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ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:59 AM Oct 2012

Wow apparentely Juggalos actually exist and act that way in real life

So yesterday I saw Pianos Become The Teeth and Title Fight while handing out voter registration info. That show was fun. Between the opening band and Pianos I decided to grab a drink, so I went to the the liquor store right near the venue rather than pay for the overpriced drinks in the bar, and got one of those mini liquor bottles for a buck. Walked outside, downed the shot and then wondered what the fuck was going on. Some kids across the street were yelling at the kids in front of the venue, the ones across the street dressed in gangsta clothes and facepaint. I walked over just as the kids across the street apparently flipped off my people and was asking around just who the fuck those people were. The answer of course, juggalos. Apparently Twiztid, another rap group associated with ICP was playing somewhere near by, and yes people actually go out in such ridiculous clothes and facepaint in public to shows like that. I was visibly stunned as others nearby were. We joked about how it's too bad we didn't have any bottles of Faygo to throw at them. Later another group walked by the venue, some dude who had half his face painted, some girl in clothes that were indescribable in any words besides ridiculous, and some dude in the typical backwards baseball cap, jersey, saggy pants and chains nonsense. Some kids near the venue going to the good show laughed at them a bit, they yelled back a few "fuck yous" and walked off. I was still rather horrified people actually go out in public streets like that. I mean seriously? After the show I went to the bus stop near the other venue where I saw a guy leaving who was otherwise normally dressed but wearing a Twiztid cap. I guess they have no "that guy" rule.

Funny observation made by someone near my venue, after getting into the yelling argument with us, one of the facepainted kids asked just where they were going, as they didn't know where the venue was. Ha, fitting.

To put things into perspective though this is what the bands I saw look like:



And this is what Twiztid look like:

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Wow apparentely Juggalos actually exist and act that way in real life (Original Post) ButterflyBlood Oct 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author DisabledDem Nov 2012 #1
Juggalos have always existed - they just called them something differrent Taverner Nov 2012 #2
They're a particular breed though. cemaphonic Nov 2012 #4
I have no clue who any of these people are Kali Nov 2012 #3
Warning, wall of text incoming cemaphonic Nov 2012 #5
juggalos and juggelettes are actually listed as a criminal street gang ala the bloods and crips loli phabay Nov 2012 #6

Response to ButterflyBlood (Original post)

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
2. Juggalos have always existed - they just called them something differrent
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:04 PM
Nov 2012

It's called the teenage "woe-is-me-nobody-understands-me" syndrome

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
4. They're a particular breed though.
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:56 AM
Nov 2012

They're mostly poor, white suburban/small town kids from communities rife with poverty, unemployment and drug abuse. Unlike their more affluent angsty peers, they're not (for the most part) going to shake it off in a couple of years, go to college and have a bright future, but are looking at a life of low-end service jobs and petty crime. Especially given the current economic climate. So they band together in a very insular community where they can feel validated and accepted. Interestingly, despite this being exactly the sort of social climate that often breeds virulent racism, they're mostly pretty racially tolerant.

For the last couple of years, I've followed the media and internet coverage of the Gathering of the Juggalos with a mixture of horrified fascination of what a bunch of pathetic fuckups they are, and a shameful sense that all I'm doing is sitting in amused judgement of what a lot of people would call poor white trash.

Kali

(55,003 posts)
3. I have no clue who any of these people are
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 01:10 AM
Nov 2012

but hey, some of my friends were really into KISS and Alice Cooper so...meh whatever, sometimes those kinds put on good shows

now get offa my lawn!

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
5. Warning, wall of text incoming
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 02:04 AM
Nov 2012

This was on Something Awful a year or two ago, and despite being a long and odd story about mice, resonated with me, since I was amazed to realize that a band with as dumb of a concept as ICP was still going strong a decade after I forgot they existed.

I've never seen a Juggalo or heard of this band until I started reading Something Awful. Discovered them was like finding a hidden, secret, timeless treasure.

It's like checking behind your water heater in the basement, and discovering that a small group of friendly, sentient bipedal mice are building a village there. They're not scared of you, in fact, they welcome you into their tiny town with open arms.

