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FAIRSHAREPA (Original Post) PADemD Jan 2015 OP
I found the site Curmudgeoness Jan 2015 #1
State Senate GOP wonders also; suspects it's (gasp!) unions Divernan Jan 2015 #2
Thank you for your explanation. PADemD Jan 2015 #3
Interesting talk w/Pitt public health professor re UPMC Divernan Jan 2015 #4

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. I found the site
Thu Jan 22, 2015, 06:53 PM
Jan 2015

but I have not heard of it before.

http://www.fairsharepennsylvania.com/

It looks like it might become a good reference for progressive causes, but I will wait and see. It seems strange that they would do a mailing before they had it all ready to run. Right now, the only issue they are addressing is the abuses of tax-exemptions for non-profits that are not really charitable. It would be worth watching.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
2. State Senate GOP wonders also; suspects it's (gasp!) unions
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 09:00 AM
Jan 2015

I had a lengthy conversation with my GOP state senator's senior Harrisburg staffer about SB4 (printer's number 168. According to the official Senate website as of yesterday, Jan. 23, the bill had been referred to the state senate Finance Committee on Jan. 20th. The staffer informed me that the Finance Committee already voted it out as of the 23rd - so it is being fast-tracked. The bill proposes a change to the state constitution which will allow the general assembly to pass laws saying which non-profits qualify as (untaxable) "purely public charities." At present, that is done by the State Supreme Court in it's role of interpreting the state constitution.

I'll get into the details and background of the bill below, but would remind you all that the General Assembly has to pass proposed legislation which requires a change to the state constitution, in two successive sessions. It has already passed in the last session, so passage of this current bill by both chambers would (absent a gubernatorial veto or same being overridden) get this on the ballot - probably the May 19th primary - which being an off year and a primary, will have a depressingly lower than the already abysmally low voter turnout.

The GOP staffer attempted to justify the Senator's support of this bill by saying the Senator was concerned that the Supreme Court was legislating from the bench. I responded by pointing out that the Supreme Court's 5 point test for what constituted a purely public charity was quite straight-forward, whereas the language of SB 4 was suspiciously vague and if passed, guaranteed to flush out lobbyists with fat checks to "fine-tune" the legislation with specific language to benefit the like of international medical corporation UPMC. I stated I preferred legislation from the bench to legislation from lobbyists' checkbooks. I also pointed out the extreme unpopularity in Allegheny County of UPMC and its exorbitantly paid ($6-7 million per year) CEO, Jeff Romoff, and pointed out that the Senator would be forever tied to Romoff & UPMC in the public view should he support this bill.

I asked him if he knew who was behind the mailings opposing SB4, and he replied with some frustration: "We've been wondering about that too. We think it's the unions."

The current standard for determining whether an orgnization is a purely public charity is set out in the 1985 ruling in Hospital Utilization Project v. Commonwealth - hence the acronym HUP.

As detailed on the Fair Share website,
ALL“purely public” charities in Pennsylvania must meet EACH and EVERY SINGLE one of these 5 requirements in ordered to be categorized as such:

1. Advances a CHARITABLE purpose
2. Donates or renders GRATUITOUSLY a substantial portion of its services
3. BENEFITS a substantial and indefinite class of persons who are LEGITIMATE subjects of CHARITY
4. Relieves the government of some of its BURDEN
5. Operates entirely FREE from private profit motive

*Hospital Utilization Project v. Commonwealth, 487 A.2d 1306, 1317 (Pa. 1985).


In practice, at least in my county, municipal/taxing bodies (local, county, school districts) can negotiate with alleged "non-profits" such as international profit-making UPMC, regarding how much the non-profits will agree to pay in lieu of being fully taxed.

Here's an excellent article from the Trib-Review detailing both sides of the argument:

Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said city taxpayers should not subsidize the $10 billion hospital system that has fueled UPMC's rise as Pennsylvania's largest employer and the region's richest nonprofit organization.

Ravenstahl on Wednesday filed a lawsuit seeking to eliminate UPMC's exemption from paying the city's payroll tax and separately challenged the tax-exempt status of UPMC's 150 properties in the city.

“We know that UPMC is no doubt prepared to spend a lot of those billions of dollars to fight what we're trying to do,” Ravenstahl said during a news conference, joined by fellow Democrats and Service Employees International Union members who urged him to challenge UPMC. “It's kind of David versus the Goliath.”


Read more: http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/3696701-74/tax-upmc-exempt#ixzz3Pk0FszHe
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Really, you all need to read this entire article to understand the situation. And kudos to the Trib-Review for a thorough article (which I believe comes down as anti-UPMC).

Bottom line: I believe UPMC has already greased the wheels of the majority of state legislators - particularly the Republicans, and this Senate Bill and a sister bill in the House will sail through in a matter of weeks - then go to a conference committee of the 2 chambers to reconcile any language differences, get a final vote from both chambers and land on the governor's desk. Wolf can veto and then the question is whether UPMC has bribed enough legislators to override a veto (which UPMC can easily afford to do - our PA legislators come pretty cheap - a couple of thousand per legislator would be pocket change to UPMC). However, should this bill get onto the ballot, and if whatever deep pocket is sending out multiple high-gloss, expensive mailings (I've gotten four of them) chooses to continue its opposition, I think the public will defeat it. If it should pass, we can look forward to UPMC going from paying property tax on some 51% of it's property (as the curent agreement w/Pittsburgh provides) to paying zero tax at all. Because megalomaniac Jeff Romoff is that greedy.


PADemD

(4,482 posts)
3. Thank you for your explanation.
Sat Jan 24, 2015, 09:16 AM
Jan 2015

I will read the article and tell my local Democratic friends about the article.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
4. Interesting talk w/Pitt public health professor re UPMC
Sun Jan 25, 2015, 12:57 AM
Jan 2015

I'm a VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistant) in a program sponsored by United Way/local food banks - we prepare returns mainly for the elderly and poor working individuals & families. I just reported to my assigned location for work yesterday for the first time. Another volunteer there is a Univ. of Pittsburgh professor of public health. We had a break toward the end of the day and I brought up this whole Senate Bill 4 issue. As to UPMC, he mentioned the new uber luxury facility/hospital in Monroeville, PA, called UPMC East. I said I'd read descriptions of the place: all rooms are private rooms, each equipped with flat screen television; that patients' menus include goodies like pizza cooked in a wood fired oven; etc. He said that several of his students had done internships there and reported it was as luxurious as a 5 star hotel/country club.

He agreed with my assessment that if this bill passed, allowing legislators to set the standards for what constitutes purely public charities, that Romoff could dictate specific regulations such that UPMC paid NO taxes.

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