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KS Toronado

(18,205 posts)
Sat May 11, 2024, 06:44 PM May 11

Kansas governor vetoes child support for fetuses

TOPEKA — Gov. Laura Kelly used her veto pen on legislation that would have opened up a pathway for child support claims to be made on behalf of fetuses, characterizing the legislation as a blatant attempt by extreme politicians to “take more control over women.”

Senate Bill 232, supported by anti-abortion lobbying organizations, would have required the Supreme Court to adopt rules considering medical and pregnancy-related expenses for pregnant women, factoring in this child support at any time after the date of conception.

Passed 82-38 in the House and 25-12 in the Senate, the legislation specified that these child support payments for medical expenses incurred during pregnancy couldn’t be collected in cases where the woman receives an “elective” abortion. Exceptions would be allowed in cases where the abortion was performed to save the pregnant woman’s life. There is no chance to override the governor’s veto because lawmakers have already adjourned the legislative session.

“This divisive legislation has broad and sweeping implications that undermine the will of the majority of Kansans who voted overwhelmingly in 2022 to protect the constitutional rights of women to make decisions about pregnancy,” Kelly said Friday. “This is another blatant attempt by extreme politicians in the Legislature to take more control over women and their families’ personal, private medical decisions.”

https://kansasreflector.com/2024/05/10/kansas-governor-vetoes-child-support-for-fetuses/

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Kansas governor vetoes child support for fetuses (Original Post) KS Toronado May 11 OP
of course, it would put more responsibility on men....... getagrip_already May 11 #1
Putting more responsibility on men is not why that bill was a bad idea. ShazzieB May 11 #2
Exactly what the repugnuts were doing KS Toronado May 11 #3
Not only declaring fetuses to be full-fledged persons slightlv May 11 #4

getagrip_already

(15,748 posts)
1. of course, it would put more responsibility on men.......
Sat May 11, 2024, 06:51 PM
May 11

so it is a bad idea. child support is bad in their eyes at any age. if a woman doesn't want to stay married, and won't give custody to the father (even if he doesn't want it), then screw her, no child support.

And certainly not before birth. It's only a person to be prevented from abortion, not to benefit the mother.

ShazzieB

(17,227 posts)
2. Putting more responsibility on men is not why that bill was a bad idea.
Sat May 11, 2024, 09:30 PM
May 11

It's a bad idea because (among other things) it opens the door to fetuses being regarded as full fledged persons, with all the rights an actual person is entitled to.

From the first paragraph of the article in the op (emphasis added):

Gov. Laura Kelly used her veto pen on legislation that would have opened up a pathway for child support claims to be made on behalf of fetuses, characterizing the legislation as a blatant attempt by extreme politicians to “take more control over women.”


The rest of the article elaborates further. I think Kelly did the right thing. This bill would have opened a Pandora's box of implications that would endanger women's reproductive rights in Kansas, if not right away, then certainly later on.

KS Toronado

(18,205 posts)
3. Exactly what the repugnuts were doing
Sat May 11, 2024, 10:01 PM
May 11

opening the door for fetuses being regarded as full fledged persons. More 'thou shall not kill" legislation
coming round bend.

slightlv

(3,399 posts)
4. Not only declaring fetuses to be full-fledged persons
Sat May 11, 2024, 10:47 PM
May 11

with all rights therein, but rights that will over rule the rights of the woman carrying the pregnancy. Women truly would be nothing more than livestock under a law like this. I applaud Gov. Kelly.

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