During the hot summer days, you find yourself making excuses to sneak down there, to escape the heat. You bring gifts of cheese and small bits of wood and metal, and spend the evenings giggling as your secret tiny mouse friends scamper playfully across your belly and whisper in your ears... In the winter, you bring snug little felt blankets and heating elements and small candles to keep them warm and well lit. Sometimes, you'll spend hours down there, dozing, your very body heat keeping your mousefriends warm. Hours later, you wake up and make your way upstairs. Gilnathan, leader of the mice, tugs on your pantleg as you walk away. You kneel down slowly. He says, in his tiny squeaky voice, "Daniel...we all love you." Then he scurries away.

Weeks later, your wife begins to catch on. HEADIN' ON DOWN TO TINKER WITH THAT CARBURATOR AGAIN you'll half shout as you make your way down the basement stairs. "Dan. Please," she'll say, a foreign look on her face. Your blood turns ice cold. She knows. "Why don't you spend some time up here? With me?" She gives you a small sad smile, a silently pleading smile. She fixes her eyes on the large paper bag in your hands. "Ange. I can't just now. This is important." You avert her gaze and shuffle down stairs. You wait down there, silently. It's a few minutes before she finally walks back to the living room. Finally you can go back to your safe, magical mouse world, free from strife and stress.

As you step carefully into the space behind the water heater, placing your feet carefully, Gilnathan and his lieutenant Watson approach. They salute you smartly; "At ease, good friends," you whisper heartily. You crouch. "I have come bearing gifts. Has progress been great in the past week?" Gilnathan defers to Watson. "We have had marked progress on key areas," Watson announces. He's shouting at nearly the top of his lungs, but his voice is still very small. "Well," you say eagerly, "Let me see!"

The mouse town is coming along nicely! When you first discovered it, it was a rugged frontier town of cardboard and splinters, and small bits of foam. With your help, it has grown considerably. Over there is the town water tower. Rigged from a large water bottle, surgical tubing, and sturdy aluminum piping, it has enough water to last the hardy micefolk a few weeks. Alfred, an engineer friend at your firm, was puzzled with the request to built it, but you compensated him fairly. Every week or so you fill it via a funnel from the top; the mice can squeeze out choice drops from the small bladder rigged at the base. Nearby is the village. The buildings are made of sturdy double ply cardboard that the mice cut themselves with keen teeth. Toothpicks and pipe cleaners add structure and fabric scraps add comfort. You helped apply the glue at certain key points--wouldn't want your tiny friends to get caught! Near the water heater is the mushroom farms. They built a wooden frame to accept the potting soil you stole (in small amounts) from your wife's begonias. The heat, moisture and dark have allowed a decent crop of edible mushrooms to flourish there. The garden is tended to by Ratsputin, that wizened old mouse veteran. He can be ornery, but he takes his job seriously and that's all that matters. The mice's diet is supplemented by hunting small insects and arachnids that scuttle around in the dark basement. The hunting parties, always five or more mice strong, don small plastic shields you got from a Lego set and cocktail drink swords. As you arrive, one hunting party departs. You wish the huntmaster, Riolcaven, a safe and successful hunt.

The townsfolk gather around you quickly. The children in particular clamor around the paper bags. "Presents! Presents!" they squeak. You hush them gently, and produce sizable block of cheese. They all cheer. Heloverin, the female mouse scholar, approaches. She studies the huge blocky letters printed on the cheese's rind. "Goba?" she says hesitantly. "Very close!" you whisper excitedly. "Gouda". Heloverin bows her head shyly and melds back into the crown. She is the first to become literate. Soon, a schoolhouse for the youngsters will be built. You produce a few more objects, each time hearing your friends cheer. A small light that can be operated by one or two stout micefolk. Some assorted bits of hardware and metal springs, etc. A sheet of scratch and sniff stickers for blind old Shitdagger, bless her heart. The cheering subsides momentarily as footsteps on the floor above you move towards the kitchen. You glance up grimly. You hear the oven door open, and then the footsteps recede back into the living room. "Angie's just checking on dinner. We're ok." You whisper. You spend a few more hours down there, advising them and telling stories to the youngster. Afterwards, you spend a quiet, awkward evening with your wife. "Daniel. Is everything alright?" she asks, worry knotting around her eyes. You never answer. You gaze blandly at the TV, all the while wishing you were with them.

