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TZ

(42,998 posts)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 07:50 AM Oct 2012

Rush (the band) nominated for Rock N Roll Hall of Fame!

The nominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's Class of 2013 are in. This year's hopefuls are Albert King, Chic, Deep Purple, Donna Summer, Heart, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Kraftwerk, the Marvelettes, the Meters, N.W.A., Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Procul Harum, Public Enemy, Randy Newman and Rush. The top vote-getters will be inducted on April 18th, 2013 at the Nokia Theater L.A. live in Los Angeles.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rush-public-enemy-deep-purple-nominated-for-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-20121004#ixzz28KXG5ojP

About damn time!

Oh and Jobycom...Shut up!

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Rush (the band) nominated for Rock N Roll Hall of Fame! (Original Post) TZ Oct 2012 OP
Gee, that only took, what, 14 years?? HughBeaumont Oct 2012 #1
Donna Summer,Chic and Kraftwerk were disco, N.W.A were hiphop rocktivity Oct 2012 #2
Kraftwerk was anything BUT disco! lastlib Oct 2012 #33
Rolling Stone did some list of 'Bands overlooked for R&R Hall of Fame. LynneSin Oct 2012 #3
From the fine print in the fan voting... AllegroRondo Oct 2012 #8
Oh I agree. Rush has never had the opportunity to receive votes LynneSin Oct 2012 #10
Is this the first time they got nominated? sadbear Oct 2012 #4
Yep. TZ Oct 2012 #6
Attention all planets of the Solar Federation... Dr. Strange Oct 2012 #5
LOL! TZ Oct 2012 #7
ALTHOUGH... Dr. Strange Oct 2012 #9
Seriously, Donna Summer? How is that rock, in any way, shape or form? TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #11
I'd let Joan in just for "Bad Reputation" OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #12
I'm sorry, she can be considered after they induct: TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #13
Oh there's no question there are many deserving bands OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #15
All right, I'll let you have Ms. Jett, if you agree TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #16
Absolutely! OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #22
None of the first four you mentioned are eligible yet NoGOPZone Oct 2012 #20
They have an irrational bias against prog rock KamaAina Oct 2012 #25
Dave Matthews Band--yep, seriously. He has brought TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #27
Moot point KamaAina Oct 2012 #28
Joanie plays rock-n-roll music- descended straight from Chuck Berry and Elvis, Jetboy Oct 2012 #34
Rush, Purp and Heart are no-brainers, hifiguy Oct 2012 #14
Another vote for Kraftwerk here. geardaddy Oct 2012 #17
Typically I would say that of rappers but Public Enemy and NWA are different LynneSin Oct 2012 #32
Uh, Randy Newman? progressoid Oct 2012 #18
Randy Newman is the master of Oscar-worthy songs LynneSin Oct 2012 #31
Long overdue for Paul Butterfield's band NoGOPZone Oct 2012 #19
They play well and their fans like them Taverner Oct 2012 #21
They play well and they still sell out arenas LynneSin Oct 2012 #30
Finally! KamaAina Oct 2012 #23
Geddy Goat-Bleater Lee? Why? hobbit709 Oct 2012 #24
Influential, innovative, and have the chops on TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #26
He's also a master musician TZ Oct 2012 #29
And he's a great guy. Watch this video. Bigleaf Oct 2012 #35

rocktivity

(44,575 posts)
2. Donna Summer,Chic and Kraftwerk were disco, N.W.A were hiphop
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:28 AM
Oct 2012

Why do they keep undermining their own credibility this way?


rocktivity

lastlib

(23,208 posts)
33. Kraftwerk was anything BUT disco!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 03:39 PM
Oct 2012

You might say they were a forerunner of the electronica genre today. A great band--I absolutely loved "Autobahn"!!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
3. Rolling Stone did some list of 'Bands overlooked for R&R Hall of Fame.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:41 AM
Oct 2012

They do these polls all the time, ones that readers can vote in and then they do those slideshow articles for online reading.

Thing is this - the Rush fans just overwhelmed the polls and no one even came close to Rush's first place finish. So I think Jann Wenner (editor of RS magazine), who has been very vocal about his dislike of Prog-Rock music, figured he'd finally have to get Rush onto the list.

The interesting loophole this year is that the people are also involved with the voting and I suspect that Rush will get picked. Jann can then say it was 'the people's will' not him backing off his anti-prog rock stance. Of course still waiting for Yes, Moody Blues, King Crimson and Jethro Tull to get their opportunities!!

My picks for this year: Obviously Rush - the fans are so fanatic that I suspect they will be the overwhelming first choice pick. We've also seen some of the early rap groups make RRHOF but this year's crop features bands that really gave Rap an edge it hand't seen in the past and thus Public Enemy (East Coast Rap) and NWA (West Coast Rap) will be on the list, expect to see an East Coast v West Coast all-star list of rappers pay tribute (btw I'm an East Coast fan). I also think the Meters will be picked and Randy Newman because Newman has been nominated 20,999 times for the Oscar in song-writing.

AllegroRondo

(10,245 posts)
8. From the fine print in the fan voting...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:47 AM
Oct 2012

It appears that the "fan vote" will be combined and count as one vote in the overall voting, with the other 600+ votes belonging to the usual record producers, artists, etc.

But I still think Rush will make the final five.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
10. Oh I agree. Rush has never had the opportunity to receive votes
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

And Rush has already taken a pretty commanding lead on the votes page. I think that will have some impact with the regular voters as to the importance of Rush in music history.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
4. Is this the first time they got nominated?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:36 AM
Oct 2012

Also, Deep Purple should be in there, too. They're too influential not to get in.

