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Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:23 PM

Can I hide out here for a while?

My wife and I are both 90%+ sure that we will vote for Hillary in the SC primary (and remember that it was SC that basically propelled Obama to the 2008 nomination).

I got a notice the other day that I have been barred from the Bernie Sanders forum.
My crime?
I posted a reply in a thread which I didn't even realize was in the Sanders forum about a ridiculous and misleading post. The title said that more Democrats were now supporting Sanders than Clinton, but the body of the text asserted that Clinton would lose the election if nominated. I replied that the post was both misleading and ridiculous. Not a comment that really had anything to do with which candidate I supported or why.
While I could appeal and have this action rescinded, I decided to put the group leader on my ignore list and stay away from such a narrow-minded and thin-skinned environment.
I am a huge fan of Bernie's, and think he is possibly the best current member of the US Senate. I can't support him in the primary because I think Clinton will likely win the general election while I am afraid Sanders would lose. And, I think Clinton would be best able to carry on effectively advancing a liberal agenda.
I think the next election, with its implications for Supreme Court appointments, campaign financing and voter suppression may be a major turning point in our history. Following 8 years of Obama with 8 more of a Democratic President should destroy the very real threat of the Tea Party fanatics and give us a progressive government and a sane opposition party.
I feel confidant that we will all come together behind our party's candidate when the primary is over - the stakes are too high not to win this one.
Peace.

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Reply Can I hide out here for a while? (Original post)
SCantiGOP Jun 2015 OP
onehandle Jun 2015 #1
SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #3
LoveMyCali Jun 2015 #13
shenmue Jun 2015 #2
lunamagica Jul 2015 #31
OKNancy Jun 2015 #4
Gothmog Jun 2015 #5
chemp Jun 2015 #6
redstateblues Jun 2015 #7
dlwickham Jun 2015 #9
Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #8
SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #10
George II Jul 2015 #23
question everything Jun 2015 #11
freshwest Jun 2015 #12
SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #16
Cha Jun 2015 #14
SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #15
Cha Jun 2015 #17
SCantiGOP Jun 2015 #18
Cha Jun 2015 #19
hrmjustin Jun 2015 #20
CherokeeDem Jul 2015 #21
msrizzo Jul 2015 #32
George II Jul 2015 #33
msrizzo Jul 2015 #38
CherokeeDem Jul 2015 #35
msrizzo Jul 2015 #39
George II Jul 2015 #22
yallerdawg Jul 2015 #24
George II Jul 2015 #34
calimary Jul 2015 #36
sheshe2 Jul 2015 #25
Maedhros Jul 2015 #26
hrmjustin Jul 2015 #28
rock Jul 2015 #27
misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #29
Iliyah Jul 2015 #30
calimary Jul 2015 #37

Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:44 PM

1. Of course. We like Hillary AND Obama here.

This is a safe place for Democrats at Democratic Underground.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:26 PM

3. Good point, onehandle

Think I'll just hunker down here and in The Lounge for a while. Kind of like going on R&R after combat.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:49 PM

13. Pretty much the only two places I go these days

Occasionally I will check out the Cooking and Baking forum but it's nice and safe in here.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:57 PM

2. Come on in, the water's fine.

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Response to shenmue (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 04:03 PM

31. And, we have cookies!

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:31 PM

4. Interesting point... about who would win the general

Even in that latest poll that showed Sanders getting closer to CLinton...when asked even the Sanders supporters said that Clinton would more likely win the general and not Sanders.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:48 PM

5. Welcome aboard

We are a fun group

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 06:15 PM

6. I'm finding thin skin everywhere

I post very rarely.
But having posted to both Sanders and Hillary OPs asking them to not count chickens and such, I would get blasted. We are a year away from determining our candidate, and truly hope that whoever wins, the other side will gather and vote for OUR candidate.
My state primary is a long time away, and despite leaning towards Bernie, I have every intention of voting for Hillary if she wins the nomination.
I remember eight short years ago when the infighting brewed between the Hillary, Obama and Edwards camps. Harsh words were thrown, many not ever forgiven.

