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R.I.P. America (Original Post) packman Oct 2019 OP
And that pretty much sums it up. Funtatlaguy Oct 2019 #1
That statement... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #2
"critical thinking," I agree there is lack of this in our society. Hotler Oct 2019 #3
+1 c-rational Oct 2019 #5
excellent post Skittles Oct 2019 #6
Our college was a leader in a national critical thinking across the curriculum push in the 90s. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2019 #7
Let's hope not. If only if there are enough true American Patriots in our Congress. Fla Dem Oct 2019 #4

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. That statement...
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:12 AM
Oct 2019

is probably the most important, underlying aspect of where we are now, above and beyond the results that stand out so glaringly and the demise that it is fomenting. Jefferson was absolutely correct.

I am not talking just about higher education either, (which is valuable) but a real, demonstrable failure to teach children HOW to think, not just what. A graduated path of just basic critical thinking, reason and logic is vital. It is just as important as the other basic tools we give children and put more weight on. It has been more about contents over process.

Of course, child development indicates stages where children can grasp reason and logic, but a good education system would build a gradual foundation and then emphasize it more in High School. It should not be a matter of taking certain classes in college alone.

Compulsory education without an emphasis on clear and sound thinking is more of a preparation for menial work and a means to fit children into a curve and a mold. I contemplate what would be the reason for neglecting something so obvious and a few things come to mind.

When you emphasize test scores, rote memorization, and the rest, you are programming minds, not teaching the mind to program itself, so to speak.

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
3. "critical thinking," I agree there is lack of this in our society.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 11:57 AM
Oct 2019

I always thought I had good critical thinking and reasoning skills until I went to college. I didn't go until I was 35yrs., my critical thinking light went off in 1st yr. college English. I had a hard ass professor and he didn't fuck around. His job was to teach us better thinking and writing skills and not High school grammar and punctuation. He gave us really tough reading and writing assignments. Those assignments changed the whole way I read, comprehend and form my thoughts when I write.

The take away is I look back now and to this day that professor, that single class was what turned my critical thinking light from a 100watts to a floodlight. I remember it as clear as day. I often think about how college was one of the most rewarding things I have ever done. I grew in many ways as a person.



Gidney N Cloyd

(19,824 posts)
7. Our college was a leader in a national critical thinking across the curriculum push in the 90s.
Mon Oct 14, 2019, 07:03 PM
Oct 2019

Educators were really taking it seriously for awhile. I'm not sure what triggered it, maybe a Reagan fallout thing. I think when the grant money dried up, the broader interest largely dried up with it for some reason.

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