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Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:44 PM

WI. Voting machines and the MN. connection

Meet Command Central, the People in Charge of Wisconsin Voting Machines

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Forty-six Wisconsin counties and 3,000 voting machines are being controlled by a two-person company operating out of a strip mall in Minnesota

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Uh…down the hall from Michelle Bachman's campaign office



http://wcmcoop.com/members/meet-command-central-the-people-in-charge-of-wisconsin-voting-machines/

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Reply WI. Voting machines and the MN. connection (Original post)
glinda Jun 2012 OP
RobertEarl Jun 2012 #1
glinda Jun 2012 #3
crazylikafox Jun 2012 #2
SoutherDem Jun 2012 #4
Mister Ed Jun 2012 #8
snacker Jun 2012 #5
Blue Owl Jun 2012 #6
riverwalker Jun 2012 #7
itsrigged Jul 2012 #9
glinda Jul 2012 #10
itsrigged Jul 2012 #11
MADem Jul 2012 #12
itsrigged Jul 2012 #13
glinda Jul 2012 #14
itsrigged Jul 2012 #15
itsrigged Jul 2012 #16
glinda Jul 2012 #17

Response to glinda (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:48 PM

1. No surprise there

 

Heck, just 3 people run DU, right?

And how hard is it to change the outcome on a computer?

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:55 PM

3. Three people plus many others that help.....

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Response to glinda (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:54 PM

2. Frightening. Independent paper trail audits for EVERY election. That's what we need.

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Response to glinda (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:56 PM

4. What type of machine do they use?


How are they verified?
How are they secured?
How simple are they to rig?

I recall hearing how one particular type of touch screen machine with no paper back-up, I don't remember the type or brand, which if someone knew how to do it and had the correct software could fix the machines in less than 5 minutes each and do so in a way it would be almost impossible to detect.


I know Wisconsin used a real ballot so there is a paper backup.
But, does anyone know how ballots are verified? Are the machines trusted? Are any randomly verified by the actual paper ballots? Are there any checks and balances?

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Response to SoutherDem (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:09 PM

8. From what I've read elsewhere on DU, they're touch-screen machines...

...and not the optical-scan machines that most voters in Wisconsin (and Minnesota) have been accustomed to.

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Response to glinda (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:58 PM

5. People really need to be educated about this.

Many counties in Wisconsin were given free voting machines from Command Central this year...coincidence?

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Response to glinda (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:15 AM

6. Thanks for reposting this

:kick:

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Response to glinda (Original post)

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:42 AM

7. I am volunteer vote counter

http://www.ceimn.org/


www.ceimn.org
Citizens for Election Integrity Minnesota
Count Every Vote


Every election they need volunteers. When I did it, we counted paper ballots to make sure they matched the electronic tallies. It was fascinating and fun.

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Response to glinda (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:51 PM

9. I think you find this interesting.

 

I think the election in Wisconsin was rigged for Scott Walker and that out of state Koch money and corruption by the GOP and the venders of the machines (the two party uncertified outfit running out of a strip mall in MInnesota) ... I also read the link you provided... here is a link to more info I posted on Thomhartmans community blog... I put up several U-tube videos on the subject I had found. you can find all my postings in my "overturn" profile on that site. but here are a few postings I had Made.

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/overturn/blog/2012/07/corruption-vote-rigging-software

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/overturn/blog/2012/07/still-voting-mitt-romney

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Voting Machine Fraud Nation Wide... Wisconsin included... u-tube videos the link below...

http://www.thomhartmann.com/users/overturn/blog/2012/07/voting-machine-fraud-nation-wide-wisconsin-included-u-tube-videos
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Response to itsrigged (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 07:20 PM

10. Thanks! Let's kick this for MN.

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Response to glinda (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:19 PM

11. You're welcome. Here is a link to Bev Harris' hacking democracy documentary ... a must see

 

Here is a link to Bev Harris' hacking democracy documentary ... a must see... it is about an hour movie and it aired on HBO several years ago... other major media stations would not air it... probably got law suit threats like fox did if they aired a documentary on Monsanto... I can give you a link to that video too if you like...

Everyone needs to see this and I think that after they watch it from start to finish they will never vote using a voting machine again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rVTXbARGXso

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Response to itsrigged (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:02 PM

12. Bev Harris is the Wicked Witch of the West, here.

I still can't think of Andy Stephenson without believing that she hastened his death.

You'll have to do some googling to see what I mean.

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Response to MADem (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:03 AM

13. Regarding the Wizard of oz, I though Toto was a Black little dog like unto your avitar breed

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QhjRUKCKIG4

Thanks for the info, I also read the reply post giving me some history on the subject, as I am new to this social media site and did not know that Bev Harris had been getting into arguments regarding probable attacks on what she posted...

