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pnwest

(3,266 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:34 PM Nov 2020

My mom passed away. Goddamn Covid.

I’m not fishing for sympathy comments, I thank you all in advance for your condolences. I just wanted to add my story to those who’ve had to say goodbye to a loved one on a FaceTime call, raging at the infuriating needlessness of it all, the unfairness.

Alone and confused, suffering from dementia in an Alzheimer’s ward. Her facility is in the midst of a massive Covid outbreak, she contracted it and died alone. How do I get past that guilt?

Fuck dementia.
Fuck Covid.
Triple-fuck trump, May he burn in hell for eternity.

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My mom passed away. Goddamn Covid. (Original Post) pnwest Nov 2020 OP
I am so sorry and understand your feeling. You did the best you could under horrible spooky3 Nov 2020 #1
Hell, I'm sorry. Fuck Trump to Infinity. Jirel Nov 2020 #2
So, so sorry The Blue Flower Nov 2020 #3
Heartbreaking democrank Nov 2020 #4
So tragic, pnwest. I'm really sorry for you and your mom. BComplex Nov 2020 #5
So sorry for your loss! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #6
I am so sorry you lost your mom, especially in this very sad way. FM123 Nov 2020 #7
I'm so sorry! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #8
I am deeply sorry. onecaliberal Nov 2020 #9
Terrible--I'm sorry about your mom. BusyBeingBest Nov 2020 #10
You have my deepest sympathy. nancy1942 Nov 2020 #11
So sorry KT2000 Nov 2020 #12
I am so sorry for your loss. You did everything you could, jrthin Nov 2020 #13
I'm so sorry soothsayer Nov 2020 #14
This is a tragedy Wicked Blue Nov 2020 #15
Sending you love and peace... Freedomofspeech Nov 2020 #16
I can't imagine what you're going through. May you and your family find peace. In the meantime..... Fla Dem Nov 2020 #17
You have nothing to feel guilty about wryter2000 Nov 2020 #18
💖 MLAA Nov 2020 #19
Sorry for your loss pnwest. Think of the fond memories that you have of her. CentralMass Nov 2020 #20
Condolences, pnwest on the loss of your mother. gademocrat7 Nov 2020 #21
Hugs to you, it has to be horrible not being with her when she passed. redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 #22
I'm so sorry Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2020 #23
I'm so sorry sharp_stick Nov 2020 #24
Sorry to hear that. Jim__ Nov 2020 #25
I'm so sorry for your loss. AirmensMom Nov 2020 #26
I'm so sorry. barbtries Nov 2020 #27
My condolences pnwest! cayugafalls Nov 2020 #28
This is not your fault. You did your best.... Blue_playwright Nov 2020 #29
NOT your fault, let the guilt go Kali Nov 2020 #30
Gentle crossing to her. Peace to your heart. Hekate Nov 2020 #31
sorry MFM008 Nov 2020 #32
May he burn in hell! Wawannabe Nov 2020 #33
So very sad for your pain Generic Other Nov 2020 #34
Condolences, pnwest sarge43 Nov 2020 #35
I feel bad that you felt you needed to appologize. We're here for you. Losing a loved one and ... marble falls Nov 2020 #36
I'm so sorry. fierywoman Nov 2020 #37
Hang in. Better times ahead. BlueNProud Nov 2020 #38
So, so sorry. We understand your rage. It is not your fault. Miigwech Nov 2020 #39
I'm sorry. 💔 I've got three relatives with some form of it. GentryDixon Nov 2020 #40
I miss my Mom every day, though it has been years. My deepest sympathies to you... hlthe2b Nov 2020 #41
Guilt is solely the burden of someone that caused an outcome, in whole or in part. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #42
I'm so sorry for your loss. MissB Nov 2020 #43
Very sorry and sincerely share your anger. Didn't have to be. They never took it seriously. Still. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #44
My heart goes out to your and your family. May your mom Rest in Peace. iluvtennis Nov 2020 #45
My condolences rebe303 Nov 2020 #46
So sorry wish I could do more samplegirl Nov 2020 #47
I am living this same nightmare right now... Moostache Nov 2020 #48
If we had a leader at the start. pwb Nov 2020 #49
Bless your heart, so sorry for your loss... Raster Nov 2020 #50
.. Duppers Nov 2020 #51
My mom died a couple years ago Leith Nov 2020 #52
I'm so very sorry. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #53
OMG, that really hurts. I'm so very sorry to hear this. Hugs from a fellow NW'er. flibbitygiblets Nov 2020 #54
Yes, turn your grief to anger. And also grieve. I'm so sorry you're hurting. ancianita Nov 2020 #55
Please accept my sincere condolences on the loss of your mother. Operaweeble Nov 2020 #56
I'm so sorry for your loss. My heart reaches out to you. somaticexperiencing Nov 2020 #57
Condolences, a mothers death can change ones angstlessk Nov 2020 #58
Sorry for your sad loss Marthe48 Nov 2020 #59
My deepest condolences, pnwest! LaMouffette Nov 2020 #60
I would've furious too, hugs xx eom LittleGirl Nov 2020 #61
My most sincere condolences pnwest... SKKY Nov 2020 #62
K&R BootinUp Nov 2020 #63
I'm so so sorry! tavernier Nov 2020 #64
I'm so sorry, pnwest. calimary Nov 2020 #65
i am so sorry for the loss of your mom.... dawn5651 Nov 2020 #66
I'm sorry peacebuzzard Nov 2020 #67
Fuck trump. whopis01 Nov 2020 #68
Yeah! Fuck Trump! lunatica Nov 2020 #69
So sorry for your loss🙏♥️...n/t SayitAintSo Nov 2020 #70
Oh, how unfair. My heart aches for your grandmother and you, of course. Frustratedlady Nov 2020 #71
I know how heartbreaking this can be peggysue2 Nov 2020 #72
I'm so sorry Laurelin Nov 2020 #73
I am so sorry, pnwest Skittles Nov 2020 #74
I'm so sorry pnwest. Maraya1969 Nov 2020 #75
I am so sorry for the loss of your mother, pnwest. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #76
I'll say a special prayer for her and your family, and Ilsa Nov 2020 #77
I hear you, and fully agree with you! bluestarone Nov 2020 #78
Very sorry for your loss, pnwest! Different Drummer Nov 2020 #79
I am sorry. Losing you mom is like a knife in the heart. Good folk here if you need to reach out. Doodley Nov 2020 #80
I am so sorry, pnwest UpInArms Nov 2020 #81
I am so sorry for your loss, pnwest. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #82
So very sorry for your loss. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #83
Oh, I am so, so sorry! AwakeAtLast Nov 2020 #84
I have no words. Lady Freedom Returns Nov 2020 #85
fuck trump deek Nov 2020 #86
😪 BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2020 #87
I'm so very sorry. cate94 Nov 2020 #88
I'm So Sorry For Your Loss COL Mustard Nov 2020 #89
No guilt, you have no control over covid or him...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #90
So sorry... Phentex Nov 2020 #91
Heartbreaking leighbythesea2 Nov 2020 #92
I am so very sorry. Words. Fail in such times, but know that your DU family is here for you as niyad Nov 2020 #93
So sorry for your loss. Sogo Nov 2020 #94
I'm so sorry... CaptainTruth Nov 2020 #95
I'm so sorry. area51 Nov 2020 #96

