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Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:35 PM Sep 2017

My maniac daughter crashed her motorcycle doing 35 on a 15 mph curve. Mild concussion, torn

ligaments, severe road rash on thighs and hips, multiple contusions and lacerations. She called my wife and asked her to "not tell dad. He'll tell me I can't ride anymore." She's fifty years old and hasn't paid attention to what I've said to her since she was twelve.

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My maniac daughter crashed her motorcycle doing 35 on a 15 mph curve. Mild concussion, torn (Original Post) Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 OP
Glad it wasn't worse. redwitch Sep 2017 #1
Thankfully she always wears a helmet and leathers! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #2
that's nothing. one of my co-workers wiped out doing 50 on a bicycle unblock Sep 2017 #3
I on the other hand thought it more than "nothing". Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #4
Just an expression ;) unblock Sep 2017 #7
Get it! Thanks! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #8
So glad she's okay... PoiBoy Sep 2017 #5
Thank you. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #6
I Hope She Is Okay Leith Sep 2017 #9
She went to the left guard rails, the bike to the right. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #10
The steering geometry cloudbase Sep 2017 #42
One of the reasons Ive never liked them. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #43
It has been my experience that the majority of people give up riding after their first spill. FSogol Sep 2017 #11
She won't be riding for a while due to her injuries as well as the condition of her bike. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #16
I had a bad spill one time (I was stupidly riding in the ice and snow), but escaped injury. FSogol Sep 2017 #18
Thanks! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #22
I am thankful she will recover SonofDonald Sep 2017 #12
Fortunately she was riding through a canyon that doesn't get a lot of automobile traffic. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #17
Oh gosh, so sorry. Laffy Kat Sep 2017 #13
I haven't ridden in decades because of traffic. Even gave up my bicycle. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #19
It's scarier than hell to ride SonofDonald Sep 2017 #25
I no longer have the reflexes necessary to ride in traffic. It's a young persons activity. Not a Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #27
I'm 58 now SonofDonald Sep 2017 #31
Thanks. No we don't! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #35
Has she had concussions before? TexasBushwhacker Sep 2017 #14
Thankfully no. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #20
those torn ligaments will be painful for a long time rurallib Sep 2017 #15
She is miserable with pain, but refuses to take it easy. That's my kid! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #21
After my kids became adults I stopped lecturing them Major Nikon Sep 2017 #23
Ain't it the truth! 👍🏻 Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #24
Yes it is. N/T SonofDonald Sep 2017 #26
Very sorry shenmue Sep 2017 #28
Thank you! Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #29
I'd think that doing 35 mph on a 15 mph curve PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #30
She's a risk taker. Always has been. Being so has brought her great success, along with more than Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #33
Hopefully she will be ok. I really recommend folks who have, or who are considering on doing still_one Sep 2017 #32
Her husband tried to convince her to take the course. She refused because she's been riding Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #34
35 MPH crash and she had those kinds of injuries? Wasn't wearing proper gear and ffr Sep 2017 #36
She was wearing a helmet, leather jacket and chaps, boots and gauntlets. Unfortunately no knee, Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #37
Sometimes an accident will be enough to do that. ffr Sep 2017 #40
As a rider gibraltar72 Sep 2017 #38
I fear that you are right. Floyd R. Turbo Sep 2017 #39
Helmet? n/t left-of-center2012 Sep 2017 #41

unblock

(52,116 posts)
3. that's nothing. one of my co-workers wiped out doing 50 on a bicycle
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:40 PM
Sep 2017

training for a triathlon.

hope she heels well. or heals well. maybe i'll ask trump which it is....

unblock

(52,116 posts)
7. Just an expression ;)
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:03 PM
Sep 2017

This was quite a while ago, co-worker is fine and back in full form.

I'm a parent, too, I get it. But they do get better....

Leith

(7,808 posts)
9. I Hope She Is Okay
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:28 PM
Sep 2017

It sounds like a heck of a crash.

My mother didn't ride a motorcycle, but she would never slow down or watch where she was going. She always had a couple bruises to show off that she got from walking.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
10. She went to the left guard rails, the bike to the right.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:41 PM
Sep 2017

Her ride was a custom chopper built by her husband. He's cool and knows shit happens.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
11. It has been my experience that the majority of people give up riding after their first spill.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:26 PM
Sep 2017

Maybe she's done riding, now?

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
18. I had a bad spill one time (I was stupidly riding in the ice and snow), but escaped injury.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 09:02 AM
Sep 2017

Hope your daughter gets well soon.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
12. I am thankful she will recover
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:43 PM
Sep 2017

She is so lucky, all this damage and no cars were involved, I've wrecked a few bikes and was forced off the road by an inattentive driver in 1981, I received a dislocated shoulder, a collapsed lung, other injuries.

The motorcycle had bent forks, frame and rear swing arm, I crawled an eighth of a mile to find help, I kept riding until 1996 when I came down south and found how dangerous it is in the lower 48, drivers don't look out for you, most could care less about cutting you off.

Your Daughter is so lucky a car wasn't involved, it will make her more careful if she continues to ride though.

I'll never ride again, I already know what it feels like to crash hard.

It's not fun.