After reading it I concluded that she might of been trying to get the word out to inform people of what she had been discovering by whatever means possible to try and educate the voter why these machines cannot be trusted. It is obvious that unless you have a lot of money, you are not going to get much air time on any of the major television stations and many people do not read the daily paper...

I guess the greatest risk to America is for its citizens to remain ignorant. I know the corruption is deep in the gaming industry... you see it in the bars with the illegal video pokers and 8 liners... In fact, I was a technician for a game operator that supplied some of the bars in Wisconsin and I know that they are being used just as they are in the casinos.

Those machines in the bars can have their percentage of payout changed anytime by the operator by just flipping a few dip switches say at anytime of servicing or collecting... they have meters that record the amount of money going into the machine and they meter how much was knocked off or redeemed.... sure they do not have any obvious hopper to spit back coins but they all have that option to have a hopper added... the way they first worked was they had a so called knock off button usually on the back side of the machine... when a patron was ready to cash in, they would motion the bar tender who would witness the amount they had won, note it and then push the button to clear it and then pay them...

Well, to make things easier, Many of the machines have been fitted with a printer and players just print a redemption ticket and give it to the bar tender to collect their winnings... some of them that are paranoid about others witnessing this transaction have set some rules... some of them tell them to come back later or the next day and the money "cash" is put in an envelope so that when they are given it in the presents of other customers that may not know what is going on have no idea that that envelope is a cash payment for what was won on the machine.

In Wisconsin Governor Doyle (before Scott Walker) was trying to get these banned and out of the bars to limit the expansion of gambling. He almost succeeded by threatening to have the police confiscate them as illegal contraband if the machines were not out of the bars in X number of days as was printed in the Wisconsin State Journal at the time... the machines were pulled out of the bars as they were several times before for periods of times due to other threats of enforcement due to complaints prior to the ones leading up to the last ditch effort by Doyle to ban them from the bars and what happened is this; The gaming industry WAMO got together with the tavern league and deceived and lied about the machine claiming it was not a gambling device since the machine itself did not spit out any money like the ones in the casinos with hoppers... they won the court battle government leaders bought it hook line and sinker and changed the law from a felony to a mist meaner and legalized the machine for bars with a limit of only 6 machines per bar as the number not to be exceeded.

The gambling still goes on in the bars and government looks the other way and the new mist meaner laws now on the books are not enforced.... the law being that if anyone is caught gambling on these machines where in payments are being made to them by the personnel at the bar that they would be hit with a $500 fine per occurrence and per machine yet not risk loosing their liquor license as the faced before the new law that was passed which enabled the machines to be placed back into the bars after having had to of been pulled from all the bars as by the order of Governor Doyle...

The funny thing is many of these machines have had printers added that print out a paper trail of redemptive payout tickets which get redeemed just like the ones in the casinos... that is, the casinos (many of them) have disabled the hoppers and they no longer spit out coins or tokens for redemption to cash... instead, they print out a ticket which gets redeemed by the cashier... The same thing is going on with the voting machines... venders have sold their shit to ignorant naive county officials for the counting of the votes so as to do them this big favor in lightening their load of having to periodically count the peoples paper ballots as they had been doing with no complaints right on up to the advent of the machine that can screw you was offered as an option to consider by those that wanted to make a lot of money selling us shit we did not need for as often as a count was needed that had been working for hundreds of years...

After getting rich of the sale of them, they became corrupt... surprise surprise surprise... now that the seeds had been planted as in like manner by Monsanto, the sickle is being sharpened for to gather the clusters of the vine to reap the harvest of what in the mine of the controllers at control central stand to gain in exchange for rigging elections form those big spenders who line their pockets with super pack dollars to legislate favors... even nowadays from the bench... the same ones that threatened Fox New what would happen if they did or did not air the Monsanto report as they themselves dictate it should be re-written...

Rupert Murdock couldn't risk loosing all those advertising dollars now could he.... that is why citizens united is supported by the major news media stations as they look forward not to election time as it means mega dollars in political ad snippets from supper packs so why should they object and the rent is made worse by the blind following the blind for it is the blind that elect the blind as to the truth of what is going on since these are the ones that don't give a rats ass as to who and how many shall suffer as a result of all the pigs feeding at the troth... anything else I might add at this time I've reserved the right to hold till as such time requires till a little action produces something further to act upon.

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Response to itsrigged (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:23 PM

14. leave the witches out of it! lol!

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Response to itsrigged (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 09:21 AM

17. funny!

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