A week later, you come home early. Angie's home early too. Waiting for you as you step through the door. Sitting at the table, mug of cold coffee in her hands. Your fingers clench around the bag of miniaturized supplies you have in your hand. Your very loving rear end in a top hat clenches so tight it could shatter granite. Angie looks at you evenly, almost mildly, and says, "I went down to the basement today." Your heart sags to the bottom of your chest. You mouth flaps open wordlessly. Say something, you ponce! An excuse, a diversion! Maybe your micefriends recognized her footsteps and hid away. Hell, maybe she didn't even SEE the town, it's so well hidden...

Her next words shatter your thoughts. "I saw it. The little village. The tiny little town." You grin stupidly so your teeth don't loving chatter. "H-Honey. It's just a dumb little project I've been--It's for Drew's kid, really. I--I."

She cuts you off. "Dan, I found them too. Them." For a moment pure mortal fear ruptures through your brain. Images of dead mice, exterminated, smashed by a fearful, misunderstanding woman blaze through the visual centers in your cowardly brain. Twisted, ruined corpses of mice everywhere, bloated dead children mice, the stink of poison on their lips....Severed mouse heads mounted on pikes. Pools of blood. Dark Prince Satan laughing coldly in the blackest night... The look of terror is plain on your face. There is no hiding it. "Angela, please!"

She grins maniacally. "I just wanted to tell you that I..."

"...That I love it!"

You are astonished. "WHAT??"

Suddenly Gilnathan crawls out of her shirt pocket. "Daniel!" he waves. You are stupefied. As you step forward to take your wife and true love into your arms, Gilnathan says, "Daniel, it seems we have found yet another friend on this day. Let us be a family together." You cry an inarticulate yelp of joy, weeping like a child on Christmas. Gilnathan hops down and scurries through the new doggy door your wife installed on the basement access door. You and Angela make passionate, sweet love right there on the kitchen floor for what seems like hours. When you feel like you are ready emotionally, the two of you descend downstairs.

Soon the town expands. No longer needing to remain hidden, the mice flourish under the love of their twin caretakers. Your personal relationship problems melt away. Clan patriach Gilnathan rules fairly and wisely, and eventually retires. Watson accepts the role shortly thereafter.

On most days you and your wife step downstairs for short period of time. It is a hidden secret between only you two. You can hear the triumphant bugling of Riolcaven's successful hunt. Sometimes the two of you watch over Heloverin as she teaches her first class. You occasionally correct her, much to the delight of her students. Luckily mean old Ratsputin has volunteered his free time to help keep the students in line for shy Heloverin.

As the years pass you and Angela find yourself coming down less and less. The mice are becoming more independent. Klaus has even informed you secretly that they have sent small expeditionary groups to other houses in the neighborhood. "Mrs Bronson across the street divorced her husband years back," you advise. "The tool shed in their back year is all but untouched. She never goes back there." Klaus studies a small parchment map carefully. "We can get there easily through this pipe, day or night!" he squeaks excitedly, pointing. "Yes, but do be careful," you caution.

Angela celebrates her 57th birthday in a week. The mice have come upstairs in a rare kitchen visit. They have somehow obtained a small cheese danish for her to serve as a cake. She accepts it gracefully, eating only small bites in front of them. "While you are up her, mousefriends..." she starts. Martini, the newest clan patriarch (and a good, just mouse), listens raptly. "Daniel and I are getting old. It will be hard for us to visit you regularly. However, know that we both love you dearly. If you ever need anything, do not hesitate to to pop up topside and ask." A tear rolls down her face. "You are like children to us."

There is silence. Then--"And we all love you too!" It's Gilnathan, hunched in the back of the crowd. "Gil!" you cry, "How goes retirement?"

"Well, old friend. It goes well."

You and the mice and all their colonies live out the rest of your lives in peace and comfort and mutual love.

And that's what finding out about Juggalos is like.
 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
6. juggalos and juggelettes are actually listed as a criminal street gang ala the bloods and crips
Fri Nov 2, 2012, 03:03 AM
Nov 2012

now not everyone who is into icp is a criminal but there is an underset that live the gangster lifestyle and basically live the life of a street gang.

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