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Shermann

(7,399 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:35 PM Dec 2022

Six specific reasons why soccer blows

1) The game clock counts up instead of down and never stops. So, it counts up to some period (can never remember what it is) plus some minutes for stoppage (never know what that is either). This is less dramatic than a countdown to freaking ZERO.

2) Not enough scoring. If a team miraculously gets a 2-point advantage at halftime, they act like the game is all but over. Zero to zero final score is a thing. Ties are way too common.

3) Most scoring occurs on penalty kicks. Goalies often jump the wrong way. Why don't they just do a coin flip for the point instead?

4) Injuries seem largely faked. NFL players roll around on the ground in agony far less than these candy-asses. Get up and rub some dirt on it.

5) You can get penalized for merely kicking the ball to your teammate. OK hockey has this too, but at least hockey violence is real.

6) Announcers get way too excited when there is no actual scoring action. If you are listening to it in the background, you'd think the score is 24-23 (instead it is probably 1-0, or 0-0). Calm down, euro-dudes.

Did I forget any?

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Six specific reasons why soccer blows (Original Post) Shermann Dec 2022 OP
It always seems kind of stupid to me to hit the ball with your head, most people try to avoid that Walleye Dec 2022 #1
There wasn't a clock visible? underpants Dec 2022 #3
Not in the last two minutes Walleye Dec 2022 #5
3 is factually wrong. It's nonstop action and exactly 2 hours long. underpants Dec 2022 #2
The four most boring sports in history are jimfields33 Dec 2022 #26
The only thing that is nonstop is the kicking of the ball out of bounds! Shermann Dec 2022 #36
How much soccer do you watch? underpants Dec 2022 #43
I agree with you on the penalty kicks. On the rest of it: to each his/her own Coventina Dec 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Botany Dec 2022 #6
At this exact moment, it is quite exciting. 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #7
I don't disagree with all that, but NOW THIS GAME IS BEYOND WHAT YOU IMAGINE! hlthe2b Dec 2022 #8
Wow dem4decades Dec 2022 #12
That being said, athletes of world champion caliber are always interesting to watch Walleye Dec 2022 #9
Who thinks 3 plays then a 3 minute commercial break is fun? dem4decades Dec 2022 #10
Yeah. I still like NCAA football, but have largely dismissed NFL. hlthe2b Dec 2022 #20
TV time outs. underpants Dec 2022 #22
It's actually a big commercial with specks of football. dem4decades Dec 2022 #23
Exactly. Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #30
Well said. underpants Dec 2022 #44
Which is why soccer hasn't been allowed to be given a chance in this country. yonder Dec 2022 #46
The ball. ⚽️ underpants Dec 2022 #47
Go to a Latin American country and watch it. LakeArenal Dec 2022 #11
As a World Cup fan not a day in day out avid 'football' fan, MLAA Dec 2022 #13
7. If you are lazy on defense, the offense gets penalized.. JT45242 Dec 2022 #14
Cherry picking underpants Dec 2022 #21
You can start a play in football in an offsides position? dem4decades Dec 2022 #25
You guys are missing out on a truly riveting game and I say this as a non-fan. hlthe2b Dec 2022 #15
The ref let them play. Gave Argentina one last "play" underpants Dec 2022 #19
Players are way too tired from all that running bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #16
I will care about professional sports ... relayerbob Dec 2022 #17
Yet you cared enough to post AZSkiffyGeek Dec 2022 #27
And of all the posts on this thread to react to... relayerbob Dec 2022 #48
EXTRA TIME! If there was one match I am glad I am watching it is THIS ONE! hlthe2b Dec 2022 #18
If you don't like it Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #24
+++ JohnSJ Dec 2022 #28
Its so wierd vrguy Dec 2022 #29
If there was EVER a time such an OP post would have been so ill-timed & tone-deaf... hlthe2b Dec 2022 #33
There's room to poke some fun at the game without "trashing it" nt Shermann Dec 2022 #37
There's always someone who has to come and rain... 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #38
Do we really need an emote for this? Shermann Dec 2022 #45
It'll interrupt snowybirdie Dec 2022 #31
GOOD!! No loss. hlthe2b Dec 2022 #32
Oh boo hoo. Jilly_in_VA Dec 2022 #34
Some counters to your critiques: 3catwoman3 Dec 2022 #35
Some NFL games are low-scoring defensive struggles Shermann Dec 2022 #40
8) What's with the striped player jerseys? The players look like referees. Shermann Dec 2022 #39
The same uniform Argentina has worn for 84 years. hlthe2b Dec 2022 #41
Ah, interesting! nt Shermann Dec 2022 #42