I fear it is happening again.
I hate that it will. We need a united front behind the eventual candidate.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 06:26 PM

7. I was banned also

not knowing I was in the Bernie group when I responded to a ridiculous post. I agree with you. I like Bernie but I don't believe that Americans are going to elect a Socialist. I'm a little dismayed at how aggressive and harsh the Sanders Enforcers have become. I've only posted 1800 times in my 11 years here- Hopefully the nastiness will subside after the primaries.

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 09:38 PM

9. hopefully some of the Bernie bandwagon fans will leave DU after the primaries

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 07:30 PM

8. I am banned also, I can still tell the truth, will continue to tell the truth. I also want the best

candidate to win the DNC primary and then the presidency of the US. That person is Hillary Clinton. She is strong and able, she will do well in some areas and will not need to fake where she stands on an issue.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:01 PM

10. Let's stick together

I will be a bulldog fighting for the Dem candidate in Nov16 - the stakes are too high. President Bush III or President Cruz? Yes, that scares the shit out of me and makes me pack my heavy clothes for the move to Canada.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:39 PM

23. Thankfully I'm native born (Brooklyn) but have dual citizenship, so I don't even need a sponsor....

....to move up to Canada! Don't tell my wife.........

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:32 PM

11. Didn't realize that one can be banned from such a group

Has anyone been banned from here?

And were DUers banned from, say, Obama or Hillary, or Edwards forums in 2008? Don't remember whether there were dedicated groups.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:44 PM

12. Hang out here, this is an accepting group.

I barely caught myself before replying to a Bernie room post, a video that seemed to be of Sanders and Jessie Jackson but despite Bernie introducing Jessie, he wasn't in it. He must have been was edited out.

I voted for Jessie Jackson and believe he is a great man. I followed his movement very closely, and it seemed to build on the liberal tradition of JFK and RFK. It was very inclusive.

I was disgusted at how 'liberal' media treated him in interviews as if he was a joke or talked over him like he was not there. It was an eye opener. Then they did the same to Obama.

This video was in 1988 and 27 years have gone by and Bernie has not changed his theme one bit so I can say he's consistent. But he has not had the full brunt of the generation long hate machine created to stop Clinton which I believe many have swallowed, hook, line and sinker like bait.

And are more anti-HRC than pro-BS, sad to say, following the history of some of the posters. I was savaged out the gate for not agreeing with the very first post about the new group, not even in the group. I was sick of the attacks on HRC.

That is why I didn't post or Rec that thread a few minutes ago. And I won't contribute Recs or kicks to their threads which have mostly had to be driven out of GD, yet they keep on coming back, and also go to other forums to recruit.

I came here and stated my position of what I felt and said I was going to learn more about HRC - not the manufactured outrage, the real person. The group has been very tolerant of me and my concerns. I'm kinda wishy washy to some, I think. But the BS supporters drove me away with focusing more on not liking HRC than helping BS. I'm not going back.

So take it easy, this is a good place to take a breather.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:20 AM

16. We're on the same page, freshwest

I've been on DU for 15 years and it wasn't until a couple of months ago that I was really concerned about some of the sentiment here. Not the Sanders vs Clinton discussion; that is normal and healthy party politics. It was the many threads that took a position that Clinton (both of them) and Obama were just marginally better than the GOP.

BTW, I've met Jessie Jackson twice. He is sincere and committed, and takes his treatment from the press in stride. I voted for him before, and always wished he had come back to SC and run for Congress, but even with 1/3 AA population we only get one of 7 seats with majority minority and Jim Clyburn has that locked in for as long as he wants it.
Everyone knows of the tension between Clyburn and the Clintons in 08 over his early support of Obama. I can assure you he will be a force for Hillary in the next primary and I expect her to pull in 2/3 of the vote.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 03:23 AM

14. "While I could appeal and have this action rescinded" It's a good thing you didn't waste your

time doing that because I read in ATA the other day that Skinner has not overturned a verdict since the whole thing started.

Most of us will come together when the Primary's are over bc those are House Rules. We'll have our candidate and we won't be whining or bashing about whomever to be helping out the gop.

SC!

