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Top 10 Biggest Cliches in Photography (Original Post) Stevenmarc Dec 2012 OP
honestly I dont care what someone calls a cliche rdking647 Dec 2012 #1
The point of the article Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #5
Thought provoking Mira Dec 2012 #2
We're all guilty Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #6
I know what you mean, I must start saving Mira Dec 2012 #7
I use old movies as inspiration. An example was the movie "A Touch of Evil." His use of alfredo Dec 2012 #28
I'm certainly guilty of sunset shots Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #3
I'm actually familiar with his work Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #4
His portraits are just flawless, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #10
When it MY grandkids faces smeared with gunk it's PRICELESS ART!!! Speck Tater Dec 2012 #8
I hear ya there. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #9
I have a bad cold and your reply Mira Dec 2012 #13
LOL, unfortunately Anne Geddes reset the bar Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #11
I cannot warm to her work. Just can't n/t Mira Dec 2012 #14
I've never put my grand daughter in a pumpkin Mz Pip Dec 2012 #20
How come the author used a photo of Willy Nelson for his rant against shots of the homeless?? MichaelSoE Dec 2012 #12
It sure does look like him, doesn't it? Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #23
ROFL nt rDigital Dec 2012 #26
#8 is my biggie. I absolutely loth those kind of cotton candy water shots. RC Dec 2012 #15
Selective Color Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #17
good read Solly Mack Dec 2012 #16
I think . . . Richard D Dec 2012 #18
Photography is Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #19
Over-done HDR is the worst. If done right, no one should suspect that you even used HDR. rDigital Dec 2012 #21
I've seen some HDR Mz Pip Dec 2012 #22
Here's what I think of Thomas Kincaid... rDigital Dec 2012 #25
LOL Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #27
Maybe it will eventually disappear Mz Pip Dec 2012 #29
I'm sure there are uses for it, Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #24
The best HDR is having a camera with good DR. alfredo Dec 2012 #30
^^This. I thank Nikon for the D800. : ) nt rDigital Dec 2012 #31
I'm shooting with a m 4/3 and they aren't the best for dynamic range until you get into alfredo Dec 2012 #35
My IPhone takes HDR Mz Pip Dec 2012 #32
All you want to do is capture highlight and shadow detail. If the app allows fiddling with settings, alfredo Dec 2012 #34
HDR in the native camera app Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #36
Over Cooked..... Bad Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #33
I've done most of them, so what? Alameda Dec 2012 #37
And if Stevenmarc Dec 2012 #39
I can't seem to avoid the cliches to save my life. Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #38
A few of my cliches with Kodak EasyShare P&S ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #40
 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
1. honestly I dont care what someone calls a cliche
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 03:27 PM
Dec 2012

if I like the photo thats all that matters. I dont shoot to please other I shoot to please me.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
5. The point of the article
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:16 PM
Dec 2012

Is to recognize the cliche and make an attempt to bring it to another level, or how I look at it, good enough isn't good enough, you have to always push your work further otherwise why bother.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
2. Thought provoking
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:38 PM
Dec 2012

I'm guilty of all of those, and more, almost all anyway.
In all cases though, exceptions apply. Expecially if the exception is an exceptionally engaging photograph

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
6. We're all guilty
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:12 PM
Dec 2012

And when I catch myself I usually take a trip to the Met or MOMA and find a painting that hits me and in a non-literal way shoot for the subjects, shapes, colors, textures, basically the DNA of the picture.

Mira

(22,380 posts)
7. I know what you mean, I must start saving
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:03 PM
Dec 2012

to get back there immediately.
It's been a long while.

I'm just kidding with you.
I think I know what you mean, I have, after all seen your work.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
28. I use old movies as inspiration. An example was the movie "A Touch of Evil." His use of
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:14 AM
Dec 2012

light and composition inspires me to see that way. The look isn't always what I am going after. Sometimes it is the feeling.

Some things I do might be cliche, but they become cliche because respond to them. Not every photo needs to be cutting edge or art. Sometimes I like a pretty picture.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
3. I'm certainly guilty of sunset shots
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 05:14 PM
Dec 2012

but it's about all the color there is around here in the wintertime, so I think it's justified. And I do try to add some points of interest in the foreground. Sunsets in the summer are a moot point.

As for homeless people, I also have an issue with photographing them, out of respect for their privacy. The one exception I've seen is a local photographer here who took a whole series of absolutely beautiful shots of homeless people at our local shelter. His point was to accentuate their dignity, and he did a wonderful job of it.

http://clarkjamesmishler.com/category/photo-stories/ Please do check out Clark Mishler's photos. They're beautiful.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
4. I'm actually familiar with his work
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

He's one of the few that get it right. I can only see shooting the homeless as part of a long term project that gives back to community in some way.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
10. His portraits are just flawless,
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:06 PM
Dec 2012

not just the ones of the homeless people. Have you looked at the "portrait a day" at that link? Incredible. The shots are so simple and yet perfect.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
8. When it MY grandkids faces smeared with gunk it's PRICELESS ART!!!
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:48 PM
Dec 2012

So there.

Any picture that includes my grandchildren is priceless art!

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
20. I've never put my grand daughter in a pumpkin
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 04:23 PM
Dec 2012

or any other large vegetable.

I agree with the article, at least on the surface of it. But in order to transcend the mundane and cliche'd it take s a lot of time and effort and practice and just learning to look. It takes work to master the contentm regardless of what your medium is.