Walleye

(30,978 posts)
1. It always seems kind of stupid to me to hit the ball with your head, most people try to avoid that
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:39 PM
Dec 2022

Also the stoppage thing. In high school wrestling it’s called blood time. I’ve covered a lot of sports as a News photographer hated soccer almost the most. Especially that you never know when the game is ending

underpants

(182,614 posts)
2. 3 is factually wrong. It's nonstop action and exactly 2 hours long.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:39 PM
Dec 2022

Americans are used to static sports where nothing happens for 70% of the event. Basketball, like all sports involving a ball*, is derivative of fütbol.

*baseball is the exception but it’s odd in a lot of ways. Oh, and BORING.

jimfields33

(15,693 posts)
26. The four most boring sports in history are
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:15 PM
Dec 2022

Baseball, golf, soccer, and tennis. The best I guess is football. Basketball has its moments.

underpants

(182,614 posts)
43. How much soccer do you watch?
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 03:19 PM
Dec 2022

The control of the ball they have is amazing. 20-30 yards apart 2 or 3 or 4 people all recognize what “the plan” is instantly. They then try to execute it in a surprisingly accurate way (with out the use of thumbs or flipping the wrist).

Coventina

(27,059 posts)
4. I agree with you on the penalty kicks. On the rest of it: to each his/her own
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:40 PM
Dec 2022

I love football! (As it's known everywhere but here).

Response to Shermann (Original post)

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
8. I don't disagree with all that, but NOW THIS GAME IS BEYOND WHAT YOU IMAGINE!
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:46 PM
Dec 2022

I'm not a soccer fan, but it is riveting!!!!

Walleye

(30,978 posts)
9. That being said, athletes of world champion caliber are always interesting to watch
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:46 PM
Dec 2022

I admit I’ve been watching these games and now France has tied it up, unbelievable

dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
10. Who thinks 3 plays then a 3 minute commercial break is fun?
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:47 PM
Dec 2022

How about 40 seconds of huddle, a 4 second play, another minute of untangling the bodies, followed by another 40 seconds of huddle, etc.

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
20. Yeah. I still like NCAA football, but have largely dismissed NFL.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:05 PM
Dec 2022

Soccer, like it or not, has the sheer continuous athleticism that is only occasionally evident in western PRO football-- a bit more so in collegiate.

underpants

(182,614 posts)
22. TV time outs.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:08 PM
Dec 2022

Football has set game play stoppage to sell ad time. Consumerism is a big part of our football.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
46. Which is why soccer hasn't been allowed to be given a chance in this country.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 04:02 PM
Dec 2022

With the exception of halftime, there is no room for the all important broadcast commercial. If my opinion is correct, it shines an ugly, capitalist-pushed, consumerist light on why any sports are even broadcast in this country.

Throughout the world, Futbol is watched and enjoyed by billions of people. It is sometimes played with little more than a ball and a pitch. Because it is universally played by people of all sizes and abilities, it is also a good athletic measuring stick. Why not in America where the sports emphasis is on large people, expensive equipment, flashy venues and too much TV-fed testosterone?

It seems that here selling more shit comes first, the American version of professional sport, second.

underpants

(182,614 posts)
47. The ball. ⚽️
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 05:23 PM
Dec 2022

The pentagon stitched ball was developed for the 1974 World Cup hosted in WEST Germany. After the 72 Munich Olympics it was part of the reintroduction of Germany back into the world. 5 hour time difference to the US east coast. The common and accurate perception that seeing the spin on the ball is key. Soccer balls at the time generally were white like a volleyball. The pentagons allowed specifically American audiences to see the spin.

TV has struggled forever with ads on soccer. Early US presentations actually had commercials. If there was a score they replayed it.

LakeArenal

(28,803 posts)
11. Go to a Latin American country and watch it.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:47 PM
Dec 2022

Even in Spanish the excitement is contagious.

Fans on tv are way more violent than watching with a group of fans.

