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Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:50 AM

Kansas And Missouri Farmers Are Sticking With Trump Despite The Hard Times He's Caused Them

Most farmers haven't had a single good year since President Trump took office, and Trump’s policies on trade, immigration and ethanol are part of the problem.

Yet farmers, who broadly supported Trump in 2016, are sticking with him as the impeachment inquiry moves forward.

“You see everyone circling their wagons now, and the farm community is no different in that,” says John Herath, the news director at Farm Journal.

The farm magazine polls more than a thousand farmers monthly. Herath says Trump’s popularity slumped a bit in the summer, but he notes it bounced back to 76% favorable the week the U.S. House launched its impeachment inquiry.

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/kansas-and-missouri-farmers-are-sticking-trump-despite-hard-times-hes-caused-them

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Reply Kansas And Missouri Farmers Are Sticking With Trump Despite The Hard Times He's Caused Them (Original post)
Sherman A1 Oct 10 OP
dem4decades Oct 10 #1
3Hotdogs Oct 10 #2
dem4decades Oct 10 #3
3Hotdogs Oct 10 #4
Newest Reality Oct 10 #5
lark Oct 10 #6
Maxheader Oct 12 #7

Response to Sherman A1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 06:55 AM

1. When they lose their farms how will they blame Hillary?

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:07 AM

2. At least they won't have money to donate to his campaign....

or gas to drive to the polls to vote for him.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:10 AM

3. He'll get all the money he needs from big agriculture, who'll be buying those family farms.

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Response to dem4decades (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:13 AM

4. True dat.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:16 AM

5. Can you see what we are up against?

I am not going to be reactionary about this and fling insults at them. There is, to me a common thread in their polarization. I prefer to understand what is happening, if that is possible.

“I'd probably be lying if I said some of us aren't scratching our heads every once in a while,” says Ulrich. “I sometimes wonder if he didn't bite off a little more than he could chew."

While we are painting with a broad brush, (24% don't back Trump) the farmers who remain loyal are loyal and that's the point. Parse that sentence a big and you can see that and how they are using confirmation bias to reinforce their thinking. They are keeping their hopes up, waiting for something that is not likely to happen and they can't see it, even though the article makes it obvious.

So, they are committed to the ideology and devoted to their leader and probably most likely taking his word for it, which has been a big mistake. Oh, they are grumbling, but who really likes to be proven wrong? They are living in an echo chamber where the subplots involved support their mindset and that filters their opinion.

And politics are deeply personal these days, according to Chris Larimer, a political science professor at the University of Northern Iowa. Larimer says farmers have to square their economic differences with Trump, with their partisan allegiance to him.


It is not very pragmatic to be that personal about politics when you are doing business and depend on the results. That quote hits the mark. They won't be able to square that so loss and frustration will result, hence, more anger and despair and scapegoating. It is a viscous circle.

Too bad, though. Even if they think they are making sacrifices for their leader and believe Republican propaganda, that won't work out practically speaking. Loyalty and stubbornness are detrimental and counterproductive in a case like this, and they are turning out to be unpatriotic. Imagine telling them that!

Fortunately the devotees are a minority. Too bad they are helping Trump screw them and ignoring his history.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 07:50 AM

6. So, right wingers are complete fools, but this isn't really news.

WE've seen their self-destructiveness for many decades. Karma is already at their door and will be coming on in if they get their wish and they will lose everything - which they deserve for their America and Kurd killing choices. But what about all of us that know that he's a criminal who hates everything except himself and his $$. Our worlds will be fucked too and we don't deserve it. I don't give a damn about them, they earned the perfidy. It's everyone else in the USA and world for which I am concerned.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Original post)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 07:10 AM

7. Wingers are intimidated..



by the real world...thanks to the hennesys..limbaughs..
and they take out their frustration on the liberals...as
the gop directs...There is no rational, in the normal sense
for their disdain..

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