HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Places » U.S. » Michigan (Group) » Why Dana Nessel Won for A...

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:19 PM

Why Dana Nessel Won for A.G.

If you are a Michigander connected in any way to Michigan Democratic Politics you know by now that the Democrat Candidate for Attorney General is now Dana Nessel - as the State Convention is over and Attorney Nessel had the most delegate votes plus strategic campaign for the votes.

Yet, despite this, there is Monday Morning Quarterbacking that is going on as it relates to the other A.G. Candidate Pat Miles, a former President Obama appointee for the Western Michigan District Assistant for the Office of Attorney General. In hearing the Monday Morning Quarterbacking, we are wondering why. As it why is this a question that Attorney Nessel won as she clearly did?

Let quickly contrast and compare the former Democratic Nomination for A.G. Candidates:

Attorney Pat Miles was from Western Michigan, around the Grand Rapids area to be exact. Despite receiving a great appointment from former President Obama, many individuals outside of the Western Region he operated - and were not fellow Lawyers or connected to the Law field knew who he was. With that, Attorney Miles needed to make a name for himself outside of the appointment, however great it was.

Michigan is bigger than Western Michigan or Southern Michigan, Mid Michigan, Southeastern Michigan or U.P. Michigan. In other words, Attorney Miles needed to make a connection with you know, common everyday folks who could be Democratic Party Delegates in Southern Michigan, Mid Michigan, Southeastern Michigan or U.P. Michigan. This is where his campaign failed.

Attorney Miles changed his position from policies he upheld while holding the Assistant A.G. for the U.S. Michigan Western District like his position on medical cannabis when he was against cannabis for any use including medically related. Next, after leaving his Asst. A.G. for U.S. Western District going into the private sector, he practiced corporate law.

That in of itself is not bad, however, going after cases of denial of workers rights was not good either and that is an area the law practice he worked for specialized within. A UAW Endorsement 10 days prior to the Nomination Convention came too late to encounter act Attorney Miles history as it relates to workers rights.

Next, an ever increasing until the nomination process number of individuals noted he came off stiff, aloof, and generally not connecting with the proper number of delegates required to win the Michigan Democratic A.G. Nomination. Plain and simple.

Meanwhile, Attorney Nessel history was a bit more known for the Deboer/Rowse Adoption case.

This was the case were a gay couple sought to adopt their adopted children but efforts to do so was blocked by Republican Michigan A.G. Bill Schuette. Attorney Nessel pushed the case all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and won.

Attorney Nessel did make a minor misstep with her first campaign video with a saying that will not be repeated on this post but, she quickly recovered with it was assumed shortly thereafter, a change in her campaign staff. The minor mistake was made EARLY ENOUGH for a recovery.

Then, from there Attorney Nessel worked the state.

Visiting 67 out of Michigan's 83 counties, going to Democratic Events, Functions and Meet and Greets to introduce herself and express the policies she would stand for if nominated for and later elected as Michigan's next Attorney General. Attorney Nessel was DETAILED in the stances, knew the positions, was able to contrast and compare how she would enact or cultivate changes in the A.G.'s office and - told her personal story about trying and getting rejected for an Asst. Michigan A.G. position because of the Deboer case under current Republican A.G. Bill Schuette tenure.

Lastly, she spoke boldly about returning Michigan's A.G.'s Office to its FORMER first in the nation status of a Consumer Protection Bureau under long-time former A.G. Frank Kelley.

That is how Attorney Nessel won the Michigan Democratic A.G. Nomination. It was fair and square.

Now, the Monday Morning Quarterbacking needs to cease and desist.

There are some under-the-table chats going on about how some could not vote in the General Election for Attorney Nessel or not vote period because there is not a Minority Candidate at the top of the ticket (p/s: we are of color by the way) at the present time. This is not smart in these days and times. These are the actions that got us Trump in the White House. Lets' NOT REPEAT THAT HUGE MISTAKE AGAIN.

Also, the key is NOT YET. There is still a position left -- as in who will be the Lieutenant Governor to whomever the nominee is in the Democratic Primary, for Governor. In other words, there is plenty of time to lobby for a qualified person to be Lieutenant Governor of Michigan, that is a Person of Color -- or another FIRST for Michigan.