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:05 AM

15. Thanks, Cha

You're probably right.
My goodness you stay up late/get up early.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:22 AM

17. I'm on Kaua'i.. only 2:22am here.. the night is young!

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:25 AM

18. Peace and aloha

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 08:34 AM

19. Peace and Aloha to you too, SC~

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Mon Jun 29, 2015, 10:11 AM

20. You are welcome here.

 

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 05:30 PM

21. Welcome....

Last edited Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:24 PM - Edit history (1)

I knowingly replied to a post there regarding the use of a Peggy Noonan comment to make a point against Hillary. I didn't think Democrats should use Republican pundits to trash other Democrats. I never insulted Sanders, who I like very much, or his campaign. I got piled on, called clueless, all the while they were using the usual tactics to demean those they don't agree with. I answered their taunts and was banned for being a troll for answering the very posts they made against me.

You simply have to laugh at them.... They aren't doing their candidate justice. The worst thing is they claimed they didn't see anything wrong with quoting Noonan to use against Hillary. Unbelievable....

I did do one thing I know pissed them off... I told them I hadn't made up my mind about a candidate and at that moment, I hadn't... I did want to see more from O'Malley before I decided. But they pissed me off so much that I thought about it for a bit and decided since I knew I was going to end up supporting Hillary anyway, I'd just go ahead and make it public. They didn't like that either. But it was their doing.

I do hope we can come together when the primary is over. As you said, the stakes are too high.

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Response to CherokeeDem (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:11 PM

32. Ha Ha, you made me log on.....

I've just been lurking this election cycle. This is my first post in 4 years! I know I'm going to support Hillary but I don't want to fight with people about Bernie Sanders so I haven't been posting. But seriously, I just assume that every thread that has Bernie this or that or Feel the Bern or whatever is a thread that I don't want to leave a comment in. And I too like Bernie Sanders, but his supporters, that's another story.

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:21 PM

33. Stick around, if not "out there" at least in here.

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Response to George II (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:04 PM

38. Thanks I think I will.

Great to have a place I can get updates.

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:28 PM

35. I'm very happy to bring you back to posting on DU!

I think we have all learned our lessons about the "Feel the Bern" crowd.... safer to stay here!!!

Hope to hear more from you!!

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Response to CherokeeDem (Reply #35)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 08:05 PM

39. Thanks!

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2015, 08:33 PM

22. Just saw this, exactly the same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago...

...I innocently responded to a Sanders post that appeared under "Trending Now" on the Home Page. Little did I know it was from the Bernie Sanders Group, so I was castigated. When I explained that it wasn't fair that their "safe haven" posts appear on the Home Page - BAM! I was banned.

I don't know what to do, but really something has to be done about this. They zealously "DU-Rec" just about every post that has "Sanders" in the title, and lots of their Group posts wind up on the Home Page.

I've pointed out elsewhere that I've seen as many as four of the five posts under "Trending Now" that anyone who doesn't agree can't even respond to.

Any suggestions on how to remedy this situation, or do we just have to wait until he loses a few primaries and drops out?

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Response to yallerdawg (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:22 PM

34. I'm glad you found that and posted it this morning. I've bookmarked it for future "use"

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Response to George II (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:16 PM

36. Yes indeed. I found that one most illuminating.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:21 PM

25. Welcome~

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:26 PM

26. That will happen from time to time with any of the protected groups.

 

The BOG is particularly reactive that way.

It's best to check where the thread is residing before posting.

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Response to Maedhros (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:30 PM

28. First off this is the HRC room.

 

Second criticism of BOG is not appropriate here.

As host i ask you to self delete.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:29 PM

27. You can get banned in some of the groups here for telling the truth

Which shows you how thin-skinned some people are. Two notes:
1) I don't mean any of the Hillary Groups;
2) if you get to know most thin-skinned people you understand why they're thin-skinned (think about it).

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:32 PM

29. I've Trashed the BS Forum, The Progressive Forums AND the GDPrimaries Forum.

Their pre-scripted & overused replies are redundant, pointless & they Don't Talk To You, They Talk At You.
Just like their Candidate does.

I am enjoying DU.


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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 03:36 PM

30. Welcome!

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2015, 07:47 PM

37. Yes You Can!

WELCOME SCantiGOP!

You'll find we're supportive and inclusive here, and nobody jumps all over you! You're among friends - the more pragmatic and realistic ones around here, seems to me.

I certainly feel safer here.

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