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dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:54 PM Dec 2011

What do you make of these polls that have Gingrich ahead of Obama

in Ohio and PA? Even if you hate Obama do they really think that Gingrich is presidential material? Do they not remember that he had to leave the congress in disgrace with 84 ethics violations and the highest fine in the history of congress? Do they not know all the nasty things this man says and how crazy his policies are?

I am really worried for Obama who DEFINITELTY deserves another 4 years. He is everything you want in a President and Gingrich is the opposite.

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What do you make of these polls that have Gingrich ahead of Obama (Original Post) dennis4868 Dec 2011 OP
I think polls this far out from the actual poll (the vote) are best taken with a grain of salt. pinto Dec 2011 #1
you're probably right. dennis4868 Dec 2011 #2
No one can be certain of the future... Armin-A Dec 2011 #20
I really hope he gets the nomination Muskypundit Dec 2011 #3
Me too. I want him to lose it pop a gasket on national tv. Whisp Dec 2011 #7
At this point, I don't make too much of them. Bogart Dec 2011 #4
It probably indicates that Gingrich is polling ahead of Obama in Ohio and PA. eom tledford Dec 2011 #5
They don't remember anything but what the last few years' propaganda told them. freshwest Dec 2011 #6
Michigan has a GOP administration. If Romney is sufrommich Dec 2011 #8
No voter shenanigans there? Read a piece on GD of a meeting in Detroit designed to peel off.. freshwest Dec 2011 #9
It's a statistical result more than a year out. It'll go away -- unlike Newt's past. Pholus Dec 2011 #10
Good for you. Make people think. Goodness knows the media makes them dumb. freshwest Dec 2011 #16
NBC/WSJ: Gingrich At 40% With GOP, But Would Be Crushed By Obama 51-40 demosincebirth Dec 2011 #11
+1 DCBob Dec 2011 #13
Polling today shows Pres O crushing the Newt. AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #12
visual aid.. DCBob Dec 2011 #14
I have two thoughts on this. AtomicKitten Dec 2011 #15
Sorry, I know its kind of gross but I think it gets the point across. DCBob Dec 2011 #19
I can make a hat, a broach, a pterodactyl... jberryhill Dec 2011 #17
Obama is whooping Newt in all the 'national' polls - see below Tx4obama Dec 2011 #18
The really good news is that he beats every republican in almost every poll on that page. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #21
My response: I can't wait for the debates. Obama will mop the floor with him! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2011 #22
the first thing I would ask you is a link to the polls your speaking about to see who the pollster WI_DEM Dec 2011 #23

Armin-A

(367 posts)
20. No one can be certain of the future...
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:24 AM
Dec 2011

Even if it was showing Obama 90:10 or Obama 10 0

I think we all need to go out and do our part as much as possible. Let's win by a landslide!

Muskypundit

(717 posts)
3. I really hope he gets the nomination
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:06 PM
Dec 2011

He is the most easy to defeat out of all of the republican candidates. I am actually sad that his flavor of the month status came this early; he won't win any primaries now. He probably has two weeks left with how hard democrats are hitting him now.

It's unfortunate. We should be supporting Gingrich, because there is a greater chance of the world crashing into the black hole in the center of the universe than him even getting close to the white house.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
7. Me too. I want him to lose it pop a gasket on national tv.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:22 PM
Dec 2011

but of course to some of his supporters that will be a show of strength and power.

gack.

 

Bogart

(178 posts)
4. At this point, I don't make too much of them.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:06 PM
Dec 2011

GOPers are benefiting from the exposure that is part of the primary process.

Having said that, this is shaping up to be a very tight election. The middle is shrinking and since they are the least educated voters, the side with slickest ads is likely to win.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
6. They don't remember anything but what the last few years' propaganda told them.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:18 PM
Dec 2011

I don't expect Obama to carry any state with a GOP administration, either.

But the issue is not the regressives who will vote GOP or Tea Party no matter what.

If the Democratic Party was running Jesus, they'd vote against Him, period.

The issue is getting the Democratic vote out and the GOP has done an excellent job since 2000 disenfranchising voters and they have not stopped, in fact they have won most of the battle on this.



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. No voter shenanigans there? Read a piece on GD of a meeting in Detroit designed to peel off..
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:36 PM
Dec 2011

Democratic voters, a staged event to present the typical conservative line. Although I'd expect a backlash against what Synder has done, as well as some props for Obama on the auto industry.

As far as Ohio and Pennsylvania... not so much chance as Wisconsin. Although the little rebellion in Ohio over stripping public workers of their bargaining rights was heartening.

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
10. It's a statistical result more than a year out. It'll go away -- unlike Newt's past.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:47 PM
Dec 2011

I am loving discussing Newt with the local rethugs. I get to bash on Gingrich's "morals" and I get to bash them too. After all, if Newt's many and well documented transgressions are not relevant to his presidency right up front then why did we waste sooooo much time on how that blue dress disgraced the office of the president?

I get to tell them that their choice candidate tells me everything I need to know about their true views on morality. Then I laugh at them. I'm eating lunch with a few less people right now but after years of putting up with their crap this opening was a breath of fresh air.

It won't last though. Just remember, Huckabee was winning at this point last time around. We forget how long the race really is.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
21. The really good news is that he beats every republican in almost every poll on that page.
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 09:16 AM
Dec 2011

Simple due to random variance, he should lose more.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
23. the first thing I would ask you is a link to the polls your speaking about to see who the pollster
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:23 AM
Dec 2011

is and what the methodolgy is.

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