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
5. Attention all planets of the Solar Federation...
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:45 AM
Oct 2012

we have assumed control
we have assumed control
we have assumed control.

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
9. ALTHOUGH...
Reply to TZ (Reply #7)
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 09:48 AM
Oct 2012

it would be kind of funny if Rush fans decided not to vote and said that Rush was just too cool for the R&RHoF.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
11. Seriously, Donna Summer? How is that rock, in any way, shape or form?
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:18 AM
Oct 2012

What is Joan Jett being nominated for...her one lame-ass song? How is she on a par with Rush or Deep Purple? The RRHF is one fucking sick joke.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
12. I'd let Joan in just for "Bad Reputation"
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:38 AM
Oct 2012

it's a great song. She was an influential early female punk rocker and she writes music, plays guitar, produces and kicks ass. I saw her perform in the mid 80s and it was a great show and that was before I even knew much about her other than "I Love Rock and Roll". Combine her JJatBH experience with her 5 or so albums while in the Runaways plus all the other bands she has produced since then and you can easily make a great case for this talented lady being in the RnR HOF.

I also like her politics.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
13. I'm sorry, she can be considered after they induct:
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:49 AM
Oct 2012

Nirvana
Pearl Jam
Dave Matthews Band
Rage Against the Machine
Rush
Iron Maiden
Deep Purple
Yes
King Crimson

Unless I'm mistaken and some of these groups are already in there. Too many good, influential groups being ignored. Too many rap/hiphop/disco acts in there, too many jokes like Guns N Roses.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
15. Oh there's no question there are many deserving bands
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:04 AM
Oct 2012

Although I hate Nirvana so I couldn't care less if they get in and DMB bores me but all those others certainly deserve it.

All I'm saying is Joan wasn't the 1 lame hit wonder you made her out to be. And if she were inducted on the basis of one hit, it would be Bad Reputation that did it in my book. But you're allowed to have a different book, brah. No biggie.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
16. All right, I'll let you have Ms. Jett, if you agree
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 11:10 AM
Oct 2012

that Nirvana changed the direction of rock music (along with Soundgarden, PJ, Alice In Chains, etc.)--for that alone, they deserve it. I am a "sis", by the way.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
22. Absolutely!
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:06 PM
Oct 2012

No question they helped change rock music although I like one of their influences, The Melvins, a lot more than them. Even though I don't care for Nirvana, I LOOOOOOOOVE Dave Grohl and Foo Fighters and pretty much everything else he's been a part of so I thank Nirvana for giving him a start. I imagine his success with them allowed him to do all the things that came after.

Sorry 'bout the "brah", sis.

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
20. None of the first four you mentioned are eligible yet
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

and while the HOF has an obvious bias against prog rock, I think it's bias against other subgenres like surf rock and psychedelia is even worse.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
25. They have an irrational bias against prog rock
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:15 PM
Oct 2012

hence no Rush, Yes or King Crimson.

Are the grunge bands eligible yet? 25 years must have elapsed since their first release.

And, Dave Matthews Band? Srsly??

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
27. Dave Matthews Band--yep, seriously. He has brought
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:21 PM
Oct 2012

a unique sound and style to rock music, breathed some fresh life into it--I see him as entirely progressive, while still writing songs with mass appeal. That is a tricky balance.

Jetboy

(792 posts)
34. Joanie plays rock-n-roll music- descended straight from Chuck Berry and Elvis,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

and skipping the schlock. She can't help it if most of her competitors are boring rock bands or worse. Joanie personifies rock-n-roll to a T. Leather jacket, 'tude, 3 chords and the truth. A modern Gene Vincent! Plus she's had a great deal of success touring and selling records and a great deal of influence via her first band, the brilliant Runaways. She fits every criteria necessary, the most important of which is playing actual rock-n-roll music.

Rock-n-roll is not the same thing as rock music in my book. It's the difference between going out dancing and sitting at home listening to the Dark Side of the Moon.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. Rush, Purp and Heart are no-brainers,
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 10:55 AM
Oct 2012

IMO. Kraftwerk also more than deserve induction - they founded and pioneered the entire genre of electonic rock/pop music. Rappers with a few ten thousandths of one percent of Kraftwerk's talent and originality have been stealing from them for decades.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
32. Typically I would say that of rappers but Public Enemy and NWA are different
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:22 PM
Oct 2012

If you noticed that so far with Rappers in the RRHOF it was more commericial radio friendly stuff with Run-DMC, The Beastie Boys and even Grand Master Flash.

Public Enemy and NWA took rap to a whole new level with PE being the granddaddy of East Coast rap (in your face) whereas NWA was the grandfather of West Coast rap (still in your face but in a bit of a laid back way). I remember having an interesting debate with rap fans about who was better PE or NWA and honestly - both are equal. And you can't put one in without putting the other one in.

I'm a bit disappointed that Salt n Pepa aren't on the list because they were the pioneers of women rapping.

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
19. Long overdue for Paul Butterfield's band
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 12:28 PM
Oct 2012

On edit: WTF, Albert King isn't in yet? And people are whining about Rush?

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
30. They play well and they still sell out arenas
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:16 PM
Oct 2012

The fact that they still book venues like Wells-Fargo in Philly shows they still draw crowds.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
26. Influential, innovative, and have the chops on
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 01:17 PM
Oct 2012

their instruments and in their songwriting. Some of their songs are now rock classics. That's why.

TZ

(42,998 posts)
29. He's also a master musician
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:14 PM
Oct 2012

you may not like his voice but he's probably the best bass guitar player in all of Rock N Roll

 

Bigleaf

(2,050 posts)
35. And he's a great guy. Watch this video.
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 06:55 PM
Oct 2012

I'm sorry. I can't embed it for some reason.

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=1920389

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