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
13. Oh gosh, so sorry.
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 08:57 PM
Sep 2017

Motorcycles scare me to death. My ex-husband had two and grew up riding. My own boys never wanted anything to do with them (thank god). The thing is, it's not enough to be careful, it's the other people (cars) that will kill ya.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
25. It's scarier than hell to ride
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 11:50 AM
Sep 2017

I've mentioned it here before but I was a Bering Sea crabber from 1981-1989, I did the whole deadliest catch thing and even spent nine months at sea in 1984.

So it can be said I ain't scared of much.

But I won't throw a leg over a motorcycle any more and I loved to ride, and I still miss it.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
27. I no longer have the reflexes necessary to ride in traffic. It's a young persons activity. Not a
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 11:56 AM
Sep 2017

week goes by where I live that some guy in his fifties or sixties isn't killed or seriously injured in a motorcycle accident.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
31. I'm 58 now
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:07 PM
Sep 2017

And you are correct, I see these young riders zooming in and out of traffic changing lanes on a whim, I never had the stones to do that at any age.

Most of my crashes were off road and I could walk away, I went to snow machines as they were so much more stable, I still have one in the garage, but the cold destroys me these days due to all the broken bones I've had so it's parked.

It's self preservation now.

Best wishes for your Daughters recovery, I'm a father of two women and I know you never quit worrying.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
23. After my kids became adults I stopped lecturing them
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 10:23 AM
Sep 2017

I might just as effectively lecture to the wall and not create hard feelings in the process.

If it's any consolation, pain is generally a pretty good teacher.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
30. I'd think that doing 35 mph on a 15 mph curve
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:01 PM
Sep 2017

is something a 50 year old would know better than to do. Or does she always ride so recklessly? In which case, she's incredibly lucky she hasn't done worse by now.

Just hope she heals well and rides a bit more sensibly from now on.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
33. She's a risk taker. Always has been. Being so has brought her great success, along with more than
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:24 PM
Sep 2017

a little grief!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
32. Hopefully she will be ok. I really recommend folks who have, or who are considering on doing
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:09 PM
Sep 2017

street bike riding to take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation class.

https://www.msf-usa.org/

Hope all is well.



Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
34. Her husband tried to convince her to take the course. She refused because she's been riding
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:27 PM
Sep 2017

most of her life!

ffr

(22,665 posts)
36. 35 MPH crash and she had those kinds of injuries? Wasn't wearing proper gear and
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 12:45 PM
Sep 2017

may not fully know how to ride and control a motorcycle.

35 MPH in a 15 MPH curve, even some marked 10 MPH on a sport bike will literally cause the bike to fall into the corner if the rider is properly leaning. Regardless, every situation is different. The rider must judge if the conditions and circumstances warrant those kinds of speeds. Is this a known corner frequented every day and she knows there's no gravel or sand or oil in the corner? Is it one that isn't in a residential neighborhood where such speeding is never warranted? Was she riding a motorcycle with good cornering ground clearance or one that does not? And if not, she just learned an important lesson about what you can and cannot force a motorcycle to do.

It's better to sweat than bleed. With proper armored gear, the most she would have sustained were bruises. And of those, her ego would have been the most bruised.


She should be encouraged to take a MC safety course and/or participate in a "trackday," where she can learn the fundamentals of controlling her machine under supervised controlled conditions. She'll be a better, smarter rider for it.

I've narrowed some of it down to how the rider looks on their bike. If they ride stiff armed, that means they aren't comfortable or don't know how to control their machine. All riders who have a great deal of control of their machines are fluid with their bikes. Their body motions are fluid, not rigid.





Stiff armed rider. (Warning - contains actual collision, but everyone walked away)





Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
37. She was wearing a helmet, leather jacket and chaps, boots and gauntlets. Unfortunately no knee,
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 01:17 PM
Sep 2017

elbow, or shoulder pads. The area is near her home but not residential. Her bike is/was a custom chopper built by her husband.

Hopefully she takes the lesson learned to heart.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
40. Sometimes an accident will be enough to do that.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 05:00 PM
Sep 2017

I dated a gal who bought a chopper/H-D because her previous boyfriend owned one and she wanted to ride on her own. Wrong bike choice for sure. The bike was just clumsy and heavy. She couldn't turn it around and couldn't even get it on or off her property without help.

If your gal takes it to heart, terrific! Everybody wins! If she doesn't though, there's little that can be done about it. You can hope she comes to her senses or has another innocent accident to help sway her to make a decision. When riding is in your blood, it brings great joy to the person, much like bicycle riding does too. The endorphins that are kicked off inside the brain justify the risk as a choice personal to them, a risk of being alive, i.e. it makes them feel alive in ways that make life not just ho-hum day-to-day, but something to be captured every moment.

Many people who ride cannot imagine life without riding, and those who don't cannot understand what could be so great about it that it justifies the risks. Riding, in a regard, becomes an addiction.

gibraltar72

(7,498 posts)
38. As a rider
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 01:25 PM
Sep 2017

of 56 years having sold my last bike in June. I can tell you there are only two kinds of motorcycle riders. Those who have crashed and those who are going to. People who don't ride don't get the amount of pleasure and sense of freedom it gives. Don't be shocked if she's back on the horse a lot sooner than you think she will be. I strapped crutches on my bike before I could walk after breaking my leg many moons ago.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,544 posts)
39. I fear that you are right.
Tue Sep 19, 2017, 01:30 PM
Sep 2017

A major determining factor will be the length of time her husband takes rebuilding her bike. I doubt that he'll be in a rush.

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