For the record: Flops are part of the game. Young kids practice flopping on the school field. The kids playing next door practice flopping. It’s considered part of the game and they practice to be good at it.

To me that’s way better than actually hurting each other.

When your team gets the other them carded, it’s as good as the goal. Almost.

MLAA

(17,250 posts)
13. As a World Cup fan not a day in day out avid 'football' fan,
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:50 PM
Dec 2022

I got a smile out of your assessment. Number 6 particularly resonates and it goes double if you flip over to the Mexican station, the excitement level is through the roof.

France just scored twice in the last minute to tie up the match!

JT45242

(2,248 posts)
14. 7. If you are lazy on defense, the offense gets penalized..
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:52 PM
Dec 2022

Offside is ridiculous, it rewards lazy defense. Imagine in basketball, a breakaway pass being a penalty instead of a funk.

Or in football. The WR outruns the safety...no touchdown.

underpants

(182,614 posts)
21. Cherry picking
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:06 PM
Dec 2022

People who don’t come down to play D in basketball are frowned on. Not an official rule but it’s just not considered cool. After maybe one but after a while no one passes to the cherry picker.

Soccer could be like that if not for the offsides.

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
15. You guys are missing out on a truly riveting game and I say this as a non-fan.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:54 PM
Dec 2022

sad, but sometimes your assumptions need to be tested.

underpants

(182,614 posts)
19. The ref let them play. Gave Argentina one last "play"
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:04 PM
Dec 2022

Fox better not switch this over to another channel for the NFL.

bucolic_frolic

(43,056 posts)
16. Players are way too tired from all that running
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 12:58 PM
Dec 2022

They should shorten the field 25% and use two goalies per team

AZSkiffyGeek

(10,972 posts)
27. Yet you cared enough to post
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:23 PM
Dec 2022

Gotta make sure everyone knows you don’t care?
The best way to show you don’t care is to just keep scrolling…

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
18. EXTRA TIME! If there was one match I am glad I am watching it is THIS ONE!
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:02 PM
Dec 2022

Phenomenal players and spirit.

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
33. If there was EVER a time such an OP post would have been so ill-timed & tone-deaf...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:50 PM
Dec 2022

it is now. This is an incredible and apparently record-setting game of "firsts."

3catwoman3

(23,949 posts)
38. There's always someone who has to come and rain...
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 02:04 PM
Dec 2022

...on someone else's parade.

I find American football and baseball both rather boring. Golf, too. This post being a rare exception, I don't either start threads or add to threads bashing that which others enjoy, be it a sport, a genre of music or films, a type of cuisine, whatever.

3catwoman3

(23,949 posts)
35. Some counters to your critiques:
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 01:58 PM
Dec 2022

- Not enough scoring - are there no NFL games where very few touchdown are scored? Of course there are. Would you find it any more palatable if a soccer goal was worth 5 point instead of 1? I'm guessing you wouldn't.

- Penalty kicks - there are plenty of games where no penalty kicks are awarded. PK are expected to go in. They are successful 75+% of the time. A dramatic save is very exciting.

- Candy asses? Hardly. A soccer player who pays the whole 90 minutes of regulation time may run up to 7 miles in a game, especially the midfielders, who have to cover both sides of the pitch. In American football, the average play lasts 4 seconds, and in an entire NFL broadcast, the ball is in play for about 11 minutes. I'd like to see an NFL player run for 90 minutes.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
40. Some NFL games are low-scoring defensive struggles
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 02:10 PM
Dec 2022

Some are high-scoring shootouts.

Some are blowouts.

The variety makes it unpredictable and interesting.

The most candy-assed World Cup player could still kick my candy ass, I wouldn't take me too seriously.

hlthe2b

(102,127 posts)
41. The same uniform Argentina has worn for 84 years.
Sun Dec 18, 2022, 02:36 PM
Dec 2022

with vertical stripes in echo of the horizontal ones on their flag.

There are very few guarantees in life... but one of them is what Argentina will wear at the World Cup. Since their very first World Cup appearance 84 years ago the Argentinians wear a white jersey with light blue vertical stripes. They're doing it again in 2014. The familiar jersey is based heavily off of the national flag and has the AFA's badge in one corner with two gold stars above for their World Cup wins in 1978 and 1986. On the shoulders are three black stripes, yup, this is an adidas jersey.


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