Jirel

(2,018 posts)
2. Hell, I'm sorry. Fuck Trump to Infinity.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

And beyond.

Please don't feel guilty - you didn't cause this. But I do understand the horrible helplessness of that.

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
5. So tragic, pnwest. I'm really sorry for you and your mom.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:39 PM
Nov 2020

And for the needlessness of the whole damn thing.

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
13. I am so sorry for your loss. You did everything you could,
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

and much of it was out of your hand. My condolence.

Wicked Blue

(5,831 posts)
15. This is a tragedy
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

that could have been avoidable if there wasn't a selfish narcissist occupying that White House,

I am sorry for your loss, and for the way it happened.

Fla Dem

(23,650 posts)
17. I can't imagine what you're going through. May you and your family find peace. In the meantime.....
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:46 PM
Nov 2020

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
18. You have nothing to feel guilty about
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:47 PM
Nov 2020

The criminal in the White House is the guilty one for not controlling the virus.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
24. I'm so sorry
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:51 PM
Nov 2020

When my mother in law died of Covid back in May we felt the same. You are not alone, there are millions of us who have survived the loss of a loved one to this horrific disease and we are all there for you and each other.

Today is the day we can change course in this country and hopefully start ourselves on a path to finally defeat Covid with science and reason.

AirmensMom

(14,642 posts)
26. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:55 PM
Nov 2020

The guilt does not belong to you. Let that shit go.

And yeah. Fuck dementia, Covid, and triple-fuck trump. Let's hope he gets his own private viewing of hell with today's rout.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
27. I'm so sorry.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:55 PM
Nov 2020

this is the nightmare of Covid. #TrumpGenocide

the guilt is not yours, I'm sure you know that.

