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Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:48 PM

Daytona 500

Will you watch?

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Reply Daytona 500 (Original post)
warrprayer Feb 2016 OP
cantbeserious Feb 2016 #1
warrprayer Feb 2016 #2
cantbeserious Feb 2016 #3
warrprayer Feb 2016 #6
warrprayer Feb 2016 #8
House of Roberts Feb 2016 #4
warrprayer Feb 2016 #5
A HERETIC I AM Feb 2016 #32
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #36
petronius Feb 2016 #7
warrprayer Feb 2016 #9
LiberalElite Feb 2016 #10
warrprayer Feb 2016 #13
In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #11
warrprayer Feb 2016 #12
warrprayer Feb 2016 #15
Myrina Feb 2016 #20
warrprayer Feb 2016 #21
A HERETIC I AM Feb 2016 #31
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #14
warrprayer Feb 2016 #16
warrprayer Feb 2016 #17
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #18
warrprayer Feb 2016 #22
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #26
Mnpaul Feb 2016 #56
Enthusiast Feb 2016 #59
Mnpaul Feb 2016 #60
Myrina Feb 2016 #19
warrprayer Feb 2016 #23
Myrina Feb 2016 #25
warrprayer Feb 2016 #28
kentauros Feb 2016 #24
warrprayer Feb 2016 #27
kentauros Feb 2016 #29
warrprayer Feb 2016 #37
Mnpaul Feb 2016 #57
kentauros Feb 2016 #61
Brother Buzz Feb 2016 #30
warrprayer Feb 2016 #38
Brother Buzz Feb 2016 #44
warrprayer Feb 2016 #45
OxQQme Feb 2016 #33
warrprayer Feb 2016 #39
Brother Buzz Feb 2016 #47
warrprayer Feb 2016 #48
Hotler Feb 2016 #34
warrprayer Feb 2016 #41
OxQQme Feb 2016 #50
Hotler Feb 2016 #51
OxQQme Feb 2016 #52
Hotler Feb 2016 #55
Mnpaul Feb 2016 #58
CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #35
warrprayer Feb 2016 #42
bigwillq Feb 2016 #40
warrprayer Feb 2016 #43
ghostsinthemachine Feb 2016 #46
warrprayer Feb 2016 #49
OxQQme Feb 2016 #53
warrprayer Feb 2016 #54
SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #62
warrprayer Mar 2016 #63
GOLGO 13 Mar 2016 #64
Chan790 Mar 2016 #65
warrprayer Mar 2016 #66
BlueCollar Mar 2016 #67

Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:49 PM

1. No

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:52 PM

2. I will

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:56 PM

3. Let Those Citizens Without TVs Know How Things Turnout

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:09 PM

6. I consider it

A duty and a pleasure

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:17 PM

8. Thanks for the rec!

This years Daytona trophy?


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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 05:58 PM

4. Didn't I just comment on this?

No wait, the picture is different.

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:04 PM

5. Yup!

"If there's one thing that NASCAR drivers are famous for, it's turning left. Apparently it's the same for its fans.

Polling amongst NASCAR fans isn't looking good for Mitt Romney, who is behind Barack Obama by seven percentage points 41% to 48%.

The poll, conducted by polling pollsters Zogby, showed that NASCAR's loyal fan base are actually in Barack Obama's corner, so to speak. The crosstabs show a small sampling, but those who identify as NASCAR fans prefer the president."

http://jalopnik.com/5945896/poll-shows-barack-obama-leads-mitt-romney-amongst-nascar-fans

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:35 PM

32. The NASCAR Fan demographic is quite fascinating.....

from a human interest perspective, if not a socioeconomic one.

It has morphed, and quite by design, if I may say, from the classic caricature of the "Good Ol' Boy" to a series that does it's best to appeal to women (who they discovered years ago make most of the household purchases) as well as families completely.

NASCAR as a marketing entity has done the best they could with the tools they had to make the series into something watchable on TV as well as the track. Their biggest problem (it seems to me) continues to be ticket prices in a difficult economic environment for the majority of its fan base. Taking a family of four to the race will run well in excess of $400 for race day alone. If you don't live within driving distance, add in either hotels or RV costs and you are looking at the better part of a grand for a 3 to 4 hour event.

Add extra days and you get a break on the per-day rate, but still, it ain't cheap.

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Response to A HERETIC I AM (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:38 AM

36. You, Sir, are an interesting demographic if there ever was one. nt

 

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:14 PM

7. No, car racing isn't my thing. But I hope it's a fun race for those who

do watch, and safe for those on the track...

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Response to petronius (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 06:20 PM

9. Thanks, and a reminder

To all race fans...

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 08:42 PM

10. No. I don't get it.

watching cars go around and around and around. Oh well...

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:30 PM

13. ...

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 09:20 PM

11. They're turning left! They're turning left!

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:26 PM

12. I love turning left!

Faster! Faster!

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:34 PM

15. Truth....

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:57 AM

20. Unless you're at Watkins Glen ...

n/t

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Response to Myrina (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:37 PM

21. That...

Is also true!

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Response to Myrina (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:25 PM

31. Or Sonoma.

That's one thing I loved about the Indy Car series back in the 90's.

1 Mile ovals, 1.5 mile ovals, 2 mile Super Speedways, 2.5 mile Super Speedways, street courses and 3 different natural terrain tracks.

Throw in the only race in the world where each seat has about the same view of the entire course(Burke Lakefront Airport, Cleveland) and you had a race series with the most diversification of track types in the world.

And sure, If I'm home, I'll probably watch the 500. It's only ~90 miles down the road, but I'll have a better view on the TV

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:32 PM

14. When I was a young man I liked stock car racing.

I don't watch now because the cars are nothing at all like production vehicles. They now even run weird one off engines that don't exist in the production line up. IIRC only the GM engines actually exist in production.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:37 PM

16. Once upon a time

You could buy one of fhese from a dealer.
They made it available to keep NASCAR from outlawing the 426 Hemi.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 14, 2016, 10:47 PM

17. Forgot to add the pic...

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:26 AM

18. I remember a new one in the showroom at my local Chrysler dealer.

Before that there was the Charger 500. The back glass was flush like on the Daytona but otherwise it was a regular charger. I believe the standard engine was a 426 HEMI. I only saw the one but they did build 500.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:40 PM

22. Because

Nobody could beat Petty driving the hemi, so Ford cried about it.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:45 PM

26. It's an interesting history.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #26)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 10:57 PM

56. Did you know

that the huge wing wasn't for downforce? It was the vertical sections that made the car stable at high speeds much in the same way a vertical stabilizer works on an airplane.

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Response to Mnpaul (Reply #56)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:19 AM

59. No, I didn't know about that. Cool.

That is some gigantic wing!

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #59)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 12:35 AM

60. It had to be that big

NASCAR rules at the time required the trunk to open. The wing had to be that big to clear the trunk lid.

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 10:56 AM

19. NASCAR has made it difficult to be a fan anymore ...

... too many commercials, sponsor-focused 'human interest' snippets, and moving to the cable networks (FS1 / NBCSports) for most of the season has removed it from 'the common fan' ... so I'll watch but not nearly with as much on-going interest as I have in the past.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 03:41 PM

23. You can't...

Go back.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:38 PM

25. Hah. I paid very little attention last season ...

... I don't have cable so what I was able to see was few & far between ... I noticed watching DIS qualifying yesterday that there are quite a few new / unknown names in the pits ... and holy cow, Matt Kenseth has been in NASCAR for 20 years already?

Shit I'm old.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:36 PM

28. Me too!

It seems like yesterday I was cheering Dale Earnhardt....

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 04:05 PM

24. Not when I can listen to F3 and F4 noise whenever I want!

Spa-Francorchamps - Formula Race Noise

F3 Passby (my favorite)

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Response to kentauros (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:35 PM

27. Rich mans sport

But so is NASCAR now...

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:52 PM

29. What autosport

isn't a rich man's sport? Even the "supercars" I'd love to have the opportunity to at least drive once are only for the wealthy (or the presenters on shows like Top Gear.)

However, anyone can go and see any race. I just find formula and rally races far more exciting and interesting

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Response to kentauros (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:37 PM

37. Totally cool!

One mans Pontiac Fierro is another mans Lambo!

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Response to kentauros (Reply #29)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:02 PM

57. There are many that are affordable

local stock car racing
drag racing
gymkana
24 hours LeMons racing
Chump car
demo derbys

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Response to Mnpaul (Reply #57)

Fri Feb 19, 2016, 03:42 AM

61. The only drag racing I'd want to see

would be the all electric kind. I just don't go to races of any kind. I do like that stuff; just don't get out to them

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Mon Feb 15, 2016, 07:18 PM

30. I will be watching....

And I'm happy Fox sports hired Jeff Gordon for race analyst. He has a vocabulary exceeding fifty words and can actually string words together into cohesive thoughts, and his native California dialect is easy on my ears.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:39 PM

38. That sounds good

Some have trouble deciphering Southern drawls!

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 08:38 PM

44. I have no problems understanding southern drawls, it's just the Waltrip brothers

and their hillbilly caterwauling I can't decipher. There are times when that idiot, Michael Waltrip makes G W Bush sound like a [strike]Rhodes Scholar[/strike] road scholar. (see what I did there? )

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #44)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:05 PM

45. Totally see

What you did there!

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:36 AM

33. Bill Elliot's son, Chase, got pole position today

in Jeff Gordon's #24 in qualifying for the 500.

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Response to OxQQme (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:40 PM

39. Thanks for the news!

I'm really looking forward to a great race

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Response to OxQQme (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 12:17 AM

47. Nobody was smiling more than Jeff Gordon and a cool backstory how Chase kept No. 24

Numbers game: Why Chase Elliott will keep the No. 24

By Tom Jensen Jan 29, 2016

It was no real surprise that Chase Elliott was announced Thursday as Jeff Gordon's replacement in the No. 24 Hendrick Motorsports Chevrolet in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series.

What may have surprised some fans is that when Elliott takes over for Gordon in 2016, he will keep Gordon's No. 24.

After all, the Elliott family number is the No. 9: Chase's father, Bill, who will be inducted into the NASCAR Hall of Fame Friday night, scored 38 of his 44 career Sprint Cup victories in the No. 9, and Chase won the NASCAR Xfinity Series title last year in a No. 9 JR Motorsports Chevrolet.

Currently, Richard Petty Motorsports uses the No. 9 in the Sprint Cup Series, but teams have been known to trade numbers, often in exchange for undisclosed sums of cash. An accommodation probably could have been reached.

But Chase Elliott said he was thrilled to be able to keep Gordon's number when he moves up.

"I think having the honor of driving the No. 24 is something that a racer can only dream of," Elliott said during Thursday's final stop on the Charlotte Motor Speedway Media Tour presented by Technocom. "Honestly, that is such an iconic number. It's a legendary number.

"And for Jeff to tell me that he wants me to drive the No. 24, that right there is plenty enough for me to be on board with it," said Elliott. "He asked me if I was OK with that, and if we were shaking hands, I'd have ripped his arm off. That's an opportunity that nobody would turn down."

For his part, Gordon is totally on board with it, although team owner Rick Hendrick tried to talk him into putting the No. 24 on sabbatical for 2016 only.

"Rick threw that option out to me," Gordon said of not running the No. 24. "He kind of wanted to retire it for maybe a year or something like that. ... For me, seeing it out there is important. I think the fans, while some of them might have a strong opinion thinking it should be retired, when they see how well he (Elliott) does in it, I think they're going to be really glad he's driving that 24 car."

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #47)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:15 PM

48. Interesting!

Thanks for posting that!

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:02 AM

34. Television doesn't do the speedway justice.

You have to see it up close or race there in order to truly appreciate it. I used to roadrace motorcycles in the mid 80's late 90's and rode Daytona many times. 160+mph on a superbike on the banking is a eye opener the first time.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:42 PM

41. That would give me bike fright

I'd be kissing the ground after getting off!

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Response to Hotler (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:08 PM

50. You're right Hotler

Seeing the track in person amazes the senses. The enormity. The steep banks.
I wasn't a 'rider' but a 'wrench' for a pro expert Triumph team and was there in '67 & '68 competing.
(500cc OHV vs 750cc flatheads era)
But, ya know what? As a feet-on-the-ground or a butt-on-the-slat spectator---it SUCKED!
Why? Limited view of the whole track.

Give me a view over Harvick's/Logano's/Danica's shoulder with a camera that tilts---TILTS-as the car rolls into the banking.
Or a looking back angle from under the car at the front air splitter of the car that's inches behind-- at 200mph.
Or the 'gopher cam' with the subwoofer cranked.....WEE CRANK IT UP! :0)
A view from inside the fender showing glowing red brake rotors.
Helmet cams on the tire changers.
This year we'll be given views of the new digital dashes.
I hope they utilize the drone cam again this year.

I salute the TV camera crew and the logistics of moving all that gear weekly.
thank you also to the safety committee people.



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Response to OxQQme (Reply #50)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:19 PM

51. I agree....

I don't follow all the stock car races, but I do try and catch the super speedways and especially the road courses. Next to stock car I like the Rolex-24 and the 12-hrs. of Sebring, glowing brake rotors there for sure. I've been at Daytona when the stock cars are doing practice by themselves and the sound of a small-block singing at high revs is music to my ears.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #51)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:00 AM

52. Oh yeah...the music

I find it fascinating that there is a different sound of each brand's V8s.
Another cool tune was the factory Harley's flathead's at full song.


Some good footage here of the type of racing I was involved in --> ya might wanna turn the volume down before you click play



Sideways at 100mph

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Response to OxQQme (Reply #52)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 09:47 AM

55. If you ever get a chance to go to and watch...

the Springfield Mile in person do it. You will not regret it. Three wide sideways in the corners at 100mph, and 130 down the back straight.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #34)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 11:13 PM

58. Television makes it look easy

I got a feel of what it is really like on my NASCAR Sim with a force feedback wheel. In realistic mode, it is difficult to do for 25 laps much less 200. The NASCAR Sim is so realistic that you have to make corrections on the wheel when someone pulls out behind you. It was always fun when friends wanted to give it a go. They usually couldn't make it more than a few labs.

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 10:05 AM

35. Nahh, a few hours of guys going left gets kind of boring

On that rare occasion I watch cars go really fast it's more Formula One for me.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:43 PM

42. Different motorsports

For different folks!

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:41 PM

40. No (nt)

 

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 07:50 PM

43. Yup

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Feb 16, 2016, 11:22 PM

46. Oh yeah, I love racing.....

always have. Sad that Jeff Gordon won't be there anymore, but I'll find someone else to root for.

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Response to ghostsinthemachine (Reply #46)

Wed Feb 17, 2016, 05:16 PM

49. Have Buffalo wings

Will watch Daytona!

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 02:48 AM

53. The Ultimate Turn Left Motorsport

All European countrys field teams. Huge sport there.
500cc alchohol burners
Jump in to 6:00 for first heat race

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Response to OxQQme (Reply #53)

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 08:08 AM

54. Reminds me

Of the outlaw sprint cars!
Godd stuff!

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #54)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:26 PM

62. Owner of NASCAR

And several drivers just endorsed Trump. Less than 5%, maybe as low as 2%, of any NASCAR crowd are Democrats.
But you will find plenty of Confederate flags and red "Great Again" baseball caps.

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:08 PM

64. No. Never have, never will.

It's like horse racing, golf, baseball. It's what I call grandpa "sports".

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:52 PM

65. Nope.

 

Even growing up in a household full of NASCAR fans, I've never been even remotely interested in auto-sports. They'd watch the race and I'd root for the long red flag so I could get some peace and quiet to read.

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Response to Chan790 (Reply #65)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:27 PM

66. I love

Reading too!

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Response to warrprayer (Original post)

Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 AM

67. yes

But it will be on in the background. I used to look down on NASCAR but after watching for a few seasons I have learned that there are many nuances that make up a NASCAR race.

It is actually a very complicated series of events that go into driving around the track 200 times at speeds averaging close to 200 MPH.

Although strides have thankfully been made in safety, compared to F1 and Indy Series racing, the cars are nowhere nearly as safe furthering my appreciation for the courage of the drivers.

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