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disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
Tue May 1, 2018, 10:45 AM May 2018

May 5 - Bernie Sanders Rally in Lancaster for Jess King #PA11

Thought this needed a bit of exposure in the PA group..

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/1280222267|


This Saturday, May 5th, Senator Bernie Sanders is coming to Lancaster, PA, to rally with Jess King.

Musser Park
135 N Lime St
Lancaster, PA 17602
Rally begins at 10:30.

Senator Sanders is traveling to South Central PA because what’s happening here isn’t just about whether a Democrat or a Republican wins another seat in Congress. Across this country, Americans are coming together to say that our democracy belongs to all of us, not just a few corporate donors and lobbyists. We are building a movement to rewrite the rules of an economy that has been rigged to favor the wealthy and well-connected. Bringing our vision and our voice to Washington D.C. is hard. It’s going to take all of us - together. We need to inspire thousands of Pennsylvanians to get involved in politics and join our movement.

That’s why I’m standing alongside Senator Sanders this weekend. I hope you will join us and invite your friends and family.

Rally features Senator Bernie Sanders, candidate Jess King, community leaders, and campaign volunteers. Local Band, Vinegar Creek Constituency, begins at 10AM.

https://events.mobilizeamerica.io/jesskingforcongress/event/1045/


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May 5 - Bernie Sanders Rally in Lancaster for Jess King #PA11 (Original Post) disillusioned73 May 2018 OP
It Is About Whether A Dem Or Con Wins Me. May 2018 #1
Here ya go.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #3
I Saw That When I Looked For Myself Me. May 2018 #4
She's the only Dem on the ballot RandySF May 2018 #5
Hartman was the establishment choice originally.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #7
A. It Wasn't A Smear Me. May 2018 #8
This post is about Jess King.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #9
I Would Ask The Same Of You Me. May 2018 #10
lmao.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #11
Clearly you don't Want To Answer Me. May 2018 #12
Has "Our Revolution" stated that it is a Democratic org? ehrnst May 2018 #13
You Won't See It Me. May 2018 #14
No they haven't. In fact Nina (and she says Bernie as well) would support non-Democrats.... George II May 2018 #21
Well, if a politician isn't in your party, they can't be relied on to ehrnst May 2018 #23
No actually they have not. sheshe2 May 2018 #22
Our Revolution doesn't earn the support of those who aren't in their organzation. ehrnst May 2018 #24
You are with Nina? Do you mean you agree with her whan she says she is willing to lunamagica May 2018 #16
No answer. Wonder why. (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #19
Nina Turner on the day she became head of Our Revolution (CM is interviewer, NT is Nina): George II May 2018 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF May 2018 #2
Jess King is the only Democrat on the ballot in this district RandySF May 2018 #6
"what's happening here isn't just about whether a Democrat or a Republican wins another seat in Cong lunamagica May 2018 #15
Oh goodness.. disillusioned73 May 2018 #17
But Still No Answer Me. May 2018 #18

Me.

(35,454 posts)
1. It Is About Whether A Dem Or Con Wins
Tue May 1, 2018, 10:54 AM
May 2018

What kind of statement is that and is Jess King an actual Democrat or simple running as one?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. I Saw That When I Looked For Myself
Tue May 1, 2018, 11:28 AM
May 2018

It doesn't actually say what her affiliation is, only that she's running for a Dem spot. (unless I missed it) Is she an actual Dem, for how long? And just to say, there have been cases lately of people trying to run as Dems or Greens who have turned out to be Cons. Further, Our REvolution Pres. Nina Turner says she'd vote for a Con if they walked her talk.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
8. A. It Wasn't A Smear
Tue May 1, 2018, 12:55 PM
May 2018

Those are Nina's words, so please don't make untrue accusations

B. Given post #7...it seems to me this is an OR candidate and they're just not saying so

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
9. This post is about Jess King..
Tue May 1, 2018, 01:04 PM
May 2018

She is the Dem candidate in PA11. The only other candidate is a Republican, are you here to promote the Republican candidate??

Me.

(35,454 posts)
10. I Would Ask The Same Of You
Tue May 1, 2018, 01:07 PM
May 2018

It does matter if the candidate is a DEM or Con. And I'm asking if the person running is actually a DeM. Is that clarification a problem?

