose daughter was killed at Sandy Hook in 2012, remarked before Sanders' comments that she came to the event "knowing I would be the subject of ridicule and ire, online harassment and abuse and knowing that people would make mean comments like 'Oh there goes Hillary, using those Sandy Hook families.'"

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/jane-sanders-hillary-clinton-gun-violence-222276#ixzz46WPzhkcW




Here is the response from the daughter of the principal of Sandy Hook Elementary-

Erica L Smegielski
‏@EricaSmegs
[email protected] -offended that you are saying @HillaryClinton is politicizing my mothers murder, have lunch with me? Would love to talk truth


and again-
Erica L Smegielski
‏@EricaSmegs
[email protected] Will you be in CT this weekend? You're welcome at my house any time. I would love to open dialogue on this issue.

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Reply Jane Sanders hits Clinton for politicizing families of gun victims Read more: http://www.politico.c (Original post)
Rose Siding Apr 2016 OP
msongs Apr 2016 #1
NuclearDem Apr 2016 #2
AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #3
Lucinda Apr 2016 #4
Rose Siding Apr 2016 #7
Lucinda Apr 2016 #9
Cha Apr 2016 #5
Lucinda Apr 2016 #6
Control-Z Apr 2016 #51
ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #8
LannyDeVaney Apr 2016 #10
SunSeeker Apr 2016 #11
sarae Apr 2016 #24
DesertFlower Apr 2016 #12
Iliyah Apr 2016 #13
Haveadream Apr 2016 #14
sheshe2 Apr 2016 #18
SaschaHM Apr 2016 #15
Tarheel_Dem Apr 2016 #16
LisaM Apr 2016 #17
apcalc Apr 2016 #26
Cha Apr 2016 #44
Satch59 Apr 2016 #19
Cha Apr 2016 #45
Whimsey Apr 2016 #20
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #37
Cha Apr 2016 #46
sarae Apr 2016 #21
Rose Siding Apr 2016 #31
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #36
sarae Apr 2016 #50
SharonClark Apr 2016 #49
Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #22
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #23
livetohike Apr 2016 #27
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #30
livetohike Apr 2016 #32
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #35
Princess Turandot Apr 2016 #25
BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #41
livetohike Apr 2016 #28
pandr32 Apr 2016 #48
BeyondGeography Apr 2016 #29
Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #38
BlueMTexpat Apr 2016 #42
Walk away Apr 2016 #33
Her Sister Apr 2016 #34
George II Apr 2016 #39
book_worm Apr 2016 #40
DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #43
pandr32 Apr 2016 #47
NurseJackie Apr 2016 #52
stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #53
Her Sister Apr 2016 #54
Whimsey Apr 2016 #55

Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:27 PM

1. meanwhile her hubby votes to kill people all over the planet using drones and US military nt

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:27 PM

2. Jane, just stop.

 

For the love of God, just stop.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:28 PM

3. Politics, and one seems surprised? Cannot imagine why, we are all guilty of such....

It's the nature of the beast we ourselves have created....

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:30 PM

4. Erica was great at the gun violence forum today, hope Jane takes her up on it

she might learn something.

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:38 PM

7. Breaks my heart Ms Marquez-Greene foresaw this sort of mean comment

I bet she didn't know it would come from a "dem" candidate's spouse. Still she was strong enough to stand up and try to find meaning in her child's death.

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:55 PM

9. She, actually everyone on the panel, from the young man who turned his life around, to the woman

who has no kids but is an educator, to the three? i think, women who had direct family connections to gun murders, as well as the politicians and ministers who spoke from the audience, all had heart wrenching stories to share. Hillary served as a moderator for them to speak about the problems, and to talk about the process of finding and implementing real measures to make progress.

It was extraordinary to watch it streaming live. Haven't been able to find a link or transcript.

And to think that anyone is trying to make this a political attack, is disgusting. And so is the abuse these people deal with every day for speaking out for common sense laws.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:30 PM

5. I read this awhile ago.. jane must be doing it again and again even though it's not working for

the campaign to be so callous and ignorant.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:32 PM

6. If you get a chance to watch the video of the meeting today, I highly recommend it.

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Response to Lucinda (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:36 PM

51. Do you know where I can watch it?

Would love a link to an online source. Thanks!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:38 PM

8. Yeah this backfired on Ms. Sanders

Not her best move.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:02 PM

10. It may just be coincidence ...

 

but the more we hear from Mrs. Sanders, the darker his campaign becomes. The longer we go - the worse it becomes across the board, so maybe it's just coincidence.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:23 PM

11. Jane sure has those NRA talking points down pat!

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:25 AM

24. +1

Yep...it's almost like she didn't change a word, just parroted the standard NRA "politicizing gun tragedies is bad" speech. Maybe Bernie should just start stumping for Trump; he's already doing it anyway. Why not just be honest about it?

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:25 PM

12. shut up jane.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:40 PM

13. Trying to keep and gather more gun owners, although many gun owners are Dems

and who will vote for HRC. Not all gun owners think, believe nor act like the RW ones. Gun owners are strong in my family, and will vote for HRC because she is right.

