"Labour Uncut" calls for Labour MPs to run as independents AGAINST the Labour Party!

[Ken Burch]

Can even the anti-Corbynites here defend this?

http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2017/04/20/corbyn-has-doomed-labour-time-to-vote-tactically-for-the-strongest-opposition-to-brexit/#more-21500

Any Labour MP with integrity, or a sense of duty to provide real opposition to the Tories, and especially to oppose the madness that is Brexit, should resign the whip and stand as Independent Labour, Co-Operative Labour, Classic labour, anything that will restore credibility and distance from the Corbyn debacle. This is their only way out.

And the piece repeated the slander that Corbyn supported Hamas, Hezbollah and the IRA-when all he did was support trying to get those groups to negotiate...and negotiations involving Sinn Fein were the ONLY thing that made the GFA possible, and when the only chance for peace in Israel/Palestine and Lebanon is to get everybody negotiating, since it's not possible to resolve either conflict militarily.

[hrmjustin]

1. This is madness.

Corbyn is on his way out if they lose a third election so I see no reason to do this.

[Ken Burch]

2. Thank you for saying that.

n/t.

[Denzil_DC]

3. Well, you know I'm no kneejerk anti-Corbynite, but what do you expect?

(And I had a mercifully brief run-in the other day on an LBN thread with someone spouting the Hamas/anti-Semite crap.)

There's large body of Labour voters who're effectively disenfranchised in the Brexit debate by the party's current stance.



From the relatively strong speeches Corbyn's been making so far since the election was called, it seems he wants to fight conventionally on social issues and the Tories' parlous record in government, with an attempt at a strongly populist/anti-establishment stance, and all but ignore Brexit so far except to say Labour won't back a second referendum. There are dots to be joined there, but so far there's no acknowledgement from him of what an unprecedented power grab the Great Repeal Bill would be for the Tories.

What you report may be at least partly an opportunist attempt at continuing the split, but from what I can see, it reflects widespread frustration with Labour's capitulation to May's Brexit agenda.

Meanwhile, there are already some interesting cross-party local initiatives. It remains to be seen whether they'll bear any fruit. Here are a couple of examples:

Suffolk EU Alliance
https://www.suffolkeualliance.co.uk/

Sinn Fein, SDLP and Greens discuss anti-Brexit alliance in run up to general election
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2017/sinn-fein-sdlp-and-greens-discuss-antibrexit-alliance-in-run-up-to-general-election-35639872.html

[Ken Burch]

4. Still puzzles me that 4% of UKIP supporters voted "Remain".

I mean...they DID realize which party they supported, didn't they?

[LeftishBrit]

5. Such small numbers could be confusion in form-filling, etc.

But also the 4% could include far-right British-teabagger types who nevertheless recognized the economic value of staying in the EU.

I believe that while most Europaean far-right leaders are in favour of taking their countries out of the EU, not all are. Hofer in Austria wasn't IIRC. UKIP Remainers may be in the same category. And/or they may just be thick.