When my daughter died miles away from me and i was in counseling, my counselor cautioned me that at some point i would feel guilty. I said, I don't see how, I wasn't there, i didn't even know it was happening. Then came the plea bargain. i sat in that room and they told us the woman who killed Bekah would get a 4 year sentence. It was as if Bekah was being killed all over again, but this time i was sitting in the room. I couldn't do a goddam thing to change it.

I'll never forget the bleakness. just sitting there with my head down and tears pooling on the floor. I let this woman get away with murdering my daughter.

I share this so you know that i appreciate that even though with your mind you know there is nothing else you could have done for your mother, and you know that your mother knew you loved her, you still have this guilt. You didn't earn it, but there it is. Time is your friend. take all you need to grieve and work through this.



PS. justice should not have to wait for trump to die. Trials, tribunals, here in the US or internationally...I'm all for justice starting Jan2021

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
29. This is not your fault. You did your best....
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:57 PM
Nov 2020

...By her. Please know that.

I’m so sorry for your terrible loss.

Fuck COVID and fuck Trump.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
30. NOT your fault, let the guilt go
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:00 PM
Nov 2020

she is at peace now. I know the frustration, sorry for your loss.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
34. So very sad for your pain
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:08 PM
Nov 2020

Angry at the heartbreaking reason. Especially the politics of it.

We at DU are family. Your pain is my pain.

Do not even think it doesn't hurt me when you hurt. Sympathy and love.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
36. I feel bad that you felt you needed to appologize. We're here for you. Losing a loved one and ...
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:10 PM
Nov 2020

sharing your pain and frustration is not going to be mistaken for a bid for sympathy by us even though we all sympathize with your loss and the extra weight added to it by the Pandemic.

I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Please know we think about you and lift you and mom in all our very different types and styles of prayer.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
39. So, so sorry. We understand your rage. It is not your fault.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:30 PM
Nov 2020

He will have to answer for your pain .... hell will be too nice a place for him. The spirit world is working on it.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
41. I miss my Mom every day, though it has been years. My deepest sympathies to you...
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:36 PM
Nov 2020

especially the COVID-based restrictions that prevented you from being there.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
42. Guilt is solely the burden of someone that caused an outcome, in whole or in part.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:36 PM
Nov 2020

Fury is what you should be feeling, IMO.

Again...just my opinion.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
48. I am living this same nightmare right now...
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:47 PM
Nov 2020

I don't know what to say other than you're not alone in this horrible pain.

My mother has not yet passed, but we are desperate to get her home and out of hospitals and rehab centers that are failing her. She has cancer and has beaten it back for 20 years through 7 separate fights, Its been a miracle, but we are running out of options and a recent fall pulled her away from home and into a series of lock downs where we cannot visit or see her.

Even though she has so far avoided COVID, her condition is terminal and we cannot communicate directly with her and she feels abandoned and alone and is suffering great depression as well. It is not COVID, but COVID is causing this pain.

I can feel your pain all too well and I wish I had an outlet for either of us, all I can offer is pathetically inadequate understanding...

pwb

(11,261 posts)
49. If we had a leader at the start.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:49 PM
Nov 2020

At this late stage it should have been under control and your Mom and my friends would be with us. This disease is from Satan himself with this awful dying alone. Fuck all Pukes.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
52. My mom died a couple years ago
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:57 PM
Nov 2020

but I'm slowly getting to where I can think of her and smile without tears.

My sympathies.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
55. Yes, turn your grief to anger. And also grieve. I'm so sorry you're hurting.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:02 PM
Nov 2020

It's a horror for her to have died alone. You know you did your best short of dying with her, which she, as your mother, would not want for you. I don't know her, of course, but I'd wager that she would want you to go forward, keeping her in your heart and spirit.

As we carry guilt, we can remember that we are all alone together.

As best we can, we want to be here for you, pnwest.

LaMouffette

(2,023 posts)
60. My deepest condolences, pnwest!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:19 PM
Nov 2020

May Trump burn in hell alongside all of his enablers in Congress. I'm so very sorry for your loss!

SKKY

(11,803 posts)
62. My most sincere condolences pnwest...
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:24 PM
Nov 2020

...My Aunt, who I hold in similar regard as my mother, is struggling for every breath due to COVID. I dread getting a call from any of my family at the moment.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
64. I'm so so sorry!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:44 PM
Nov 2020

You are not allowed to have guilt... You. Did. Nothing. Wrong!!!
And you know that your mom agrees. Remember her with your pure love, untainted by needless guilt.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
65. I'm so sorry, pnwest.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:46 PM
Nov 2020

Damn. I’m sorry for your loss and very sorry for your heartache.