And, as the announcement says we are building a movement I am wondering if this is an OR situation rather than anything else. As you know people who aren't actually DEms have used the DEM banner to run before.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
11. lmao..
Tue May 1, 2018, 01:10 PM
May 2018

you obviously know she's a Dem but continue this obvious play of bewilderment.. maybe you were a Hartman supporter.. my condolences to another failed campaign.. Good day

Me.

(35,454 posts)
14. You Won't See It
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:05 PM
May 2018

as you know because they don't support DEms, just use stealth to snag a position in the Dem party

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. No they haven't. In fact Nina (and she says Bernie as well) would support non-Democrats....
Wed May 2, 2018, 08:01 PM
May 2018

See my post #20 here, from an interview with The Nation the day she became head of Our Revolution.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
23. Well, if a politician isn't in your party, they can't be relied on to
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:14 AM
May 2018

be consistent with the party platform, or contribute in any way to the success, infrastructure or reliable leadership of the party.

When a politician refuses to join a party, but wants to make party decisions, that is a clear message about what purpose the party serves for them.

Same goes for organizations....

sheshe2

(83,583 posts)
22. No actually they have not.
Wed May 2, 2018, 10:16 PM
May 2018

They have however said.

“How will Our Revolution relate to the DNC, the DCCC, the DSCC, that kind of establishment that so many activists and politicians, including you, have frequently criticized?” Her response was “I don’t think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It’s their job to fit in with us.” That mirrors how Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has handled his entire political career. It is also why he has few real accomplishments to his name after over forty years in office.


It may behoove Ms. Turner to take a few moments on this July 4th to reread our constitution and realize to make progress on her goals may require some compromise. That is how the founding fathers set up our government. It doesn’t mean compromising your principles, it does mean working steadily toward your goals. Winston Churchill is credited with saying “Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”

Meyerson went on to ask “And how will Our Revolution relate to progressives within government who didn’t back Bernie, like Sherrod Brown and Tammy Baldwin, if they go on to seek reelection?” Her response is an indication of what is clearly self-destructive about both Nina Turner and ‘Our Revolution’. She said about those two successful and respected progressives
“If they want Our Revolution’s endorsement they will seek it like everybody else and so they gotta start with the local affiliates, and if the local affiliates say that this is the person that we want to back, then there it is. There it is.”


snip

There were a number of other surprising statements from Turner in the same Meyerson interview. They include who ‘Our Revolution’ would consider endorsing. She said “And for me, I’ve also heard the senator (referring to Sanders) say this lately too: Let’s put the political affiliation to the side. If there is a Republican or a Libertarian or Green Party person that believes in Medicare for all, then that’s our kind of person. If there’s somebody that believes that Citizens United needs to be overturned, that we need the 28th amendment to the Constitution that declares that money, corporate money, is not speech and that corporations should not have more speech than Mrs. Johnson down the street and Mr. Gonzalez around the corner, then that’s our kind of people.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nina-turner-our-revolution-president-from-democrat_us_595a4413e4b0c85b96c66373

So said. The Revolution supports GOP and Greens. Her words, not mine.
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. Our Revolution doesn't earn the support of those who aren't in their organzation.
Thu May 3, 2018, 07:16 AM
May 2018

Let alone the respect for their strategies, which aren't really producing much more than salaries for their senior staff.

And it appears they think that this somehow gives them credibility, and makes them more "ethical' and 'above' the political partisanship that they have decided to jump into headfirst and don't seem to navigate well.

Sounds familiar.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Nina Turner on the day she became head of Our Revolution (CM is interviewer, NT is Nina):
Wed May 2, 2018, 11:13 AM
May 2018

CM: How will Our Revolution relate to the DNC, the DCCC, the DSCC, that kind of establishment that so many activists and politicians, including you, have frequently criticized?

NT: I don’t think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It’s their job to fit in with us.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

CM: And what about the Democratic Party at large. Do you see Our Revolution working to bring some unity to factions in the party?

NT: No. Not really.....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

CM: Will the group be endorsing non-Democrats?

NT: You know what, yes. We are open to it. And for me, I’ve also heard the senator say this lately too

https://www.thenation.com/article/nina-turner-it-is-not-our-job-to-fit-into-the-democratic-establishment/

Response to disillusioned73 (Original post)

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
15. "what's happening here isn't just about whether a Democrat or a Republican wins another seat in Cong
Tue May 1, 2018, 08:31 PM
May 2018

Congress."

What? What does this even mean? Is she another candidate who want to use the Democratic party to run, but who isn't one, and osn't even committed to become and remain one?

We need answers

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