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Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:22 AM Jun 2012

Family shocker! My brother and SIL are NOT supporting Walker this time around.

They are both voting for Barrett and Mitchell today. Here's the story.

My little bro works at Quad Graphics and has for over 20 years. It's a great company, but VERY anti-union. He tends to go with the flow which is repug there (except for Obama) and she's, well, an idiot in her own right. They were both supporting Walker up until very recently, with my brother cracking first. The funny story is my SIL.

She was a stauch Walker supporter and very smug about it; refused to sign the recall petition and would not let my brother sign either. She's the type that likes to pretend she belongs in his "club."

Then a month or so ago something happened at my nieces school--some cuts were made that really affected the kids (I think it was funding for a summer retreat). SHE WAS PISSED! She called my sister and I both, completely in a snit as to how this could happen at their school. My sister loved telling her it was Walker's cuts. She HATES him now. LOVE IT!!

I'm a wreck today. I thought this might lighten the mood a bit! I hope so!

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Family shocker! My brother and SIL are NOT supporting Walker this time around. (Original Post) Greybnk48 Jun 2012 OP
Glad to hear it... Kalidurga Jun 2012 #1
Good point. Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #7
Thanks for the smile. think Jun 2012 #2
We're all wrecks today. Jackpine Radical Jun 2012 #3
I never have trouble sleeping. I did last night. postulater Jun 2012 #32
Great news. Woody Woodpecker Jun 2012 #4
My home room teacher in high school, 35 years ago, was rather strange but... Cary Jun 2012 #5
California used to have free college tuition for residents Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #12
It wasn't free, but was heavily subsidized -- tuition LuckyLib Jun 2012 #17
I think that you are right for the State colleges while the State universities may have charged AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #18
My sis went to San Diego state in the early 60's. Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #28
Whaaat?! abelenkpe Jun 2012 #26
I went to San Diego State and the tuition was $80 per semester kemah Jun 2012 #30
There are also numerous loopholes nineteen50 Jun 2012 #24
Thanks for the story Gothmog Jun 2012 #6
Good story, need a little levity Lifelong Protester Jun 2012 #8
I can't move my neck and it's only 10 a.m. n/t Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #13
Unfortunately, my in-laws, who were both teachers Bonduel Jun 2012 #9
You might want to inform them that a vote for Walker is a vote think Jun 2012 #10
Welcome Bonduel... This *is* nervewracking! shcrane71 Jun 2012 #11
Tell them to look up Walker and recalls. He loves them Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #14
My in-laws are very principled people. Bonduel Jun 2012 #33
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Henley96 Jun 2012 #15
Welcome Henley96 Greybnk48 Jun 2012 #16
63 Million Dollars VRS 6 Million Dollars? Old Vet Jun 2012 #19
Good question. Good thing that Barrett didn't have triangulating-advisors. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #21
Some of those in the deer-hunting counties should also have a turn-around in their thinking AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #20
I am so scared Worried senior Jun 2012 #22
Me too :) abelenkpe Jun 2012 #27
It won't take very many shifts like that to make the difference. existentialist Jun 2012 #23
I love how people never think cuts will affect them directly. Chorophyll Jun 2012 #25
It is the typical "I agree with what Walker is doing" MiniMe Jun 2012 #29
It's all fun and games for the Repug's until they finally have something happen to them. harun Jun 2012 #31

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
1. Glad to hear it...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:25 AM
Jun 2012

At least she cares about her kids enough to change her mind. Hopefully other parents will have the same reaction.

 

Woody Woodpecker

(562 posts)
4. Great news.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:28 AM
Jun 2012

I just hope the numbers like your bro and sil will rise by the thousands of dissatisfied WI residents who has buyer's remorse.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
5. My home room teacher in high school, 35 years ago, was rather strange but...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:30 AM
Jun 2012

...interesting. The word was that he had a steel plate in his head from an accident. His eyebrows would go up and down uncontrollably.

35 years ago the rage was California Proposition 13 and this fellow who seemed old to me, would give out his usual strange giggle and utter something about how if you cut taxes you can't pay for things. To this day I'm quite certain what he was getting at but it seems he was prescient in a way. A few years later we got Reagan, who started us down this pernicious "supply-side economics" path.

I wouldn't think that my home room teacher would be a Keynesian, but maybe he was?