For the purposes of this post, we will not "name names" as individuals connected to Michigan Democratic Party Politics should know who they are.

Also, there are at least three Candidates for Michigan Governor who are African-American, Indian-American and Arabic-American descent.

Instead, in closing, this is a post to say, let us not REPEAT less than two years later what cost this state in November 2016. Politics is about winners and losers. Someone will win and Someone else will lose. Sometimes, the best candidate wins (as in Attorney Nessell's case for the A.G. Nomination) and other times they don't. It's life.

Either way, to take one's toys and stump home is not the right strategy for these dangerous days and times.

We have Trump in the Office of President, a Congress that is run amok by the Republican party in power and a State that is Republican Executive and Legislative Office dominated for the last Seven and near one-half years. It is time to #StayWoke and vote to change in this State instead of again -- being the State where folks around the nation are asking what's wrong with them.

Let do the right thing on November 7, 2018, and VOTE. Period!

12 replies, 638 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:15 PM

1. Does that mean the primary will have all races uncontested?

Will the voters get to choose in the primary or has it already been decided?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MichMan (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:33 PM

2. Certain offices aren't nominated at a primary.

Those include Secretary of State, Attorney General, Supreme Court, and certain statewide boards.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to LovingA2andMI (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:32 PM

3. The main reason:

She worked the state. This played out not too long ago in the same way. I think it was in 2006. There was a golden boy chosen by Team Granholm who couldn't be bothered to go mix with the little people. Then there was Amos Williams. He hit every Dem even he could find from Marquette on down to Detroit and all points in between and sideways. That was an exciting convention and Amos won by a landslide.

This is so much like that! I am thrilled with this outcome.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:52 PM

4. What's wrong with the voters deciding in the primaries like other races?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MichMan (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:42 AM

5. Well for one thing

It's nice to not have the Rs fuck with the vote.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 07:16 PM

6. Let's just forego all primaries and let the people in charge of the party decide

Let's just forego all primaries and let the people in charge of the party just select all the candidates now.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MichMan (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 07:58 PM

7. Yes, we 6,700+ party bosses did this!

WTF is your problem?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 08:12 PM

8. The candidate I supported for AG has been removed from consideration.....

....long before I or anyone else ever had the chance to vote for them in a primary. That goes against my belief that the voters should be able to choose the best candidate without it being done for them. Apparently we are too stupid to be trusted to vote for the right person.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MichMan (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 08:42 PM

9. How were they "removed for consideration"?

From all my years in politics, right here in Michigan, a candidate announces, starts campaigning and either makes or doesn't.

Pat Miles lost because his strategy was "I was appointed US ttorney by Obama". Dana Nessel was everywhere, meeting everyone and tirelessly working.

Who was your candidate?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to JNelson6563 (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 08:53 PM

10. According to the OP, Nessel has been selected as the nominee

The primary is scheduled for August 7, 2018. Will Pat Miles or William Nokes appear on the ballot ? The answer is no.

Since Nessel has already been selected 4 months before the primary, it sure appears to be that Miles and Nokes have been removed from consideration. What would you call it then?

I believe that the voters should choose the nominee in the primary; Obviously we disagree.

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Attorney_General_election,_2018_(August_7_Democratic_primary)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MichMan (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 09:47 PM

11. Under Michigan's Constitution, the AG nominee is chosen by a convention, not a primary.

21 State elective executive officers; term, election.
Sec. 21. The governor, lieutenant governor, secretary of state and attorney general shall be elected for four-year terms at the general election in each alternate even-numbered year.

The lieutenant governor, secretary of state and attorney general shall be nominated by party conventions in a manner prescribed by law. In the general election one vote shall be cast jointly for the candidates for governor and lieutenant governor nominated by the same party.

Vacancies in the office of the secretary of state and attorney general shall be filled by appointment by the governor.


http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(axhm5zu4uwaxsxekkljtlxpo))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-Article-V-21

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to MichMan (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:40 PM

12. That will also be a

Convention vote. This was an endorsement convention. Others are free to run in primary but would have to blanket the state from now til then..

If they'd been doing it for the last 6 months like Dana Nessel did you'd have nothing to cry about.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread