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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:11 PM Jul 2013

What are the best (non-snappy, work appropriate) come backs to people who randomly snipe at you?

I have a co-worker who is suddenly disrupting in odd ways- basically if I say black she says "No, white!" immediately.
Even if I am talking to someone else- she has started constantly chiming in with negatives.

The thing is, she has corporate big wigs on her side, she is just feeling her power by effing with me- usually has NO idea what she is talking about but it would be considered rude/ weird to correct her since she is doing it about inconsequential things and I can't act tit for tat- no one cares enough and that would make me look bad. The other day she basically said I was lying about something, (something she had no way of knowing at all - very weird)- and I really wanted to go off - but it really wouldn't be wise to. I was just dumbfounded.

I'm not even in a position to really challenge her or ask her WTF is up. Usually I am very direct with people and not good at that southern bless your heart thing- although I am trying to kill her with kindness. But she is being a contrary ass and I think she would tone it down if her behavior was made more obvious.

The only one I have ever heard of that is all- purpose is, "What did you say?" or "Come again? " to make them repeat it when they say something really crappy/ negative. Anything else? I'm going to need a few to shut this crap down. She is not getting the best of me. Please heeelp!

TIA

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What are the best (non-snappy, work appropriate) come backs to people who randomly snipe at you? (Original Post) bettyellen Jul 2013 OP
The peanut gallery speaks. hobbit709 Jul 2013 #1
Some times there is no way to win. Eventually everyone will get wise to her tricks. In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #2
I wish you were right - my company lets assholes play these games all the time. bettyellen Jul 2013 #11
a generic "My heavens!"..... hlthe2b Jul 2013 #3
"my heavens" is pretyy good- I need lighthearted and amusing. I need to amplify the fact that she bettyellen Jul 2013 #10
This worked for me dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #15
I actually love this - but might not be able to pull it off. BUT!! It has inspired me to use "us" bettyellen Jul 2013 #17
Just remember..a bitch is dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #20
BTICoH, really? HarveyDarkey Jul 2013 #28
LOL Morning Dew Jul 2013 #44
Broad In Total Control of Herself? SwissTony Jul 2013 #52
The phrase had its place.. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #53
"Oh dear!" is another good one. JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #38
Kill her with kindness... Texasgal Jul 2013 #4
oh gosh, I am always kind to coworkers and been extra so lately- but she has been sent on a bettyellen Jul 2013 #8
I hear you. Texasgal Jul 2013 #13
And I'd be sure to do it in the presence of witnesses. nt raccoon Jul 2013 #35
whatever she says, I am sure it is ... very interesting ... Tuesday Afternoon Jul 2013 #5
that's interesting is another good one- thank you! bettyellen Jul 2013 #9
I don't know about a come back, LeftofObama Jul 2013 #6
I could combine this with the "Sorry- I was talking with X and missed what you said" kind of thing. bettyellen Jul 2013 #12
My come back for that is..excuse me for talking while you were interrupting. madmom Jul 2013 #42
Proactively. Chan790 Jul 2013 #7
Ha ha, I wish I could say the opposite. I love the idea. bettyellen Jul 2013 #24
I would look at her and ask, "Are you angry with me about something?" nt LiberalEsto Jul 2013 #14
nope- that's an automatic trip to HR here. I wish I could clear the air.... but it is bettyellen Jul 2013 #18
ask "why?" hopemountain Jul 2013 #16
This too works! Thank you! bettyellen Jul 2013 #19
Or the more pointed TuxedoKat Jul 2013 #21
Oh wow, a collection of links!! Thanks so much! These look really good. bettyellen Jul 2013 #26
My usual response to a shitty outburst is: Aristus Jul 2013 #22
That's good and it probably makes them angry(er). nt raccoon Jul 2013 #40
"You are doing it wrong" MissB Jul 2013 #23
I think thanking her is hilarious! Love it. Thanks! bettyellen Jul 2013 #25
Stare at her for a minute... tavernier Jul 2013 #27
How about.... Wounded Bear Jul 2013 #29
Or how about Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2013 #30
Thanks everybody- you all are making this Monday a little easier to cope with! bettyellen Jul 2013 #31
A small smile and smaller headshake. Then walk away. Scuba Jul 2013 #32
Say the opposite of what you want then agree with her when she counters with your idea. fglad Jul 2013 #33
"Welcome to our conversation. Did you receive an invitation?" lastlib Jul 2013 #34
Another good old stand-by: "You may be right." nt raccoon Jul 2013 #36
This will be a 'wrong' answer libodem Jul 2013 #37
Thanks! Wish I could too! bettyellen Jul 2013 #49
"Your what hurts?" Iggo Jul 2013 #39
I just smile and walk away. Myrina Jul 2013 #41
well, sadly during meetings that wouldn't work. ;-0 bettyellen Jul 2013 #48
Ask her to elabotate on everything she says... Demo_Chris Jul 2013 #43
Very good point. Thanks Chris! bettyellen Jul 2013 #46
We seem to use "allegedly" at my workplace. Agschmid Jul 2013 #45
Ha ha... I might start using it too! bettyellen Jul 2013 #47
It's fun, not too mean but gets the point across :) Agschmid Jul 2013 #50
"Well Bless Your Heart" ismnotwasm Jul 2013 #51
Best reply to stupid questions that I ever heard. hamsterjill Jul 2013 #54
Some great quips on this thread... ms liberty Jul 2013 #55
If you were in a union workplace Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2013 #56
Yeah not options- it's a very political environment and I would lose that one. It's just the way the bettyellen Jul 2013 #57

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
2. Some times there is no way to win. Eventually everyone will get wise to her tricks.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jul 2013

Your idea of "What did you say?" is probably the best for now.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
11. I wish you were right - my company lets assholes play these games all the time.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:03 PM
Jul 2013

It maybe them thinking about the budget- time to get rid of me and hire somone cheaper.
She is just being used as a pawn. I just have to weather the abuse and not screw up.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. "my heavens" is pretyy good- I need lighthearted and amusing. I need to amplify the fact that she
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:01 PM
Jul 2013

is being the asshole, and I am the nice guy. I need to laugh a lot of it off- this will help- thanks!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
15. This worked for me
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:13 PM
Jul 2013

Had a smart mouth know it all related-to-the-boss male coworker who had a need to poke at everything I said in a meeting or group or even one on one in the hallway.
I waited till he did it in a group of 4 of us, and said to him, in a friendly upbeat tone,
"are you being insigrievious with us?" and then turned to someone else and instantly started talking about the meeting subject.
The key to carrying it off was to have said everything in the right tone, with a smile, and then turning away and calmly talking to another person. Believe me, I had it planned out in my head.
Sure enough, the guy comes up to me in private and demands to know what "that word" meant.
I nicely told him to go look it up.
In the middle of the next days' meeting, he got in my face and loudly said " I looked it up a lot of places and there is NO such word!!"
and I said, in an offhand tone... " yes, I know".
while everyone stared at him for losing it in a meeting.

Worth a shot...and only if you think you can pull it off with the right tone.


 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
17. I actually love this - but might not be able to pull it off. BUT!! It has inspired me to use "us"
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:30 PM
Jul 2013

when answering her sometimes. She does ask "who did X or Y? in a pointed way- and it just occurred to me she is trying to divide my group. I work with a creative group and we make decisions together. So I will use "we and us" against this. Thank you!!
And I love your story- you are awesome. I can't believe I was scared of loungers, LOL.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
53. The phrase had its place..
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jul 2013

I used it when I was holding evening group therapy sessions for resentful court ordered guys.
It defused potential gripe sessions, and got the group re-focused on why they were there.

Texasgal

(17,042 posts)
4. Kill her with kindness...
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jul 2013

Seriously, comment on how well she did something or comment on how you like her shoes/hair/outfit etc.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. oh gosh, I am always kind to coworkers and been extra so lately- but she has been sent on a
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jul 2013

witch hunt to screw me over. Unfortunately, my company works this way when budgets are tight. I have a feeling they look at my salary and think they could hire 1 2/3 inexperienced people. They do not worry about the results or degredation of product. We used to get along great and someone put a bug in her ear- and it was someone important.
She;d probably get a raise if she could bust me screwing up or get me to quit.

Texasgal

(17,042 posts)
13. I hear you.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jul 2013

I had a co-worker that was like that, she constantly berated my work and was our boss's back pocket.

I tried many things until I finally decided to go the kindness route. I think she was intimidated by me in the end. I kept it up and she ended up leaving for another job but not before hugging me and telling me how much she's miss me! GAH!

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
5. whatever she says, I am sure it is ... very interesting ...
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jul 2013

so, that is what I would say: That is very interesting can you expand on that?

but, if she basically called you a liar ...

perhaps something ... along the lines of:

excuse me, can you clarify that statement because I am not sure I understood you correctly ... ? I would really appreciate it.

also:

ask her:

do you know what is company protocol in a case such as this?

Do we have any policies and procedures for this incident?

Are you sure we are on the same page? I want to stay up to speed on this case.

stuff like that, yanno.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. that's interesting is another good one- thank you!
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jul 2013

Unfortunately I am not in a position to discuss procedure (long story- but that is a losing battle at my work place- a thorny ssue as well) or go to HR unless it's a big one.
It's all been small stuff so far. But things are getting weirder by the day, we used to get along great.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
6. I don't know about a come back,
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jul 2013

but when someone interrupts my conversation I usually let it go the first time. After that I tell them in no uncertain terms that I wasn't talking to them. This kind of person really irritates the piss out of me!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. I could combine this with the "Sorry- I was talking with X and missed what you said" kind of thing.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 07:06 PM
Jul 2013
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
7. Proactively.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 06:46 PM
Jul 2013

"I don't know. {Janet} hasn't told me what I think yet."

"Hmm. Maybe we should ask {Janet}?

"I'm sure {Janet} would say we should {{do whatever your personal opinion would be.}}"

{{Argue the opposite of what you think}} <Let her butt in with the position you actually hold so you can cut her off to agree with her.>

Now she can't butt in because she makes herself the fool of the joke to do so. It's a nasty little shot across the bow of snark she can't take to upper management because she'd have to admit her previous poor conduct.

Call attention to her conduct, she won't like it one bit and you demonstrate that for whatever advantage she has in management on her side you out-possess it in wits.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
24. Ha ha, I wish I could say the opposite. I love the idea.
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jul 2013

I will use X will know a few times. She does't know much, so that will be interesting!!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. nope- that's an automatic trip to HR here. I wish I could clear the air.... but it is
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 08:33 PM
Jul 2013

political, and the company will never admit it is happening. They would twist it that I was angry. I have to keep cool and not even think it. And then it will blow over.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
21. Or the more pointed
Sun Jul 21, 2013, 10:04 PM
Jul 2013

"Why would you say that or "Why would you say something like that?" Really puts them on the spot and gives you time to recover and shore up your defenses.

Another good one, if someone is constantly bragging about this or that is "How nice for you."

There is also, "Well, bless your heart." But that implies that the recipient isn't too smart. Use with caution.

Here are some online articles that might have some info:

http://theworkplacetherapist.com/ways-to-protect-yourself-from-untrustworthy-co-workers/ (This one looks good)

http://www.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Overly-Competitive-Colleagues

http://www.divinecaroline.com/life-etc/career-money/ten-tips-dealing-backstabbing-coworkers

http://humanresources.about.com/b/2013/02/04/deal-difficult-people.htm

Carolyn Kepcher wrote a book called Carolyn: 101 -- This book had a chapter on dealing with devious coworkers that I thought had some good advice.

Good luck!

Wounded Bear

(58,620 posts)
29. How about....
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jul 2013

"I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure that what you heard was exactly what I meant."

Then pause and add, "Can you get back to me on that?"

Be sure to smile graciously.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
30. Or how about
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:05 AM
Jul 2013

"I see what you're saying."

Tells her you heard her, doesn't commit or engage you, and may leave her speechless.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
37. This will be a 'wrong' answer
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jul 2013

But it seems like the perfect opportunity to utter: "whatever" I know it is too rude, but I wish you could.


Some people just have that stubborn oppositional/ defiant streak, in their personality. Ick.

I feel for your difficult situation.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
41. I just smile and walk away.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 03:31 PM
Jul 2013

As the inimitable Flynn said in Tron: Legacy -- "Sometimes the only way to win is to refuse to play."

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
43. Ask her to elabotate on everything she says...
Tue Jul 23, 2013, 10:27 AM
Jul 2013

You cannot lose. If she has a point you will have learned something, and if she's just being a prick everyone will recognize it.

ismnotwasm

(41,973 posts)
51. "Well Bless Your Heart"
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 12:05 PM
Jul 2013

I'm not from the South, but the is the greatest responses to that kind of thing ever.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
54. Best reply to stupid questions that I ever heard.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jul 2013

Of course her comments may not always be questions, but for the questions, the best comeback I've ever heard is simply "Why do you ask"? Said with a straight face and in a calm tone - followed by a complete and long (if necessary) silence while she wonders what to say next!

ms liberty

(8,572 posts)
55. Some great quips on this thread...
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 07:17 PM
Jul 2013

One I would add would be "Really? Would you elaborate?" That throws the ball back in her court. Alternatively, you might use the now famous, "please proceed" if the situation is right!

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,562 posts)
56. If you were in a union workplace
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jul 2013

you could have the Delegate talk to her or file a grievance. If not, talk to the HR department?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
57. Yeah not options- it's a very political environment and I would lose that one. It's just the way the
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 11:18 PM
Jul 2013

company is structured- they give free reign to assholes who act like it's a HS cafeteria. Seriously.
Thanks though!

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