California Proposition 13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_13_%281978%29

And look at California now.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
12. California used to have free college tuition for residents
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jun 2012

in the 60's if I'm not mistaken. The Reagan era and it's fallout is such a shame. And sadly, many today don't know what they're missing. A few extra bucks on our tax bills makes a huge positive difference.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
17. It wasn't free, but was heavily subsidized -- tuition
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

at the Univ of California in 1966 for a full course load was $81 per quarter. That's $458 in today's dollars, or $1374 for an academic year. Californians believed in supporting young people through college, "investing" in the future.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
18. I think that you are right for the State colleges while the State universities may have charged
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jun 2012

a small amount.

Later, the State colleges (or many of them) were rolled into the California University system.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
28. My sis went to San Diego state in the early 60's.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:33 PM
Jun 2012

I'll ask her next time we talk, but I think her tuition was free.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
26. Whaaat?!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jun 2012

Really? I'd pay more so my kids could go to college for free. My hubby and I both moved here for graduate school. Despite large scholarships we had to take out loans and pay on them for years. (Why we missed the housing bubble...probably a good thing) Anyway we've been living and working here and now have two kids. Would love it if they didn't have to bear such a burden.

kemah

(276 posts)
30. I went to San Diego State and the tuition was $80 per semester
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

California believed in that giving an individual a free education it would get its money back by the individual having to pay a higher state income tax the rest of their working lives. So it was a win win for the student and the state.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
24. There are also numerous loopholes
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

written to allow corporate and business to get around reassessments to current values when property ownership changes hands.

 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
9. Unfortunately, my in-laws, who were both teachers
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:48 AM
Jun 2012

are voting for Walker because they are so pissed about the recall. They voted for Barrett the last time around but are sick and tired of all the recalls. I told them to stay home. Don't vote if you don't like the recall, but don't vote for Walker.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
10. You might want to inform them that a vote for Walker is a vote
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:53 AM
Jun 2012

for Koch Industries who is trying to buy this election for it's anti union and anti environmental agenda:

http://www.kochwatch.org/

I don't know if this would help or if they know about the millions of dollars Koch has dumped into Wisconsin to keep their puppet in office. But if they don't know they should before voting for the likes of Scott Walker.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
14. Tell them to look up Walker and recalls. He loves them
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:02 AM
Jun 2012

and was in office in Milwaukee due to a recall he supported. Tell them that before they vote.

 

Bonduel

(96 posts)
33. My in-laws are very principled people.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:23 PM
Jun 2012

If they don't agree with something they aren't going to do it because the other side does. I have mentioned that Walker was part of a recall. They don't care. They believe it is wrong and nothing is going to change their mind. It is very frustrating

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
19. 63 Million Dollars VRS 6 Million Dollars?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jun 2012

I fear whats happening in WI will be the template for the general Election. Due to Citizens United in my Lifetime I will witness a election being bought and paid for.(Presidential) Although Barrett is giving it hell and common sense dictates the little guy will be decimated by walkers policies. How do you compete against such money? I wholeheartedly believe Romney will far surpass a BILLION dollars in negative ads.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
21. Good question. Good thing that Barrett didn't have triangulating-advisors.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jun 2012

It may be that the distinction between his policies and Walker's policies may allow him to win notwithstanding being out-spent.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
20. Some of those in the deer-hunting counties should also have a turn-around in their thinking
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jun 2012

if they know Walker and his appointee wants to squeeze out the working-class hunters and reserve what is now public land for the super-rich.

Walker probably has adverse plans for all working-class supporters. Let's hope that they find out before the day is over.

Worried senior

(1,328 posts)
22. I am so scared
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jun 2012

my stomach is rolling. Don't even want to look at the news this evening for fear it doesn't go our way.

existentialist

(2,190 posts)
23. It won't take very many shifts like that to make the difference.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jun 2012

I just hope that they have happened in time.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
25. I love how people never think cuts will affect them directly.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:39 PM
Jun 2012

It'd be funny if they didn't keep voting against themselves all the time.

Glad your SIL woke up.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
29. It is the typical "I agree with what Walker is doing"
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

until it affects them personally. Then it is "how dare he do that"

harun

(11,348 posts)
31. It's all fun and games for the Repug's until they finally have something happen to them.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jun 2012

Only then do they realize they screwed themselves.

Selfish idiots don't mind seeing others get screwed but once it happens to them "Oh, wait, this actally SUCKS!!!!".

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