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Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:03 AM

Kucinich wants to know if he should move to WA State

http://action.kucinich.us/page/s/washington-state-survey

Letter from Citizens for Kucinich
http://kucinich.us/washington-citizens-kucinich

This is what I said--

Yes, but not this year. You would need to move out here and establish yourself locally first. There are a number of progressive causes to work on for both you and Elizabeth (the local food movement is very strong here, and would provide connections to rural progressives--essential in a state like WA with a strong urban/rural divide.)

There would be many opportunities for lecturing, and possibly hosting a progressive radio show. After local people get the idea you really mean to stay, the "carpetbagger" tag would go away. You should consider it a permanent move--you may not win your first try. You would be starting over in all senses. The centrist establishment types won't like it no matter what--but there are also large numbers of people who have given up on electoral politics as hopeless who could be mobilized. There are lots of local Occupy groups.

You will have to consider a lifetime's worth of personal and political ties in the Cleveland area also. Making those kinds of connections here is going to take time. In Des Moines, you talked about movement building, and you should consider a potential move here in that light.


This is what his 2008 state campaign coordinator said--

"But not until 2014...because I am very close to the political scene here in the NW corner of WA State and there is strong opposition to your candidacy at this time. If Dennis and Elizabeth would settle in the NW Corner, both could build good, strong support by doing public appearances, holding meetings to discuss issues, teaching courses at a regional university, writing a book or some major articles, getting to know regional members of the media, and building a base that would be sustainable. It would be so good if Dennis didn't have to face strong opposition every two years.

Of course, many people are urging Dennis to run now; but they do not realize what he would be facing by running BEFORE building a strong base of support. The Kuciniches are not as well known -- really known -- as some might believe. Do this right and it will be a good "investment" long-term.

NOW -- IF Jim McDermott retires this year, then I would LOVE to see Dennis file to fill that spot. It is such a Progressive district that we would likely have Dennis as our representative for a very long time into the future. Besides, I live in the 7th and would really love to have Dennis as my representative in DC. It would be ideal!"

PS -- Please encourage Dennis and Elizabeth to move here, become much better known and appreciated, and lay the groundwork for a 2014 run from WA state. It would take two years of serious effort to build strong support, cultivate their strengths and be able to dispel the many fallacies that the mainstream, corporate media have created about Dennis. We definitely need more Progressives and there is none better than Dennis, IMHO, but failure in 2012 would be a major setback to what could be the continuation of a positive career. Your pushing him might lead to a disaster that would be highly regrettable.

Rebecca

The Alliance for Democracy
Pacific Northwest Council Representative
www.TheAllianceForDemocracy.org

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Reply Kucinich wants to know if he should move to WA State (Original post)
eridani Apr 2012 OP
regnaD kciN Apr 2012 #1
freshwest Apr 2012 #2
eridani Apr 2012 #5
pnwmom Apr 2012 #9
rsmith6621 Apr 2012 #3
pnwmom Apr 2012 #10
JDPriestly Apr 2012 #4
Ecumenist Apr 2012 #6
pnwmom Apr 2012 #12
cyclezealot Apr 2012 #13
The Wielding Truth Apr 2012 #7
pnwmom Apr 2012 #8
pnwmom Apr 2012 #11
eridani Apr 2012 #15
pnwmom Apr 2012 #16
eridani Apr 2012 #17
pnwmom Apr 2012 #18
eridani Apr 2012 #19
pnwmom Apr 2012 #20
Norrin Radd Apr 2012 #14
LWolf Apr 2012 #21
EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #22
mikelewis Jun 2012 #23
eridani Jun 2012 #24

Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:12 AM

1. I'd like to see him here...

...but agree that he'd have to take some time to settle in and become a regular northwesterner, active in political causes, before running for anything except water district board or something like that. Right now, the "carpetbagger" label would be toxic.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:13 AM

2. Why urge him to move to the NW corner of WA if there is strong opposition there? Why not south?

North and East of King County is red. Why bother to move to Bellingham, for example, to work to change people's minds if there is strong opposition, when other areas may be more open to Kucinich?

Just curious, this letter seems to contradict itself. But it's from someone who seems to know a lot, so I'm not arguing with them. Just wondering why the focus is on the NW corner of WA.

That's not where most of his support comes from, as far as I know, it's around the Seattle area that he has the most amount of people who agree with him. I've met a number of young Democrats who are follow his work and philosophies and would support him.

Other than that question, I don't have much to add.




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Response to freshwest (Reply #2)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:10 AM

5. The current opposition is from supporters of local progressive candidates

That would go away if Dennis established himself as a local resident.

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Response to eridani (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:10 AM

9. Why would that go away? We have other excellent progressive candidates running this year who

will hopefully be established before he could develop a strong foundation here.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:14 AM

3. I Met with Dennis Last Week in Seattle


.... And told him Washington State would be happy to have him be our Rep. in Congress,in his own time.

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Response to rsmith6621 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:14 AM

10. Do you speak for Washington state?

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I know I don't. I'm wondering how anyone could say that.

I've heard people suggest him for my district, which has just been changed. Reichert is out and Adam Smith is in. Why would I want Kucinich to come here and run against Adam Smith?

And, north of my district, we have several good Democrats running, including Suzan del Bene and Darcy Burner. If one of those progressive Democrats wins this year, why would that district be better off if Kucinich challenged her in two years?

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 02:19 AM

4. I think that Dennis Kucinich would be a great addition to the politics of the

West coast. We love diversity and new ideas. Kucinich would be welcome here. I'm in California.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:15 AM

6. Yes, indeed, JD! I'm here too, in the North State.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:21 AM

12. Maybe you should invite him to California.



He knows very little about a state like Washington, where 1/3 of the jobs are dependent on the actions of the Import/Export bank; where there is such a great divide between the western and eastern parts of the state; and where high tech and aerospace are such a huge part of the economy. How has representing Cleveland, OH prepared him for that?

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:26 AM

13. We Californian's would love him to come here.

His campaign workers did our best to develop a following.. Why should our work go unappreciated.. At Kucinich Rallies in Calif, Kucinich should have felt the warmth at his reception.. Washington State has too much rain for his optimistic nature.. Come to the south-west Dennis.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 03:30 AM

7. We need him in government. No matter where.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:08 AM

8. Why is he looking at Washington state in particular?

As mentioned above, Jim McDermott's spot might be a good fit, but that's assuming McDermott would be planning to retire -- and I haven't heard anything about that.

But what about all the other progressive districts in the country? Why is Kucinich so fascinated with Washington? Washington is a very different state than Ohio, and Cleveland isn't Seattle.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:16 AM

11. Not if he thinks we don't have enough good progressive candidates/office holders already.

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Not if he wants people to push Jim McDermott out, so that he can run in his place.

Not if he wants to run against another progressive, such as Adam Smith.

If he thinks he can beat a Republican in a red area, go for it. But I don't see how he could.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:49 AM

15. Rodney Tom progressive? Are you fucking kidding me?

This is one of the "Democrats" who joined with the Repukes to pass that secret budget, which was thankfully aborted.

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Response to eridani (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:00 AM

16. You're absolutely right. I meant to say Adam Smith.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:43 AM

17. Adam Smith is progressive in the OLD 9th CD

Unless he gets more in sync with the new 9th CD on issues like defending Social Security and Medicare, someone like Ron Sims or Bruce Harrell is going to take a run at him. Or Kucinich? But that can't work unless he establishes serious permanent residency.

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Response to eridani (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:50 AM

18. But what background does Kucinich have for Boeing/Microsoft issues?

And export issues? And eastern/western Washington issues? I just don't see his Ohio background as very useful here.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 05:57 AM

19. The local food movement is a potential bridge across the urban/rural divide

His position on fair trade is the same as the majority of the population in Western WA.

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Response to eridani (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 06:03 AM

20. What data do you have to back up your assertion about his position on fair trade,

in view of our dependence on exports?

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:39 AM

14. kr

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Apr 23, 2012, 08:46 AM

21. Since Washington isn't sure they want him, send him our way.

Not my way; he couldn't win in my district.

But there are plenty of places in Oregon he could, and I'd love to welcome him to the state.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:06 AM

22. Dennis should come and look at the 8th District.

Microsoft headquarters, Costco headquarters, many tech firms. Very diversified socio-economically.
Socially liberal, The current Repuke, Dave Reichert is ready to move on to either challenge Marie Cantwell
or a run for Governor. Long story why he was elected, basically for taking 17 years to catch the worse
serial killer why he was sheriff.

Last election Reichert won by 3pts. Two relative unknowns running. With some help from the outside
i really think this could happen.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 01:08 AM

23. Tell Dennis Kucinich to keep his ass in Ohio...

and run for Governor.

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Response to mikelewis (Reply #23)

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:28 AM

24. Not sure he is the administrative type.

He could have a very productive and active retirement in many areas.

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