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Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:06 PM

I cannot vote for Labour where do I go?

Tis a conundrum. I think it obvious I am a progressive. I am an friend and a supporter of every disenfranchised and shat upon community. Corybn is an anti-semite. I cannot and will not vote for a party that he leads. One of my greatest friends is someone who escaped Iraq with nothing but a back pack when Saddam Hussein was hanging Jews in the public square. She came to the UK and worked her arse off to be a successful member of our community. She is planning to move to Israel cause safety is always key when life gets uncertain. It is a disgrace when Jewish members of our community are scared to live in this country of ours.

I cannot vote Labour, where the fuck do I go?

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Reply I cannot vote for Labour where do I go? (Original post)
Soph0571 Aug 2018 OP
nycbos Aug 2018 #1
DavidDvorkin Aug 2018 #2
T_i_B Aug 2018 #5
Pope George Ringo II Aug 2018 #3
shenmue Aug 2018 #4
Soph0571 Aug 2018 #6
LeftishBrit Aug 2018 #7
T_i_B Sep 2018 #8

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:19 PM

1. I am not at citizen of the UK.

But I realized that I would no longer have a political home in the UK because of the anti semitism in the Labour Party.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:35 PM

2. Question from an American

Are the Lib Dems an acceptable alternative? I assume not.

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Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 11:26 PM

5. I would say yes

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But that's just me.

It's not like people have forgotten the coalition though.

The Green Party is also more appealing than Labour right now. The Green Party is also home to the Mayor of Sheffield, Magid Magid, who famously banned Donald Trump from my hometown!

And on that note, I have recently moved house to South Yorkshire, with it's below par Labour councils, so I have even less reason to support Labour, regardless of which faction is in charge of them!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 06:44 PM

3. Corbyn's anti-semitism isn't even the entire list.

The way he's using Brexit to act like he was right in the first place, while letting the Tories/DUP burn the country to the ground, and daring relatively cosmopolitan Remain voters to find another party because he thinks they're harder to lose than the Leave nitwits is just over the top.

I might actually dislike the man more than Boris Johnson. Oh well, there's always the SNP. At least they don't build any major party platforms around doing something stupid and self-destructive in the name of pride.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2018, 07:35 PM

4. I really don't think Corbyn wants to hang Jews in the public square. Did he say that?

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Response to shenmue (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 30, 2018, 06:21 AM

6. So that should be the benchmark?

As long as he is not actually hanging Jews everything is OK?

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:27 PM

7. I'm also not a fan of Corbyn...

(Difficult sometimes to discuss him, as too many seem to regard him as either the Messiah or the Devil, but...) I am very uneasy about some of his comments on Jews, which are at best tone-deaf. I do NOT regard all criticisms of Israel as antisemitic, and am myself disgusted with the Netanyahu government and its policies and actions; but the comments on British 'Zionists' worry me; as do some of his associations with extremists (though let's not forget that May's government is openly propped up by a party with distinct past associations with terrorists). I also think that he's a classic poacher-turned-gamekeeper in his authoritarian attitude to his party; and just like Blair in fact, has a lot of good ideas, but not enough interest in detail to achieve them adequately. Other parties? Depends a bit where you are, and what your exact views are. LibDem, or, if one can't get over their involvement in the coalition, Green or, where they exist, the National Health Action party, are possibilities.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Sep 3, 2018, 01:07 AM

8. I was disillusioned with Labour under Blair....

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....I am now disillusioned with Labour under Corbyn. Albeit for very different reasons. Corbyn might never invade Iraq, but he has lurched from one anti-semitism scandal to another. That would have been unthinkable under any previous Labour leader. Labour and Momentum's clear issues with anti-semitism make it increasingly difficult for Labour to oppose bigotry with much credibility.

Labour has veered from one extreme to another without ever pausing to try and strike a happy medium. A situation that is not helped by the various internal factions, who seem far more interested in fighting each other than fighting for the common good.

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