No one is trying to take guns away. Sensible gun laws need to be in place. WTF is wrong with that?

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:54 PM

14. Huge mistake by Jane Sanders

The devastating pain of Sandy Hook massacre of the children and teachers is as fresh today as when it happened. There is nothing any politician or surrogate can do but be absolutely humbled by the heartbreak and courage of the survivors. The ONLY appropriate response is to listen with an open heart and mind and offer comfort. The Sanders family needs more humility and compassion in the face of tragedy and suffering. Their cynicism makes them look all the worse when you have families who you literally cannot hurt any more than they already have been.

They need to stop

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Response to Haveadream (Reply #14)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:30 AM

18. Those babies died.

Her response is ugly at best. I cried and cried when it happened. I could not stop crying. The trauma, the survivors went through will haunt them for the rest of there lives. That is a fact.







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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:00 AM

15. Jane fulfilling the natural role of a Sander's surrogate..

tanking his chances in a state thanks to tone deaf comments.

I wish she would take some the $27 donations and get to Vermont so she can release those tax returns.

I'm glad that she will never be the first lady.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:13 AM

16. How Trumpian of Ms. Jane. Shows a singular lack of compassion on her part. n/t

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:28 AM

17. I don't understand the reasoning anyway.

Why is it unreasonable to ask politicians to take on these challenges? The Sanders have an attribute I see sometimes in people who see everything in huge, broad strokes. It is hard for them to relate to the problems of individuals.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:42 AM

26. agree with you

I see Sanders as a more global thinker, and we need people like that. Ideas are important.

Moreover, I see Hillary as someone who can put ideas into practice, will plan and maneuver to get as much done as possible when faced with only intransigence from the other side.



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Response to apcalc (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:23 AM

44. No, sanders isn't a "global thinker".. he has nothing but smears and lies. we don't

need him at all.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:29 AM

19. The Sandy Hook families started fighting years ago...

Remember when they were ridiculed by members of GOP when they came to Washington? Or mocked by the group that feels this never happened?? These families deserve every voice that stands with them for better gun control laws...

Jane is mad because they didn't choose Bernie...she should have learned her lesson after the Daily News headline that began Bernie's big NY fail...this subject will never get them anywhere but further down... He just clinched losing CT.

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Response to Satch59 (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:29 AM

45. That's right.. she's just bitter because they don't want bernie. I can't imagine the geniuses

@ team BS thinking this is a good idea.. just like trying to divide the "Southern Voters".. now showing how brainless they are over the grief stricken parents of gun violence who chose Hillary. And, jeeze.. I wonder why? Could it be his dismal voting record on sensible gun laws?

You'd think they could come up with better strategies but no.. not them.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:45 AM

20. Mama Bear Jane needs to take a step back as a senior advisor to her husband's campaign

 

Jane is too protective of her husband to be his political advisor. I have seen her on numerous news interviews and I do not believe a former college president can be as politically disingenuous as she represents herself.
Here is another quote attributed to her in the wake of the New York primary:

"But top Sanders advisers said the senator had no plans to take the pressure off his Democratic rival as long as she keeps up her
critiques of the Vermont senator. 'We have received a lot of innuendo and dismissiveness and demeaning comments from the Clinton campaign - from the secretary herself and from her surrogates,' Jane Sanders, the candidate's wife and a close adviser, said in an interview. "He's not going to sit by and just not respond.'" Wall street Journal April 20, 2016

And this was after Hillary reached out to his campaign in her speech.

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Response to Whimsey (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:51 AM

37. "Jane is too protective of her husband to be his political advisor."

 

Sanders is being very badly served by his wife's blinkered, biased POV. She's doing him no favors.

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Response to Whimsey (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:37 AM

46. He's has no record to run on.. so team BS steals the goplaybook 101 that attacks & smears

her strengths and accuses her of what he's guilty of doing.

jane sanders has no class like all of his other surrogates are lacking.. cornel west, jonathan tasini, susan Sarandon, tim robbins, dr paul song, whatever.... I wouldn't even want to think of her as taking over Michelle Obama place.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:11 AM

21. Wow

I find this so incredibly hypocritical of Jane Sanders. Remember that ad Bernie had with Erica Garner? Why is it ok for Bernie to do that, but not Hillary?

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Response to sarae (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:53 AM

31. omg That just happened and I completely forgot that ad with Erica Garner

Good for Erica and all, making her choice and speaking out. More power to her!

It's laughable though to think of Hillary's spouse remarking on that, isn't it? Can you imagine?

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:45 AM

36. Can you just imagine Bill speaking out like Ms. Jane did on such an incendiary issue?

 

Can you imagine him ever daring to say in an MSM interview:

We have received a lot of innuendo and dismissiveness and demeaning comments from the Sanders campaign - from the Senator himself and from his surrogates.


The MSM would be down on him and Hillary like a ton of biased bricks. The Clintons would become a laughing stock within minutes of any such pronouncement.

The mind boggles.