"The importance of an artist is to be determined by the number of new signs he introduces into the language of art." - Henri Matisse.

So if you are working with cliches you have to make them new again.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
15. #8 is my biggie. I absolutely loth those kind of cotton candy water shots.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:08 AM
Dec 2012

Photos are supposed to be a slice of time. Save the cotton water for your child's school project.


04 The Decay Cliche is as Americana as apple pie. There is some good art photos with rusting Detroit iron in them. The older the better.

05 Homeless Guy I hope the photographer slipped him a 10 or better yet, a 20.

06 Headless Nude Show the photographer how to use the focus and lighting.

07 Toddler With Face Smeared With Dirt or Food My kid, priceless. Yours? clean'em up already, before he touches something.

09 Selective Colour All this proves is that you figured out something in Photoshop. Good for an ad to make the product stand out a bit.

10 Sunset and Sunrise Hey, I have some good ones I am proud of. Taken Hawaii yet.

03 and 01 shows you are not a real photographer.

02 Got a new photo manipulation program do ya?

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
17. Selective Color
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 12:45 AM
Dec 2012

If I see another it would be one more too many, it was ok on a Hallmark card in the 80's and that's where it should have stayed.

Some of my other favorites:

Over cooked HDR
The pregnant belly/heart hands shot

And in Instagram world:
Latte designs
Food shots that aren't in a food publication.
And this strange new obsession with shooting down at the floor at your feet

Richard D

(8,752 posts)
18. I think . . .
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:24 AM
Dec 2012

. . . That there have been so many billions of photos taken that almost any topic you choose can be called a cliche by the cynical.

 

rDigital

(2,239 posts)
21. Over-done HDR is the worst. If done right, no one should suspect that you even used HDR.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 08:32 PM
Dec 2012

At the end of the day though, who's the boss? The viewing public, and if they want granulated oversharpened color vomit, then that is what they get.

I'm going to try and find my happy place now.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
22. I've seen some HDR
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 09:27 PM
Dec 2012

that is kind of interesting from a sort of Surrealist point of view but mostly it just looks garrish and oversaturated.

But like you said, the viewing public pushes this kind of thing. Just look at the popularity of Thomas Kincaid.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
29. Maybe it will eventually disappear
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 12:21 AM
Dec 2012

now that he's dead.

Still I suspect there will be someone similar who will fill the vacuum of saccharin sweet nostalgic bad art.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
24. I'm sure there are uses for it,
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 10:31 PM
Dec 2012

but I don't even own an HDR program. It just doesn't look real to me.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
35. I'm shooting with a m 4/3 and they aren't the best for dynamic range until you get into
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:20 AM
Dec 2012

the top shelf picks like the OM-D or GH-2 or GH-3.

Mz Pip

(27,439 posts)
32. My IPhone takes HDR
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 01:30 AM
Dec 2012

Doesn't look much different from the regular photo though maybe I'm supposed to do something to it when I download it.

I've tried to do HDR with my Canon but I have not been pleased with the results. Photoshop has a HDR program but I think I need to practice more to get results that I'm satisfied with.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
34. All you want to do is capture highlight and shadow detail. If the app allows fiddling with settings,
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:19 AM
Dec 2012

experiment to see what looks good.

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
36. HDR in the native camera app
Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:31 AM
Dec 2012

Really only gives a nudge to the dynamic range and offers no way to make adjustments.

I use a couple of apps to do HDR on an iPhone.

First I shoot with the app Bracket Mode which takes the 2 shots for the third party HDR app. Yes you can shoot from within the HDR app but you have to process the image right after you shoot and with Bracket Mode I can just keep shooting and go back later to process.

When I do go back to process I use TrueHDR but Pro HDR is also a good choice.

As far as HDR in Photoshop, the HDR from CS5 on is good, in the older versions it was rubbish and the very best is Nik's HDR plugin

Alameda

(1,895 posts)
37. I've done most of them, so what?
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 01:36 PM
Dec 2012

I don't take photographs for anyone but myself and friends...and who ever may like to look at them. I look at photography as a way to increase my vision and as a record of what I've seen and been. I have taken photos of homeless as a record. I hardly ever photo people's faces, just a personal thing as it feels intrusive to me. In fact, most my photos are not particularly identifiable.

So what if things are cliches, if artists paid attention to that, little would be done. How many times have the same themes been done?

Stevenmarc

(4,483 posts)
39. And if
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 11:00 PM
Dec 2012

Artists continually embraced the cliche we would still be painting in caves. Artists pay a great deal of attention to the concept of cliche, well at least the ones I know and work with, that's how things actually progress in the art world, when artists push the boundaries. And yes themes do get repeated but its how those themes are reinterpreted is what pushes beyond the cliche.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
38. I can't seem to avoid the cliches to save my life.
Fri Dec 7, 2012, 03:35 PM
Dec 2012

I make no claim to competence, I just like taking photos and experimenting with post-processing.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
40. A few of my cliches with Kodak EasyShare P&S
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 02:01 AM
Dec 2012

Decay:





Sunset:



These were taken with a 12mp Kodak EasyShare, which does ok I guess. However, Christmas is coming and I happen to know I'm getting a step up with a Nikon L810 16mp 26x P&S. I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with it.

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