You did the best you could. Unfortunately, something like the pandemic can overpower any and all efforts to get the better of it. At least while trump still has anything to say or do about it.

THAT part, hopefully, we can fix. And we’ll do it in her honor, and in honor of all those who didn’t have to die but for the Big Orange Failure.

Virtual

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
69. Yeah! Fuck Trump!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:06 PM
Nov 2020

My mom had Dementia too. The only good thing was that she knew who I was until the end.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
71. Oh, how unfair. My heart aches for your grandmother and you, of course.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:25 PM
Nov 2020

That had to have been so frustrating to stand by when that's all you could do. Life isn't fair, but this situation is terribly unfair.

You certainly aren't alone.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
72. I know how heartbreaking this can be
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:33 PM
Nov 2020

My sister died in January with early onset Alzheimers, a full Pat Summitt replay. The one good thing is my sister's death just missed the disastrous uptick of Covid. Had it been otherwise, she too would have died alone in a nursing home. Her partner cared for her at home until the last 10 days.

The dementia itself is grueling and cruel for patient and caretaker alike.

Sorry to hear this.

Laurelin

(522 posts)
73. I'm so sorry
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

I'm sure your mom wouldn't want you to feel guilty. Grief is hard enough but impossible to avoid.

Skittles

(153,149 posts)
74. I am so sorry, pnwest
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:56 PM
Nov 2020

my younger brother is severely autistic and is in hospice......I cannot see him, none of us can

we are not the ones who should feel guilty

I will never forgive Trump or the stupid fucking assholes who helped to install him into the White House, and those who have enabled him: they can all rot in HELL

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
76. I am so sorry for the loss of your mother, pnwest.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:54 PM
Nov 2020

Especially that she had to die alone due to the reality of this horrible situation. It is not at all your fault. The blame lies entirely with Trump and the republicans. They are the reason that this has gotten so out of control and widespread.

Please accept my sincere condolences. May your beloved mother rest in peace.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
77. I'll say a special prayer for her and your family, and
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:04 PM
Nov 2020

the others losing a loved one today because of COVID-19.

I'm so sorry your final farewell had to be virtual.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
78. I hear you, and fully agree with you!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:04 PM
Nov 2020

It didn't need to be this way! Sorry for your loss, and like you I BLAME RUMP and evry fucking RETHUGLICON!!!

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
82. I am so sorry for your loss, pnwest.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 08:51 PM
Nov 2020

No guilt on your shoulders, not for a minute. Please let that go.

Peace to you and yours.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
83. So very sorry for your loss.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:31 AM
Nov 2020

We cant avoid death & disease or loss, but the way our demented fellow Americans have allowed Trump to make everything worse is inexcusable.


I share your grief, frustration, & anger. My dad did last Sunday, not of COVID, but everything was complicated by the Trump Virus raging, like Trump & his minions, out of control.

I am so disgusted that the sociopath isn't losing every state in a landslide.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
85. I have no words.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 03:21 AM
Nov 2020

I can say I'm sorry, but it won't take your pain away. I can tell you not to feel guilty, but you will. Just remember that you have people here that care and please reach out to us if you need anything, even if you just need a friendly ear. I have two, so feel free to talk!

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
92. Heartbreaking
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:25 PM
Nov 2020

Im so sorry for your loss. Omg. And understand your rage. Please dont feel guilt though.

Moms caregiver here & she has Alzheimer's. We had procured an assisted living facility two plus years ago. Always had been her plan to get on the waitlist.

Through fate I came to work contractually in another state, but was able to move into a house I own. Luck there.
Then suddenly my mom declared she wanted to come stay, long term. I was extremely happy. While i know it's not a long term solution, I'm relieved every minute she is not isolated inside an assisted facility.

But that WAS not our planning, you know? We planned just like you, to find a SAFE place where our family members are cared for by professionals.

My neighbor just experienced what you are now. A best friend runs marketing/community outreach for a catholic home. They just had an outbreak--- she is beside herself.

Trump is an asshole and it's wholly on him. Purgatory for him.


niyad

(113,259 posts)
93. I am so very sorry. Words. Fail in such times, but know that your DU family is here for you as
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

needed.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
94. So sorry for your loss.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 02:15 PM
Nov 2020

Please don't feel guilty. Grief, yes, but guilt is only beating yourself up over a situation for which you had very little/no control. Wishing you peace in the loving memories of your mother.



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