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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:15 PM

1. Does that mean the primary will have all races uncontested?

Will the voters get to choose in the primary or has it already been decided?

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Response to MichMan (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:33 PM

2. Certain offices aren't nominated at a primary.

Those include Secretary of State, Attorney General, Supreme Court, and certain statewide boards.

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:32 PM

3. The main reason:

She worked the state. This played out not too long ago in the same way. I think it was in 2006. There was a golden boy chosen by Team Granholm who couldn't be bothered to go mix with the little people. Then there was Amos Williams. He hit every Dem even he could find from Marquette on down to Detroit and all points in between and sideways. That was an exciting convention and Amos won by a landslide.

This is so much like that! I am thrilled with this outcome.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:52 PM

4. What's wrong with the voters deciding in the primaries like other races?

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Response to MichMan (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:42 AM

5. Well for one thing

It's nice to not have the Rs fuck with the vote.

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 07:16 PM

6. Let's just forego all primaries and let the people in charge of the party decide

Let's just forego all primaries and let the people in charge of the party just select all the candidates now.


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Response to MichMan (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 07:58 PM

7. Yes, we 6,700+ party bosses did this!

WTF is your problem?

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 08:12 PM

8. The candidate I supported for AG has been removed from consideration.....

....long before I or anyone else ever had the chance to vote for them in a primary. That goes against my belief that the voters should be able to choose the best candidate without it being done for them. Apparently we are too stupid to be trusted to vote for the right person.


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Response to MichMan (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 08:42 PM

9. How were they "removed for consideration"?

From all my years in politics, right here in Michigan, a candidate announces, starts campaigning and either makes or doesn't.

Pat Miles lost because his strategy was "I was appointed US ttorney by Obama". Dana Nessel was everywhere, meeting everyone and tirelessly working.

Who was your candidate?

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Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 08:53 PM

10. According to the OP, Nessel has been selected as the nominee

The primary is scheduled for August 7, 2018. Will Pat Miles or William Nokes appear on the ballot ? The answer is no.

Since Nessel has already been selected 4 months before the primary, it sure appears to be that Miles and Nokes have been removed from consideration. What would you call it then?

I believe that the voters should choose the nominee in the primary; Obviously we disagree.

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Attorney_General_election,_2018_(August_7_Democratic_primary)

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Response to MichMan (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:47 PM

11. Under Michigan's Constitution, the AG nominee is chosen by a convention, not a primary.

21 State elective executive officers; term, election.
Sec. 21. The governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state and attorney general shall be elected for four-year terms at the general election in each alternate even-numbered year.

The lieutenant governor, secretary of state and attorney general shall be nominated by party conventions in a manner prescribed by law. In the general election one vote shall be cast jointly for the candidates for governor and lieutenant governor nominated by the same party.

Vacancies in the office of the secretary of state and attorney general shall be filled by appointment by the governor.


http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(axhm5zu4uwaxsxekkljtlxpo))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-Article-V-21

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Response to MichMan (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:40 PM

12. That will also be a

Convention vote. This was an endorsement convention. Others are free to run in primary but would have to blanket the state from now til then..

If they'd been doing it for the last 6 months like Dana Nessel did you'd have nothing to cry about.

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