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Response to Rose Siding (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 02:08 PM

50. very true...

If Bill Clinton had commented on that the way Jane Sanders did, there'd be critical news stories for weeks! They'd probably ask for a public apology from him.

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Response to sarae (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:56 AM

49. Can't agree more

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:22 AM

22. Compassion for the families of victims of gun violence would have gone a long

Way, I am surprised at the lack of compassion, double down, denial of bad votes by Sanders.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:18 AM

23. This back-woods Vermont woman is proving to be predictably ill-suited to

 

big-league national politics.

She encouraged BS's amateur and ill-advised Rome gambit.

She has repeatedly obfuscated and dissimulated about those invisible tax returns.

She has become her husband's whiner-in-chief, which diminishes both her and him.

And, she continues to insert her foot into her shit-eating grin on any media outlet available.

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:43 AM

27. You have said everything that I am thinking about her.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:51 AM

30. The BS alert stalkers are out in force, and I had my fourth hide yesterday. Soooo,

 

walking the razor's edge with every post.

The "back-woods" comment is so appropriate, but I hesitated for some time...

I can't wait for the BSer BS to disappear from this board!



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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:59 AM

32. Be careful! I have only had one hide, but if I didn't type and

then delete numerous posts, I'm sure I would have been penalized a long time ago!

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Response to livetohike (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:09 AM

35. Obviously abusive, as you can see in the OP, which is still up.

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=111178#top

All I did was cut & paste the SAME video that's in the OP for purposes of discussion...total BS, but to be expected.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1107&pid=111195





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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:33 AM

25. So says the folks who cynically tried to exploit Pope Francis...

to bolster their sagging campaign!

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Response to Princess Turandot (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:00 AM

41. My own first reaction upon

seeing this. The second was to feel the heartbreak of the SH victims' families at the thought that Jane would so callously misrepresent this meeting.

Perhaps I would be a better human being if I had had the second reaction first. But I am being honest.

I simply cannot imagine Jane Sanders filling the FLOTUS spot and doing us all proud - especially not after the magnificent Michelle Obama. Jane is too blinkered by Bernie and as tone-deaf as he. This incident is a prime example of that.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:49 AM

28. This woman is devoid of compassion. I was turned off by her the first time

I heard her speak. Hope Hillary's team ignores this. She doesn't deserve the attention. Grateful the Sanders family will never be in the White House.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:46 AM

48. I agree 100%

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:51 AM

29. Speaking of entitlement

This reeks of, "how dare you take the high ground, it's ours!" The moralizing left hates to have their purity cred impugned.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #29)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:59 AM

38. Yeah, just get down off this high-horse...I was up here first! LOLOL!

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #38)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:03 AM

42. Love your

graphic!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:05 AM

33. Bernie & Jane would love everyone to stop talking about stopping gun violence!

Sorry Jane, the only person those families can turn to for help in promoting gun control on a national level during this campaign is Hillary.

They already know they can't trust your husband to take on the NRA. His votes are on record.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 07:07 AM

34. Did they ask her about those taxes?

 

Release the taxes!!!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:08 AM

39. Sanders, both of them, need to do their homework regarding Clinton, the Sandy Hook shootiings....

....and the victims' families support for Clinton and Connecticut legislators.

She's just like her husband, throwing out the same tired old talking points without even looking into whether they're correct or not.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:55 AM

40. Hogwash, Jane!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:08 AM

43. Jane needs to GET A GRIP

and shut her mouth. AFTER all the bullshit that campaign has been pulling, this is just sickening, and TONE DEAF. What the hell? ONLY BERNIE can have an opinion or be right, right?

But, that's okay. 2.5+million votes ahead, 250+ pledged delegates ahead, so obviously HILLARY is doing something right!

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:45 AM

47. Hillary Clinton is being an advocate for families of gun violence victims

Something the Sanders' should feel ashamed of--their lack of compassion and advocacy.
Jane Sanders to have the nerve to insist this is something more shallow for Hillary Clinton is disgusting and desperate. What an awful person.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:44 PM

52. Of course, Jane. Yes, they've been through so much already. We should just let them be and ...

... pretend it never happened. Ignore it and it will go away. Nobody wants to hear about other people's problems. Grief is a private matter.



Good god! What is wrong with that woman??

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:55 AM

53. Disgusting.

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Response to Rose Siding (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 09:58 AM

54. Politicizing to you Jane

 

Makes it sound bad. Because they 're defending where they come up short in the issue!

What was that WHOLE VATICAN TRIP about????

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Response to Her Sister (Reply #54)

Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:57 PM

55. Jeffrey Sachs, Columbia professor

 

was responsible for approaching the Vatican for including Bernie in this already scheduled event. He has stated so. Bernie then made it out as if the Pope invited him. That is why there was so much confusion surrounding how it came about. Prof Sachs has a close relationship with the Vatican and they honored his wishes. Don't tell me it wasn't political on Sach's part as he knew this event coincided with the NY primary. He probably thought it would give Bernie a boost. He thought wrong.

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