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guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)He is pushing increased mining in Alberta. Harper would approve.
Watalapan
(93 posts)First country ever in the world to have aCabinet minister for climate change!
True Dough
(17,296 posts)and declares an end to any new oil and gas, pipeline and mining development would be committing economic suicide. What matters is the general direction in which Trudeau is taking the country. The book has yet to be written on that, but to expect him to reject all new projects or expansion of existing ones is unrealistic.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)of how destructive the mining and the use of such tar sands is.
The destruction in Alberta is bad enough, but shipping and refining and using such material is worse.
True Dough
(17,296 posts)It's a province that lived too high off the hog for decades with its oil wealth. Its inhabitants finally broke the spell of Conservative rule since forever with the election of the NDP's Rachel Notley in 2015.
Notley proceeded to introduce a carbon plan. She has been publicly setting negotiations terms with Trudeau on a national carbon plan, which sets carbon prices at $50 a tonne by 2022. It's viewed by most Albertans as being unacceptable. So Notley said in order to come to the table, Trudeau will have to make some concessions on pipelines as a compromise. That's what's happening.
So you have to walk before you run.
The way you are proposing to shut down the oil sands would result in a rebellion. It would put the Conservatives right back in power and then all bets are off. Just like Trump running roughshod, the Conservatives would reverse any gains and push development back into overdrive. That would be counterproductive.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Continuing to mine the tar sands is an environmental disaster for Canada and the world.
True Dough
(17,296 posts)But the political reality is that if it's not gradually slowed to a trickle while finding replacement industries, preferably renewable energy, then whoever tries to drive an immediate stake through the heart of tar sands country (Alberta) is a dead duck (just like the dead ducks that actually showed up in the tar sands).
It's unfortunate but it's reality. Look at what happened to Hillary in coal country. She promised that alternative jobs would be found, but she didn't get the vote. Same thing would happen to Notley if she opposed the oil sands. And you have to remember that many people in the West often evoke Pierre Trudeau's national energy policy and accuse Justin of having the same agenda. He is eyed very suspiciously on the prairies.
It will take some really crafty political strategy to wind down the tar sands. Barring the door would result in the collapse of whatever leader/party pushed it, without a doubt.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In NB and Quebec, hydro power supplies 90% of the energy used. Hydro is the result of Jean Lesage and Pierre Trudeau pushing for local development over big oil.
True Dough
(17,296 posts)in Canadian hydro is bills in Ontario skyrocketing for the past year or two. The Wynne government has a real nightmare on its hands and it's a shame that hydro's reputation gets caught in the crossfire.
Laf.La.Dem.
(2,943 posts)Do you want to trade
Laffy Kat
(16,376 posts)OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I asked if we could keep him. He makes our guy look dumb. er.
Watalapan
(93 posts)Obama
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Nnnnnnnnnnnnnewp!